Refs called a bad game on both sides for fucks sake
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NBA Finals 2017 |OT| Same As It Ever Was
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Syphon Filter
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stop with the lame excuses, cavs played really hard from the jump compared to any other game. even in game 3 they had a chance.
WhiskerFrisker
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One of my first posts in this thread was "Zaza is a fucking bum.." I stand by it.
BeautifulMemory
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Even after two years the warriors still have trouble when the Cavs get physical, and their offense stops. Where the Cavs is attack and attack even if it comes off iso. Curry can't the passive again.
But again, the refs don't help. I still don't understand how you can grab and hold players moving.
But again, the refs don't help. I still don't understand how you can grab and hold players moving.
BlackNMild2k1
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Refs fucked the game right from the start. Most of the fouls they called weren't shooting fouls, but got all the starters in foul trouble so they either had to lay off or ride the bench.
just cause the Refs made some adjustment calls for the dubs that ended being shooting fouls, doesn't mean they didn't completely fuck this game up with their blatant biased foul calls.
what were the total fouls called for/against each side?
what kinda fouls were being called against one team, but not the other?
How was Steph absolutely abused almost the entire time he was on the floor, but not a single foul was called for it, but the minute someone bumps into a Cav... :whistles:?
I just want a fair called game. The Refs should never be the focus of the game, and that's what happened in this one from the beginning all the way to the end.
I'm not taking anything away from the Lights out shooting from the Cavs, as they played an amazing offensive game, but the Refs really sucked the enjoyment of a good game away from this one.
Cavs may have legitimately beat the Dubs shooting like they were tonight, but had the Refs just called it straight, it might have been a closer and more enjoyable game to watch, win or lose.
Refs looked like they were stretching for a game 5, and then covering a spread or whatever. striped shirts were absolute shit tonight.
MetalFearSolid
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Welp when Mike is coaching, Cavs are winning.
MegaManTrigger
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Cavs played hard, I'm not even a Warriors fan but you'd have to be incredibly dense to not realize that the refs gifted the Cavs the lead.
The sad thing is that I actually think the Cavs would've won this without the refball.
Immaculate
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we gonna ignore KDs? We gonna ignore Draymond's literal flagrant?
Randolph Freelander
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LeBron's player option is after next year. No pay cuts for the Land.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Nothing was worse than that back court call. Tim Legler looked like he was about to have his head explode when he described how impossible it is to blow that call in a finals game.
Hmmm lets see
Warriors attempted 5 more FT
Other than the obvious Kyrie backcourt violation
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Reassigned the tech on green
Zaza punched Shumps dick
KD got a shooting foul assigned to a flagrant by complaining
Dray fell on TT after Livingston committed a foul
oh and LeBron got hit in the face by Iggy at the end but didn't complain
GTFO officiating was bad on both ends
But down the stretch it benefited ONE team and it wasn't the Cavs
Warriors attempted 5 more FT
Other than the obvious Kyrie backcourt violation
refs
Reassigned the tech on green
Zaza punched Shumps dick
KD got a shooting foul assigned to a flagrant by complaining
Dray fell on TT after Livingston committed a foul
oh and LeBron got hit in the face by Iggy at the end but didn't complain
GTFO officiating was bad on both ends
But down the stretch it benefited ONE team and it wasn't the Cavs
Bam Bam Baklava
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MegaManTrigger
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You mean where Kyrie and JR were knocking down insane ass 3's?
Reffing completely changed after that first quarter
Yoshimitsu126
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David West and Livingston have been the GSW best role players. Consistent and quality.
Zaza has been consistently bad.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Syphon Filter
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Cavs had a chance in game 3 without that shooting percentage...
Y'all are hilarious. We've all seen how refs can influence games right from the jump. They did it against us in game six last year in the ECF and they did it again tonight. They call the game one way from the jump to give one team (Cleveland) an edge and then they even it out later when it's out of hand already.
This is NBA fucking officiating 101. Sure they missed calls on the Dubs too, but that's because the refs are horrible period. This is an entire different discussion where THE WAY they call the game has a drastic effect on the outcome. Not to take anything away from the Cavs, because they balled their asses off tonight and deserved the win, but they don't set a fucking NBA finals record without help from the refs. Game 4 at home in an elimination game, you have to be blind to see that they didn't get that home-cooking.
This is NBA fucking officiating 101. Sure they missed calls on the Dubs too, but that's because the refs are horrible period. This is an entire different discussion where THE WAY they call the game has a drastic effect on the outcome. Not to take anything away from the Cavs, because they balled their asses off tonight and deserved the win, but they don't set a fucking NBA finals record without help from the refs. Game 4 at home in an elimination game, you have to be blind to see that they didn't get that home-cooking.
