He's played two lol.
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NBA Finals 2017 |OT| Same As It Ever Was
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He's played two lol.
LyleLanley
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Ainge needs to max out Kelly.
Wizards are a couple decent players away from being a finals team imo. Wall just needs some more help.
Cracklox
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Ya. The Lakers won't get the memo though and will try their best, still ending up with the second worst record in the league
joking
Or am I...
They're not playing the Celtics anymore.
People make a big deal about Durant scoring but he's made them a much better team defensively.
Draymond and Klay also got better at defense compared to last year.
Everybody on the Cavs, other than Lebron, is underperforming. It's not a coincidence.
Haha no worries, all good.
BadAss2961
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As a guy who likes to see LeBron lose, i'm like Bison whenever I check the score in the 4th.
CassidyIzABeast
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Lebron would gladly sacrifice Dan Gilbert to add a Klay Thompson quality player to the Cavs roster.
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DataStream
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I never would have put money on KD joining this year knowing the upcoming negotiation of Stephs contract. I don't think you uproot your life for a single championship. That's why I really don't think either of them leaving (nor Green or Klay really) is likely. This group has goals beyond a single year.
King of Oklohoma is polishing the pedestal his mvp trophy will go on, wondering if he can trademark "Mr. Triple Double." And that's why KD was right to leave.
friskykillface
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CP3 can still score before him in the finals
Celtics ready to rule the East with Hayward
LyleLanley
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They're not leaving but the discussion was if one of them has to go. In this theoretical situation, if KD or Steph leave, they're not going to have the cap room to replace either guy with anything special.
Stabby McSter
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CP3 has a better chance of scoring a point in the finals at this point
edit: aw my original joke has been already said
Peter Ian Staker
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They are 2 decent players away from getting swept in the ECF.
So exactly like almost every other team in the east play-offs.
DataStream
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I hear you, I just think it is not outlandish to entertain that people would take a pay cut to replace either of these guys. Especially if they swept.
(Fully admit I know nothing of NBA bylaws in this regard).
beat
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What. The Warriors are playing really good defense. That's a huge part of why they're​ currently sitting on the record point differential for a playoffs.
No way the Cavs can play small and expect to keep the Warriors under 120. If I'm Cleveland, my adjustment is starting Shumpert in Smith's spot and have him guard Durant. Put LeBron back on Green and put all their defensive focus into slowing down Curry, Green and Thompson. Durant will go off on Shumpert but he's the Cavs second best option on him and you have to give up something. Thompson needs to make a bigger impact because they need to play him more so they have at least some rim protection most of the game.
MetalFearSolid
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There series with the rockets was ok too.
yeah that was a really fun series, watching them go back and forth every fourth quarter
Not getting swept when Wall is playing this good in his prime.
Just needs a bit more help otherwise they burn out with no help from bench. A few more decent players could easily compete with the Cavs.
Basketball is fun?
FrenchMovieTheme
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I can't remember a year as bad as this. It has to be the worst ever
It was ok. Then they played the GSWs and Kawhi gets taken out.
You can re-sign your own players if you're over the cap. They wouldn't be able to sign a top free agent as they'd be over the cap.
Lionel Richie
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What a fucking fantastic game, major respect to the Cavs for playing solid defense at times on this one. At times. JR needs to be benched and maybe never come back, problem is Iman might even be worse. I don't envy Lue right now.
Also, hot taking here, but maybe the questions about Lebron's workload had some merit? Regardless of how hard he tried in the first half, there's 0 reason why he should be gassed like 2 minutes into the third quarter. Warriors just ran circles around them in the second half, it was madness.
Also, hot taking here, but maybe the questions about Lebron's workload had some merit? Regardless of how hard he tried in the first half, there's 0 reason why he should be gassed like 2 minutes into the third quarter. Warriors just ran circles around them in the second half, it was madness.
Cavs did well defensively as well, those turn overs weren't Steph throwing the ball out of bounds behind his back, most weren't anyway.
