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[spyder_ur]

LOL, hyperbole, yeah, maybe a little, however, if you were a Celtics fan, wouldn't that be your worry as well?

I am one, and while it can be frustrating to not land that player, I'd rather not give up the flexibility to try and force a deal.

The piece people often overlook is that the Celtics are good now. There's real present and future value in that.

Ainge with a #1 pick would be hilariously awesome

Honestly, I think Ainge is more comfortable drafting in the late lottery or later. That might be true of a lot of GMs. Bad lottery picks get you fired.

 

[LyleLanley]

Ainge with a #1 pick would be hilariously awesome

The Twitter servers would light on fire.

 

[MetalFearSolid]

Larry Legend doing work

 

[darkside31337]

Honestly, I think Ainge is more comfortable drafting in the late lottery or later. That might be true of a lot of GMs. Bad lottery picks get you fired.

Yeah I do think most GMs would rather have the #2 pick instead of the #1. If you're the guy who takes Oden over Durant even though like 99% of people said they'd rather have Oden before the draft you're gonna get fired. Most GMs dont want the #1 pick because if you whiff you're fucked.

 

[Sandfox]

I am one, and while it can be frustrating to not land that player, I'd rather not give up the flexibility to try and force a deal.

The piece people often overlook is that the Celtics are good now. There's real present and future value in that.



Honestly, I think Ainge is more comfortable drafting in the late lottery or later. That might be true of a lot of GMs. Bad lottery picks get you fired.

Ainge hasn't had all that much success in the draft and he passed on some pretty nice players in favor of guys who ended up being non-factors.

 

[Jarate]

Yeah I do think most GMs would rather have the #2 pick instead of the #1. If you're the guy who takes Oden over Durant even though like 99% of people said they'd rather have Oden before the draft you're gonna get fired. Most GMs dont want the #1 pick because if you whiff you're fucked.

Wat

There's literally no reason to not want the #1 pick. If you are such a pussy that you don't want the ability to draft who you feel is the best guy, then you probably aren't going to ever be an NBA GM

 

[Jarate]

I also think you could easily get Monroe for cheap, and he would be a good fit for the Celtics if they are really really desperate for a big

 

[darkside31337]

Wat

There's literally no reason to not want the #1 pick. If you are such a pussy that you don't want the ability to draft who you feel is the best guy, then you probably aren't going to ever be an NBA GM

The point is if you really don't think theres a difference between Ingram and Simmons you'd be better off with the 2nd pick because you're never going to get 2nd guessed no matter what happens. Which is great for Mitch because he needs all the job security he can get right about now.

 

[Cornbread78]

No way they would trade for Okafor if they got Monroe, that would be the worst defensive front court in the league.

I think the Noel/Monroe pairing would actually be pretty good for the inside-out approach I mentioned. I'm not sure if they really need any of the top players in this draft past the top 2. Could Jamal Murray or Buddy Hield fill a good roll with the Celts?

I am one, and while it can be frustrating to not land that player, I'd rather not give up the flexibility to try and force a deal.

The piece people often overlook is that the Celtics are good now. There's real present and future value in that.

Honestly, I think Ainge is more comfortable drafting in the late lottery or later. That might be true of a lot of GMs. Bad lottery picks get you fired.

They are good, but nowhere near good enough to compete at the top level. They just do not have that 1 player to give the rock to on offense and let him put in work. I will continue to contend, until they get a good wing scorer and a sharpshooter, they will be stuck in this loop. Call it instant gratification, but I'd like to take the core of this group and push forward.

 

[Jarate]

The point is if you really don't think theres a difference between Ingram and Simmons you'd be better off with the 2nd pick because you're never going to get 2nd guessed no matter what happens.

Or maybe you'd rather get the first pisck due to trade value and being able to draft "your guy"

 

[Fjordson]

Keep seeing that the Warriors are trying to move up 11+ spots. Not sure who they'd be targeting or what they could even offer that teams would be interested in.

 

[Bread]

I think the Noel/Monroe pairing would actually be pretty good for the inside-out approach I mentioned. I'm not sure if they really need any of the top players in this draft past the top 2. Could Jamal Murray or Buddy Hield fill a good roll with the Celts?

They can shoot, so obviously that would help out a lot. Hield would add passable defense and great spot up shooting, Murray would add instant offense but bad defense.

I think Hield would be the better fit but I'd rather not take either at 3.

