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NBA Offseason |OT| "It's a complete shit move, but we're stuck with it now"
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Cornbread78
Member
#DEAD, lol
I'm not a big fan of either trade right now.... However, we can only draft SOO many guys, so as long as they keep the Brooklyn pick, I'd let it go..
They need a 2/3 combo wing that can shoot and they need a big men to pair up with Horford. I'm not really sure how they get either, unless they really do plan on giving Oly big minutes this year..
Ninja Scooter
Member
Spoiler: Rudy Gay is a terrible shooter
Crowder is no Steph Curry himself but he's better defensively, more versatile and a better facilitator. He's a much better fit for what the Celtics do.
Does anyone know the logistics around trading the 2017 Brooklyn pick, since it's a pick swap rather than outright owning the pick? I've looked into this before and haven't found a good answer. Do they trade their own pick which comes with the swap attached?
Either way, the Celts are not trading Crowder and any pick of value for Gay.
I'm still waiting for something from a national reporter (i.e. Woj) before I get too riled about it.
Either way, the Celts are not trading Crowder and any pick of value for Gay.
I'm still waiting for something from a national reporter (i.e. Woj) before I get too riled about it.
Lol good luck with that
ProvenDeadly
Member
You can have Nick Young for free
Cornbread78
Member
Barkley is on Lebatard's show victim blaming black people and, specifically, Philando Castile right now.
Not like this.
"Never put your I.D. near your gun."
"Most black people I know are killed by black people."
"Where's the outrage when black people kill other black people."
"You're not black, Dan. You can't tell me the outrage is the same."
"The cop probably just got scared and panicked."
Not like this.
"Never put your I.D. near your gun."
"Most black people I know are killed by black people."
"Where's the outrage when black people kill other black people."
"You're not black, Dan. You can't tell me the outrage is the same."
"The cop probably just got scared and panicked."
Uno Venova
Banned
The quality of his analysis on racial issues is even worse than his basketball analysis.
Gully State
Member
Come on Chuck....you know better than this damnit...
ViewtifulJC
Banned
does he tho? If his basketball analysis is this bad, why would he racial politics be any better?
Chuck is an idiot. Harmful stances on social issues and a trash analyst.
Loved him as a player and he's entertaining, but it's best to not think too much whenever he's talking.
thehypocrite
Member
No he doesn't.
Wasn't Ta-Nehisi Coates on today also? What an incredible contrast in one show lol.
He went on to justify racial profiling.
I'm aghast.
Yes, he had Coates on during his second hour. That was great.
Outdoor Miner
Member
Chicago sends:
Butler
Mirotic
Robin Lopez
Draft Pick sweetener
Sacramento sends:
Cousins
Gay
Salary filler
Who says no?
Butler
Mirotic
Robin Lopez
Draft Pick sweetener
Sacramento sends:
Cousins
Gay
Salary filler
Who says no?
UnObtainium17
Member
Not surprising this came out of him..
Someone check me on this but Chuck said almost samee thing about Ferguson incident. It was so asinine it made Kenny even write a open letter for him in a newspaper. Like have you ever said something so dumb your friend got motivated to write a thousand word essay out of it
Cornbread78
Member
No.
Butler, Wade and Rondo need to play together this season just for the pure spectacle of it all...
UnObtainium17
Member
Just as when i thought the lane wouldn't get anymore clogged with defenders with a Wade, butler, Rondo lineup.. Bro comes up with a Wade Gay Rondo backcourt.😂
Edit: Wade, Josh smith, Rudy Gay and Rondo lineup would be amazing.
RedAssedApe
Banned
i love zubac's post game interviews. died a little inside when he got posterized haha
Here we go with somebody bringing up black on black crime, blacks have been fighting against black on black crime for years, but as soon as we stand up and fight for crimes against us its wrong, and we need to worry about black on black crime, Barkley plz
thehypocrite
Member
Man, people need to chill. Let the dude enjoy his off season. I don't want to rag on Green, cause it seems to he was provoked by the dude, but he needs to be able to deescalate these situations.
Ninja Scooter
Member
That's way too much for Chicago to give up. I'm not entirely sure id trade Jimmy for DMC straight up to be honest.
It's probably unfair to ask this of players, but man I wouldn't even go out at 2 AM like that if I was an NBA player. You got so much more to lose than the people around you. Fuck that, just hire a bartender and invite people over to your house.
Gully State
Member
RedAssedApe
Banned
just the fact that it was a slap is funny. hope it was a backhand
seriously though...who recognizes football players?