Cracklox
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Not making lame excuses. Just reminiscing a bit.
Anyway, if they're relying on having to score 130+ a game to win for the next 3 games, with 2 on the road, I don't like they're chances. I already didn't like they're chances coming from 3 nothing down against arguably one of the best teams ever, but here we are.
And agree on game 3 as well. They played just as well, particularly in all but the last few minutes of the second half
He's just sooooo clumsy
MegaManTrigger
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That Raptors - Cavs series was absolute bullshit. Hell, I got flashbacks of that and Lakers/Kings amongst other series when watching this game. It's an utter embarrassment. I complain about refs in other sports but I'm grateful that they aren't classless trash sellouts like NBA refs are.
It's easy to knock down those 3s when you get 22 FTAs and at least a foul called on almost all of the Warriors' starters.
I'm already over the ref game 4 situation. It seemed deliberate to me in that 1st quarter but so be it. Cavs still probably would have won with the way they historically made threes. It's only one game. Now if half the team is in foul trouble come game 5 I'm gonna lose my shit.
BadAss2961
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Of course Cavs win the chippy refball game. lol
Warriors lost their cool tonight though. Defense should be better home. The key has always been containing Kyrie. They let him go off these last couple games and are lucky they stole game 3.
Warriors lost their cool tonight though. Defense should be better home. The key has always been containing Kyrie. They let him go off these last couple games and are lucky they stole game 3.
WhiskerFrisker
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Don't take his posts seriously.
That's where I'm at. Complaining doesn't change what happened. Besides, I saw the Cavs torch the Warriors.
LyleLanley
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I was too hungover to watch the game but... We Did It.
Get out, what have you even contributed?
I'm not a troll
everything I posted is valid, say what you want 22FT in the first quarter doesn't change shit against a team like GS
Cavs still ended up with 5 less FT, everyone trying to say 1 quarter let alone the first affected the outcome of the game is crazy. This is the same team that has come back from two 20+ deficits this playoffs
PeterLegend
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Cavs were ridiculously hot from 3, Kyrie turns into GOAT scorer mode is scary.
Dubs will have nightmares if they cant close out in 5.
Dubs will have nightmares if they cant close out in 5.
Randolph Freelander
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Excellent game from Rondo and Big Baby Davis.
Lol how do you automatically assume it benefited the Cavs and not the Warriors who at that point are chasing the Cavs?
As usual whenever a LeBron lead team wins anything, in this case a single game, it's a vast conspiracy.
The series is over the Warriors win the championship already. Give Cavs credit for this 1 game and get over yourselves.
LyleLanley
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Wow, Doc did it again!
WhiskerFrisker
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If the Cavs had gotten zero free throw attempts the entire game...this game would have only gone to overtime. And 4 of the 5 most dubious calls (or non-calls) benefitted the Dubs. Like, I know some of you only started watching basketball two years ago and losing is hard, but this thread is beyond embarrassing.
DontTouchMe
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It sucks that they didn't sweep. It would have been cool to see.
darkwing-buck
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Can't wait for the Celtics vs Lakers series right after.
honestly the officiating only blatantly favored the warriors in the first quarter. it was still bad all game and kind of a shit show at times but for both teams. and even still the warriors had a lot of opportunities to cut it to single digits late and only have themselves to blame for the loss.
beat
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Basically this.
If Curry can be held off-ball without consequence but Kyrie can't, then Kyrie goes off and Curry doesn't.
I think you mean the Cavs? Anyways, if the Dubs were in foul trouble early that sets the tone for how physical they can be with their defense. Which would still be less consequential if the refs called things the same on both ends.
RedAssedApe
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that first quarter was dumb as hell. but since it was in the 1st and not 4th quarter it was ok. gave them time to give makeup fts to kd in the second half lol
Didn't Curry get 10FT by himself in one quarter game 1 of this series?
I'm not saying it played no role, I'm saying it's not as big of a factor some of you are making it out to be. And did we watch the same game, because last I saw the Warriors did not back down on defense at all. Officiating was bad on both ends and clearly benefited Warriors second half
I have no idea why some of you guys are going to greater lengths to discredit this Cavs win than the Warriors own head coach
friskykillface
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Idk why.
But this game 5 feels like last year's game 5, and the game 6 from Rockets-Clippers 2 years ago. If any game is heavily tilted toward the Warriors winning, it's this one. Otherwise, if Cavs get past it, I'm gonna have to recalibrate.
But this game 5 feels like last year's game 5, and the game 6 from Rockets-Clippers 2 years ago. If any game is heavily tilted toward the Warriors winning, it's this one. Otherwise, if Cavs get past it, I'm gonna have to recalibrate.
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