 

[Jarate]

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I like Trevor Ariza and Patrick Beverly for Noel. You're still overpaying for those 2 guys, but that gives us 2 legit starters in positions of need, who are both off ball specialist with Ben Simmons, also they have really good contracts

 

[friskykillface]

Keep seeing that the Warriors are trying to move up 11+ spots. Not sure who they'd be targeting or what they could even offer that teams would be interested in.

Klay for #3

do it cocky warriors owner

 

[LyleLanley]

Ainge hasn't had all that much success in the draft and he passed on some pretty nice players in favor of guys who ended up being non-factors.

I'd say Ainge has done a pretty good job in the draft given where the Celtics picks usually are. Of course if given the opportunity he'd probably want to draft Draymond over Fab Melo or Jimmy Butler over JaJuan Johnson but I'm not going to be too hard on him for that.

 

[spyder_ur]

Ainge hasn't had all that much success in the draft and he passed on some pretty nice players in favor of guys who ended up being non-factors.

You could say this about any GM in the draft. Ainge has not once made a top-5 pick in the draft. Outside of the lottery, since 2004 he's drafted Al Jefferson, Tony Allen, Delonte, Gerald Green, Big Baby, Bradley, and Sullinger. That is plenty of hits for where those picks were made.

He's had two lottery picks and has taken Smart at 6 and Olynyk at 13. I think his record is pretty good - noone's is perfect.

 

[Jarate]

Klay for #3

do it cocky warriors owner

Shit, if Klay is available, I'm trading the #1 overall pick for him.

 

[Cornbread78]

They can shoot, so obviously that would help out a lot. Hield would add passable defense and great spot up shooting, Murray would add instant offense but bad defense.

I think Hield would be the better fit but I'd rather not take either at 3.

Good insight.

I think Middleton, Monroe and Noel would add a pretty damn good dynamic to the team and they would still be VERY young.

 

[Jarate]

I don't see the Bucks trading Middleton away. He's a super tall 3 and D guy. Great defender, and a great shooter. He's honestly worth more then the #3 pick right now IMO. You'd probably need to trade Bradley and #3 for him, which I wouldn't do if I was the Celtics

 

[Cornbread78]

I don't see the Bucks trading Middleton away. He's a super tall 3 and D guy. Great defender, and a great shooter. He's honestly worth more then the #3 pick right now IMO. You'd probably need to trade Bradley and #3 for him, which I wouldn't do if I was the Celtics

I think Smart and Crowder could fill in defensively when needed. Obviously, neither are as good as Bradley, but not a huge drop-off.

 

[LyleLanley]

Nets are going to have about $50M in cap space. This could be fun.

 

[Fjordson]

Klay for #3

do it cocky warriors owner

lol seriously think that sort of trade would be the only thing people would be interested in (or Steph or Dray). Not sure what we could sell other teams to move up that much.

 

[Jarate]

Nets are going to have about $50M in cap space. This could be fun.

Max Barnes and Max Deli

 

[darkside31337]

Nets are going to have about $50M in cap space. This could be fun.

I seriously doubt they do anything stupid like max Barnes. They'll spend as much to get to the floor and thats about it. I'd be surprised if they didnt take contracts teams are looking to dump just to pick up some free picks. Because they'll need them after the mess the last regime dug them in.

 

[Gigglepoo]

Max Barnes and Max Deli

Can you imagine going to a rebuilding team after winning 140 games and a championship in the last two seasons?

 

[LyleLanley]

Max Barnes and Max Deli

Prokhorov has to max Lin.

 

[shwimpy]

anyone know if they start drafting players right at 4pm pst or does espn have an hour or so of pre-draft bullshit?

 

[LyleLanley]

anyone know if they start drafting players right at 4pm pst or does espn have an hour or so of pre-draft bullshit?

I believe the actual draft starts at 7:30 EST / 4:30 PST.

 

[Lambtron]

Trading Rubio for to get out of the Pek contract? Lambtron your boy ain't worth that much according to the team.

I'd be shocked if Thibs is that stupid.

It would be so fucking Timberwolves. But I'd be shocked. Almost as shocked as I'd be if Dunn is ever as good as Rubio.

 

[Jarate]

I take Rubio + Pekovic combo any day of the week. Rubio would be a horrible fit for the Sixers, but Ive always liked him, and you cant beat basically free

 

[Gully State]

lol seriously think that sort of trade would be the only thing people would be interested in (or Steph or Dray). Not sure what we could sell other teams to move up that much.

I really can't think of anyone we'd want in the draft at 3. No one in this class outside of the top 2 scream immediate starter...

 

[Gully State]

Prokhorov has to max Lin.