Exactly. To get arrested because of a slap :lol Dray must have really leaned into it.
thehypocrite
Member
This is true, but they are young guys with lots of money, they have a right to a seemingly "normal" life. But they aren't your average Joe and people will take offense on some things that normally don't warrant that response. Green is a smart player (basketball wise), he will learn from this I hope.
Yeah, just chill in your loft and bring the party to you, in an environment that you can control, would be better for them.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
If the Celtics trade for Blake Griffin I won't watch a single game next season. He's fucking awful. Not sure how I feel about a trade for Okafor.
darkwing-buck
Member
?!? Blake is better then anyone on that list lol, assuming he's healthy and back to form the guy is a top 10 talent.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Wanting Okafor over Blake? My mind is full of fuck.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
this trolling really needs to stop, its corny
There is a chance that Griffin ages poorly once his athleticism declines but... he was the second best player in the 2015 playoffs. Hard to give up on someone that good.
Cornbread78
Member
I just want to know abour Griffin:
A) why he's even availible
B) Can he play D
3) Is he healthy (refer to A)
A) why he's even availible
B) Can he play D
3) Is he healthy (refer to A)
darkwing-buck
Member
Valid concerns, but I wouldn't be surprised Doc does a boneheaded move.
Just get a bodyguard or bodyguards
If Im the celtics, Im way more interested in Noel then Okafor unless the future contract is something they really dont want to pay
Okafor or Blake dont do anything to solve their roster issues. They still need a dominant defensive big or a scorer on their roster. Blake can't shoot the ball outside and Okafor's defense was pretty bad (but would imrpove dramatically on the celtics, dont purely listen to the advanced stats on Okafor in terms of his rebounding and his defense) Okafor can also not shoot outside (yet, although his midrange game could be developing)
I want Simmons and okafor on the our all the time though. Okafors offense went to elite levels with a player who could go inside and pass, Simmons does everything Ish did but at 6'10" and with better court vision and a bigger want to share the ball. We need to put scorers around simmons, and unfortunately, while Noel's defense is legit great, his offensive deficiencies just wouldnt work well in that system.
Okafor or Blake dont do anything to solve their roster issues. They still need a dominant defensive big or a scorer on their roster. Blake can't shoot the ball outside and Okafor's defense was pretty bad (but would imrpove dramatically on the celtics, dont purely listen to the advanced stats on Okafor in terms of his rebounding and his defense) Okafor can also not shoot outside (yet, although his midrange game could be developing)
I want Simmons and okafor on the our all the time though. Okafors offense went to elite levels with a player who could go inside and pass, Simmons does everything Ish did but at 6'10" and with better court vision and a bigger want to share the ball. We need to put scorers around simmons, and unfortunately, while Noel's defense is legit great, his offensive deficiencies just wouldnt work well in that system.
To me, their only 'roster issue', if they have one, is a lack of top-flight talent. Blake certainly fits that bill. I think the need for a defensive big is far overstated, they were 5th in the NBA in defensive efficiency (tied with GS) and Horford is only an upgrade on the people that were seeing major minutes before. Blake is absolutely a scorer - not sure where you're getting that from - and he's a much improved outside shooter.
Honestly, what I love about the way the Celtics have built their roster is they're flexible enough to take in basically any guy and be able to maximize him, depending on outgoing pieces. The hard part is getting that guy.
I don't see how anybody could think this. His rebounding has declined year over year since his rookie season, outside of last season, which saw a slight bump, but was still less than double digits.
Never developed a solid jump shot for the pick and roll game, still has no touch. Relies too much on top flight athleticism and pin point passing from cp3, his offense is far more dependent on great setups than creating it himself. Don't know about his defense tbh.
His durability is a very real concern. He has had multiple serious knee injuries, from the fractured kneecap, so meniscus tears in both knees, cartilage damage, etc. He will not age well, and his skill game is not refined whatsoever to adapt. On top of that a deep playoff run is unlikely for him as that many miles wears on him.
see above.
He does not fit that bill. Blake is fine as a secondary piece, but he's not a top flight talent. He doesn't do anything at an elite level outside of his insane athleticism. Doesn't block shots, doesn't create much for himself. He's a solid player, but not a superstar IMO.
I would DEFINITELY not trade next years nets pick with how loaded the draft projects to be and I definitely wouldn't include smart. Smart has more upside than both AB0 (overrated) or Crowder who i actually have grown to like. If the celts do settle for Blake, AB0, Crowder, and the '18 nets pick would be disappointing, but best case given the other scenarios. I honestly think that team would be worse. The celtics desperately need shooters and they lose two of their top shooters, and 2 top tier defenders.