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NBA Offseason 2017 |OT| Only Big Ballers Allowed *please pay $495 to be a Big Baller
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Lazy vs Crazy
Member
Baseball doesn't have a salary cap so I'd give it to them.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
How is this player friendly? Dude left 10 million dollars on the table so Lacob could pay less money to the league. Its like the complete opposite of player friendly. NBAPA is going to be pissed but not really much they can do
Side story about Durant: If Andre Iguodala had left, I'm told Durant was going to give even more than this back to make room for Rudy Gay.
KD going full NBAPA super villain.
KD going full NBAPA super villain.
It's arguably hurt players in terms of their contracts, as now the top stars are greatly underpaid for what they do for their organizations
Duxxy3
Member
1: It's all guaranteed money. NFL players get screwed at every opportunity.
2: There's obviously some under the table money on this deal. Which is shady as hell, but the NBA is pretty loose about that.
friskykillface
Banned
KD has Nike money too, he wants rings
Get those rings KD
Get those rings KD
Roland_Gunner
Member
Baseball players have so much leverage that teams were signing guys to longer deals before they even made it to the majors. Jon Singleton got $10M guaranteed and then was a complete bust. Hard to top that.
Chauncey ended the Kobe-Shaq era. They called him the Supa-Team Slayer. He would've helped LeBron end the Warrior's era. Y Blackghost, y u do dis.
beat
Member
This is crazy. If Iguodala had left, if I'm KD I'm definitely going for the $31.8 M option. The Warriors had Iggy's Bird rights. The only way he would have left a great situation is if the Warriors didn't offer him enough, in which case KD shouldn't reward their cheapness.
A former CBA had the players taking 57% of basketball related revenue. It's down to 50% now (or 51? Not sure.) No good reason for that besides that the owners had the power to force it.
They would struggle some because they don't have any real frontline talent outside of Gobert, not because their roster is so uniquely constructed around Hayward (you don't need to specifically construct a roster around wings with Hayward's particular skillset; that's one of the reasons they're so rare and valuable) . I mean, we're talking about a point guard who can't hit the side of a barn, an injury prone 2 guard who is nowhere close to Avery Bradley, Joe Ingles on a bad contract, Joe Johnson in a wheelchair, Boris Diaw in a wheelchair, a power forward coming off knee surgery who regressed this year and is probably gone next year, Rudy, and a lottery bust in Exum. Maybe Donovan Mitchell hits?
friskykillface
Banned
What time is MVP Brown vs the process
Will it stream online?
Will it stream online?
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
it is on espn3 at least
How can you possibly make the case that the Jazz have no frontcourt talent when they are so superior to Boston in that area. And again I'm talking right now, not in 3 years.
Gobert > Horford
Favors > Olynyk/Jerebko
Ingles/Johnson/Hood > Crowder/Brown/Tatum
I already stated the Celtics backcourt is better, but their entire backcourt might be gone next year.
I still think they didn't need Iggy for that price.
Not that gay would be an upgrade. Actually I haven't seen him play in forever...
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
Ainge in the stands at the summer league game. Watch for him to get up for a phone call for the Hayward news.
He can't shoot at all. He's a good defender with on ball skills but has yet to figure out how to not kill his team when he's playing off the ball.
"frontline" not "frontcourt"
So, Andre Roberson?
BlackGhost
Banned
I want us to hire David Griffin.
He good
Oh so by frontline you mean star talent? If that's what you're arguing, the Celtics don't fare any better. They have a one way star in Isaiah Thomas and that's it. Gobert is better because he is not only a dominant defensive player but a very good offensive player as well. If there is another Celtic that is a star, I don't know who that would be.
If by frontline you mean starters, Utah would still have the edge 3 to 2, Boston would win the backcourt spots, Utah the frontcourt.
Caddywompus
Member
Arguing between whether Utah or Boston is better situation from a basketball stand point seems silly. Utah is in the toughest division in the NBA in an even tougher conference. Boston is a Lebron injury away from skipping to the finals. Odds of finding success in the East are much greater on the previous one seed that they are fighting for a playoff spot in the West.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Summer league is some ugly basketball.
If Andre Robertson could run a pick a roll and also happened to be 3 inches shorter, yes.
Turn on the jaylen brown show
Vault Dweller 111
Member
I made that post when he got his ass blocked and stripped.
Why were people drooling over him three years ago?
Cornbread78
Member
You gotta see the post move. Absolutely nasty. His footwork is awesome.
I thought it was strange at the time. Boston offered like 4 first round picks to Charlotte to get him. Ainge would look like an idiot if the Hornets had accepted.
Maybe teams thought his jumpshot was fixable and he could become a primary ball handler as well as an elite defender.
He looks alright. Pretty clunky.
The goal for teams isn't to make the conference finals or the NBA Finals, it's to actually win the whole thing. Just because a team in the East can make it to the conference finals rather easily, does not mean they are capable of beating not 1, but 2 elite teams to win the title. If Hayward thinks Utah is more capable of beating elite teams 4 out of 7, it doesn't matter that he may have to beat 3 elite teams as opposed to 2.
johancruijff
Banned
Potapenko vibes from Zizic, i like it
Lionel Richie
Member
Jaylen is clearly too good for summer league.
i3allistic
Member
Been telling peeps Jaylen can play....watched him at Cal, Boston just need to give him more regular playing time during regular season ....
CassidyIzABeast
Member
He's got everything you'd want except for the shooting.
GSW aren't my team, but I enjoy watching greatness. Let the dynasty roll.
Although I'm a bit disappointed we won't see Steph Curry continue his MVP trajectory since he has to share the leading role.
I'm worried Wardell may never get a Finals MVP
Hyperactivity
Banned
There's been new management that had come in between the Howard signing/potential and then canceled Millsap trade and the loss of Millsap in FA, and the two sides likely had different views on where to go.
That being said, even though giving Millsap another suitor would have raised the price some, for that little, they should have seriously considered bidding on him
Caddywompus
Member
You don't stay in Utah thinking this team has a chance at a title, you stay because you are comfortable and don't want to risk change.
If the goal is to win in all, the road of least resistance is the one to take. You can't win a title if you can't even make the finals. Anything can happen in 7 games, we've seen recent underdogs in Dallas and Cleveland defy the odds.
There is much more potential to be apart of something great in Boston than there is to remain content with Utah.