BrookLin....I've just designed their marketing for the year. I'll take my payment in cash thank you..

 

[OfficerRaichu15]

Cavs gaf who you guys think we will take?

 

[Jarate]

I really can't think of anyone we'd want in the draft at 3. No one in this class outside of the top 2 scream immediate starter...

Dragan Bender purely because his name is awesome bro

 

[Gigglepoo]

NFL Live is picking football players who could play in the NBA...

 

[LyleLanley]

I really can't think of anyone we'd want in the draft at 3. No one in this class outside of the top 2 scream immediate starter...

I can't see a trade working out for the #3 pick but you guys don't need an immediate starter, you could take someone like Bender and slowly groom him into a starter.

 

[Fjordson]

I'm hoping they stay at #30 and get a possible rotation big and just keep going for Durant.

Diamond Stone or Yabusele from France could be interesting.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Cavs gaf who you guys think we will take?

At the moment: nobody. The Cavs do not have a pick.

 

[CopperPuppy]

Cavs gaf who you guys think we will take?

Am I missing some sarcasm here? You guys don't have a pick.

 

[Bread]

If we got Klay for 3 I would run naked down the street

Spoiler

note: i wouldn't actually do that

 

[jbug617]

Danny should do this deal

According to sources, the Bucks and Celtics are still exploring a potential deal that would send Middleton to the Celtics. Middleton, who can also play small forward, is coming off a breakthrough season. He averaged 18.2 points and 3.8 rebounds. He is a top-flight shooter, connecting on 40 percent of his treys last season.

One of the trade scenarios, a source said, is packaging Middleton with veteran center Greg Monroe, whom the Bucks have been seriously shopping. It is known the Celtics have had interest in Monroe for a long time.

In return for Middleton and Monroe, the Bucks could possibly acquire two first-round picks from the Celtics in today’s draft: Nos. 16 and 23, along with another player. Interestingly, the Bucks have worked out a spate of players who are projected to go in the 16 to 23 range, including guard Denzel Valentine of Michigan State, guard Malachi Richardson of Syracuse, guard Dejounte Murray of Washington and power forward Brice Johnson, among others.

https://t.co/6JLLfJIhym

 

[spyder_ur]

I'm hoping they stay at #30 and get a possible rotation big and just keep going for Durant.

Diamond Stone or Yabusele from France could be interesting.

Doesn't it make more sense to either move up or out of the first round entirely, so you avoid the salary and afford some flexibility?

Stone seems like a bad fit for the Dubs - lead feet.

Yabusele is an interesting prospect as a more athletic Jared Dudley-ish stretch 4.

 

[LyleLanley]

Danny should do this deal


https://t.co/6JLLfJIhym

Danny should but the Bucks probably shouldn't.

 

[TheOohChild]

Danny should do this deal


https://t.co/6JLLfJIhym

I am going to go out on a limb here and say the Bucks probably aren't willing to do that

 

[Jarate]

If the Bucks trade Middleton for anything other then #3 + a player, then I have 0 faith in that front office ever being competent.

 

[Cybit]

Danny should do this deal


https://t.co/6JLLfJIhym

Unless that player is Jae Crowder, I think that deal is insane.

That said, I think Boston is desperate for a deal and leaking random things trying to get someone to bite. Think they super overplayed their hand on the Brooklyn pick, and when it didn't drop in top 2, they lost leverage. (Also, Cleveland winning the championship super hosed Boston)

 

[Jarate]

Noel or Okafor for #3 is the most inevitable thing on earth. I think both teams will accept it, angrily and begrudgingly

 

[gutshot]

From the Sixers' Philly.com beat writer:

NEW YORK – There’s a sense in Boston that the Celtics will keep the third overall pick in Thursday night’s NBA draft because it appears they may not be able to negotiate a suitable deal.

If a deal cannot be made, the thinking is that the Celtics will use the pick on Kris Dunn or Jaylen Brown. The Celtics like Brown and would keep him, while it is said to be more likely that they would trade Dunn to another team.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Sixers-may-lose-out-on-Celtics-No-3-pick.html

 

[LyleLanley]

Noel or Okafor for #3 is the most inevitable thing on earth. I think both teams will accept it, angrily and begrudgingly

Noel or Okafor + Saric for 3.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

The Ringer has an article stating that the Cavaliers winning the title was the worst thing to happen to Danny Ainge

https://theringer.com/boston-celtics-danny-ainge-kevin-love-trade-nba-draft-picks-466ec96ade80