I wonder if 2 games is enough time for Korver and Deron to settle down, I don't know what JR's been doing all year so who knows if he gets it together. Point being, the Cavs are gonna shoot well at some point. GSW haven't covered it exceptionally well, in fact they got a lot of open looks both games, the role players just haven't made them.
LyleLanley
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Fine, this is now my offseason thread.
https://streamable.com/oj6pc - Chris Mannix explaining to Cowherd why he's an idiot and why the C's should take Fultz.
Related to this, Fultz is meeting with the C's management and working out/undergoing a physical over Monday and Tueaday according to Woj.
https://streamable.com/oj6pc - Chris Mannix explaining to Cowherd why he's an idiot and why the C's should take Fultz.
Related to this, Fultz is meeting with the C's management and working out/undergoing a physical over Monday and Tueaday according to Woj.
Lionel Richie
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Is Lauri Legend going to be denied?
You know that we have an offseason thread, right
LyleLanley
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Wait what?
KD isn't doing anything we didn't think he could do on a team that was 73-9 last year.
RareFantasy64
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Warriors fans, congratulations on having a dynasty-level team. I didn't want Lebron to go out with 3 rings but it is what it is. You built a nearly peerless team before KD and your organization deserves props and it will be fun to see how long the GSW dynasty lasts and what team (s) rises and starts to pick away at it in the coming seasons
Peter Ian Staker
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You are talking about those decent players as if their front office is going conjure them up through magic.
If anything regular season was the only worthy part of this year. It was the play-offs that mostly sucked ass.
LyleLanley
Banned
I gotta stop drinking.
When there is more than two competitive teams.
Every single series with a major player has had a stupid fucking injury.
Once Leonard went out, I stopped watching. Once I saw golden state blowout Cleveland while not even playing good.....I now only check scores on my phone. It's not worth watching
Which actually means the regular season is more fun than the playoffs lol
Whew not even close
higgsboson1997
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Curry.
He's been the better player in the playoffs as a whole and has been more valuable than KD for the Warriors throughout the season.
Steph on / KD off — 1,226 MIN, 120.1 ORTG / 103.8 DRTG, Net +16.3
KD on / Steph off — 579 MIN, 110 ORTG / 106.9 DRTG, Net +3.1
Steph on, KD / Draymond off — 229 MIN, 120.5 ORTG / 105.7 DRTG, Net +14.8
KD on, Steph / Draymond off — 453 MIN, 111.4 ORTG / 108.9 DRTG, Net +2.5
^This, along with a higher RAPM and a higher +/-.
Plus, the Warriors are Curry's team. GSW fans would throw a riot if Curry was let go for KD. KD may not even be the 3rd most loved player amongst Warriors fans, while Steph is an idol for almost everyone in the Bay Area.
the scary part about the wiz is that they had one of the best starting 5s with beal and porter being only 23 and 24 yrs old, respectively.
if beal and porter take that next leap and oubre and a few of the young bench pieces break out (looking at you sheldon mac and satoransky), they can compete. i don't have too much faith we can get anyone in the free agency with our gm but we do have an mle that should be used on a two way guard. the major problem with the bench was we had the worst replacement point guards in the whole damn entire league. letting sessions walk was a big mistake
but fuck it, these finals have been demoralizing.
friskykillface
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Might as well go out guns blazing at the start of game 3
Every shoot should be 3's
Crowd will be hyped
But then again, Celtics came back from 21 down in Cleveland
Were up by 10+ in the 3rd quarter
Their roster is shit
I hope the Warriors don't play shook
Every shoot should be 3's
Crowd will be hyped
But then again, Celtics came back from 21 down in Cleveland
Were up by 10+ in the 3rd quarter
Their roster is shit
I hope the Warriors don't play shook
The Cavs had an easier road to the finals being the 2 seed. Bulls with Rondo & Wizards are better than the Pacers & Raptors.
kaiju
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Still too early on dynasty-level talk. The team has been hot the last couple of years, and this 2017 team is the best we've seen, but they still have to close out the series and have a long way to go before anyone calls GSW a dynasty. If they would have closed it out last year they'd be closer to that talk, but we all know what happened, a 3-1 Finals choke.
ryutaro's mama
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Preach!
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