Wade was never leaving, Riley wouldn't let that happen.
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NBA Offseason |OT| "It's a complete shit move, but we're stuck with it now"
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Wade was never leaving, Riley wouldn't let that happen.
Yeah but Wade isnt having that $10m a year bullshit either.
People are highly overrating Al Horford. Maybe winning a playoff round isn't significantly better. He's good player not a great player. As a singular addition he not a game changer. Will I take him. Sure. Will I be angry we don't get him. Not really.
For sure, but Riles was probably waiting on Durant situation
LyleLanley
Banned
NFL writers are going crazy.
NFL writers are going crazy.
It's pretty hilarious to see.
It's understandable. Football is the sport you'd expect players to make the most money from if you just got a quick explanation of the 2 sports, considering it has the most risk involved. But in the NBA scrubs and old players get ridiculous contracts, while nfl players can't even get guaranteed contracts.
NFL writers are going crazy.
LyleLanley
Banned
But the NBA contracts aren't actually ridiculous, they just seem huge because we're not used to the new salary cap. Saying shit like is Conley going to be 5X as good next year shows a clear misunderstanding of how the salary cap and, I guess, economics in general works. NFL players and reporters should be more upset with the NFLPA for not getting better deals for NFL players.
Vestal
Junior Member
double or triple the amount of football games and reduce the size of the teams and you'll likely get somewhere close to basketball contracts
LyleLanley
Banned
There's that too, the NFL has double the revenue but four times the amount of players. Because of that and the idea of max contracts lower tier NBA players are going to get paid a lot more.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Tell NFL players to get a union worth a darn.
This too. I'm not sure if I even interpreted that guys tweets right, but was just guessing as to what he was alluding to.
LyleLanley
Banned
Mother fuckers!
So, if a team doesn't hit the cap floor, they split all the remaining money among their signed players for the year, right?
Does that affect the salaries or cap for the following year? Or is it basically treated as a bonus?
Because I feel like a lot of teams might as well ride this thing out while everybody else overpays, and swoop in for some great signings next offseason.
Does that affect the salaries or cap for the following year? Or is it basically treated as a bonus?
Because I feel like a lot of teams might as well ride this thing out while everybody else overpays, and swoop in for some great signings next offseason.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
The problem is he's now in his 30s. So do you really want to pay a 35yo Horford max cash in a few years?
I also still don't see how the fuck the roster works.
So the starting 5 would be who again? Dennis, Baze, Horford, Howard, and Millsap?
Then what relegate Korver to the bench?
LyleLanley
Banned
I think Anderson could work well with Stevens but I want no part of a long expensive contract for him.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I'd be surprised if he didn't end up in Houston honestly. They've struck out on every single FA and god knows D'Antoni would sign up for a PF who can shoot the 3 and plays some questionable defense.
Agreed but they could use his rim protection.
LyleLanley
Banned
Woj is saying the hawks are still shopping Millsap around in case they can get a deal for Horford worked out.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Not to mention the average NFL career length is 3 years and they can't even get guaranteed contracts for their players.
Wonder if this NBA FA is a wakeup call to the NFLPA.
Also says that Hawks and Horford are still having contract problems.
They have no leverage. Teams are not giving up much for a rental and knowing that ATL is stuck.
LyleLanley
Banned
Millsap is pretty good, some team will be more than happy to take him into their cap space for a pick.
jordan0386
Member
Blind leading the blind.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Don't think the Hawks would have any issues getting a 1st rd for Millsap.
Honestly the fact they aren't offering Horford the max makes me think they just want him to walk but are trying to look like they didn't force him to leave at the same time.
Honestly the fact they aren't offering Horford the max makes me think they just want him to walk but are trying to look like they didn't force him to leave at the same time.
LyleLanley
Banned
The Pistons seems like such a good fit for him that I'm surprised he turned them down already.
Oh wow that's right. Is the NFL the only sport without guaranteed contracts?
Local Pistons beat writers have been mentioning Pistons balked at going full 4 year max and wanted him to go a bit under max, that they want to keep some flexibility to pay up for KCP next summer who will require a massive contract.
So a lottery pick 2 other 1st round picks and some players can't get you Jimmy Butler but people are handing out 1st rounders for 1 year rentals?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The team that just gave Jon Leuer 4/42 didn't want to pay Al Horford? Okay
LyleLanley
Banned
I would trade a 1st for Millsap in a second and the C's should actually consider doing it.
4 years 42 million is a hell of a lot less than 113 mil 4 years. They are probably done with free agency now this summer. Next summer is all about giving KCP the big contract, probably max or near max for him.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The Bulls were not trading Jimmy Butler for the 5th overall pick and whatever the hell Minnesota was offering. I don't think people realize how terrible Wiggins was last year at shooting the basketball. Rubio and some other garbage picks? Why would Chicago do that? Or some crappy Boston picks?
Jimmy Butler is a max level player on a long term contract that is far below what the max is now. If the Bulls gave that up for the garbage Minnesota was offering up then their new GM should have been fired on the spot.
A team thats trying to win a title -right now- would easily trade their 1st rd pick for a guy like Millsap.
illiniguy05
Member
Yep, Butler's contract is spectacular under this new cap.
BadAss2961
Member
TMac's dried up skeleton corpse is probably worth a good 2 years, 30M in this summer.
catpurrcat
Member
Yeah, but the hawks would be reluctant to help such a close east rival, right? Local raps fan would love millsap but i cant see ATL doing the Raps any favors.
Uno Venova
Banned
Hope Courtney Lee comes to NY
catpurrcat
Member
Yup, totally this. And FIT.
Toronto and OKC are perfect examples of how "new" teams can be as dynamic as the legacy crowd. You shape your teams' future - they arent beholden to long retired stars and ancient records. Its cool to be a part of something new.
(Plus Toronto is an insanely great place for a family).
MetalFearSolid
Banned
This is such a Kings move. So much for ball movement.
Better than signing Waiters to a Deng or Evan Turner contract.
I like the Deng pickup. This move gives us a respected vet in the locker room that plays defense and can fit what Luke wants to do.
Afflalo hasn't been a good basketball player the past two seasons.
Afflalo hasn't been a good basketball player the past two seasons.