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NBA Offseason |OT| "It's a complete shit move, but we're stuck with it now"
- Thread starter Jarate
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July 3rd or 4th
Damn, he's gonna be good too
Gully State
Member
He had a 7'6" wingspan though.
Thanks!
What is this about us adding Derozan and Horford? Are these what is called free agents?
Lakershead22
Member
Lakers have the cap space to sign max free agents, which those two guys are considered to be.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
Gar/Pax make me so mad.
I don't see why you are mad, unless you were one of the LaVine + Dunn for Butler types.
but Rose is a bum and should have been shipped out earlier.
agentofatlas
Member
Mavs got AJ hammons which is a good pick.
Philly and Phoenix really did well at this draft. Can't wait for summer league.
In Philly. Villanova is first.
UND3RxOATH
Neo Member
Kyle Wiltjer to Houston.
Alright. I gotta read up on max free agents cause I don't know what that means. I also wonder how many players a team must have. So much for me to learn.
UND3RxOATH
Neo Member
Max Free Agent = Signed to the most amount of money possible.
LyleLanley
Banned
Yeah they have to be at least number 1.
GravityInsanity
Member
I'm mad they traded Rose and picked up another overseas player in the second round. I forgot to mention they got rid of Thibs who gave them a 255-139 record with five trips to the playoffs with a injured team most of the time. Gar and Pax are the Bulls downfall.
UND3RxOATH
Neo Member
Isaiah Taylor has agreed to a partially guaranteed deal with the Houston Rockets.
XxRampage07xX
Member
I have never heard of his name before. Is he any good?
Face it Tiger..
Banned
ugh.
I totally wanted Portland to take him, cuz you know.. northwest murica.
Why? he has become an average point guard who only will get worse, and his contract is absurd for his output.
unknownstranger
Member
Bleh was hoping he'd go to a more likable team.
RedAssedApe
Banned
dunno if he's gonna be any good but i like this Zubac kid's enthusiasm towards the Laker franchise. hope it translates into him putting in the work.
Randolph Freelander
Member
As Marshall Plumlee's agent, this entire draft was a sham.
Look at my client out here stroking corner threes.
https://youtu.be/tN44rLX13Fs?t=140
Look at my client out here stroking corner threes.
https://youtu.be/tN44rLX13Fs?t=140
Tom Izzo spoke very highly of his defense. Not sure what you are talking about?
Valentine is a really good pick aside form the knee concerns.
👎 really nobody knows. Took an athlete and not a ball player with the first pick and a two Euros to stash overseas. Most people wanted a trade that never happened.
Cornbread78
Member
This ♤.
I'm getting angrier listening to the front office spew all this crap about the big free agents they are going to get... uugghh.
panthapanda
Member
I'd say the Hawks did above average on the draft. Fulfilled needs, got more athletic. Took safe picks. Can't really go wrong with wings. Hopefully they can develop a jumper lol.
friskykillface
Banned
Go home Ainge
The dream of Team T-Rex Arms is dead my friend. But there is still hope for that special edition G I Joe figure.
Duke Basketball posted up a nice little video on Brandon Ingram, which gives some insight into him growing up in Kinston NC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4aG13dR3IQ.
I think Ingram will be Duke's best pro since Grant Hill, hopefully without the ankle issues.
Cornbread78
Member
All these draft grades, lol.
Why does everyone love what the Celtics did outside of Boston?
SI Draft Grades
Fox Sports Draft Grades
[url="http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/06/23/nba-draft-live-tracker-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/86303580/] USA Today Draft Grades[/url]
Why does everyone love what the Celtics did outside of Boston?
SI Draft Grades
Fox Sports Draft Grades
[url="http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/06/23/nba-draft-live-tracker-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/86303580/] USA Today Draft Grades[/url]
Randolph Freelander
Member
I always turn to Bill Simmons for my draft night hot takes on the Celtics. With the #3 pick:
After 16
Later
But by the end of the night, Simmons was talking himself into it... a little.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Addressing no needs is the newest trend going!!! Really I'm kind of stepping away from the ledge. I wouldn't have gutted the team for Butler and that Noel trade was iiaght. The problem is I already know free agency is going to eat a bag of dicks for the Celtics.
I don't agree that they addressed no needs - they spent almost all their picks on frontcourt players, hopefully finishers, and they got longer and more athletic for sure. What they didn't get was shooting - this is a bummer.
Cornbread78
Member
I've calmed down a little bit from my highly agitated feeling last night, but I was butt-hurt like the rest of Celtics nation. I'm glad Danny didn't go all-in on that stupid Butler offer that Chi. put out there. Although, I might have taken the Noel Deal. Maybe they can still work out a Noel/Smart deal that would make sense for both teams.... I'd take the Defense of Noel here over Okafor's offense.... They could still make a trade with the Bucks for Monroe and pair him up with Noel to give them a pretty balanced front court with Oly in there and if the Frenchman somehow made the roster, he is a good stretch player like Oly., however, I'm expecting him to stay over seas for another few years...
Now if they went the Free agent route, I would be comfortable with them picking up Horford, as long as they can also pick up Beal of Parsons. I would rather take the pure shooting of Beal here and Parson's is probably going to resign in Dallas anyhow...
With those moves, it would give Boston a clear #2 roster in the East, but still not enough to take out Lebron and Co.
FA Route:
PG: Thomas/Smart
SG: Beal/Bradley
SF: Brown/Crowder/Turner
PF: Horford/Johnson/Sully
C: Olynak/Johnson/Sully
Via Trades:
PG: Thomas/Rozier
SG: Bradley/Hunter
SF: Brown/Turner
PF:Monroe /Johnson/Oly
C: Noel/Olynak/Johnson
FTW Route:
PG: Thomas/Jackson/Rozier
SG: Beal/Bradley/Hunter
SF: Brown/Turner
PF:Horford /Johnson/Oly
C: Noel/Olynak/Johnson
Cornbread78
Member
We're pretty much on the same page here and the bolded are the most important parts. However, I think they can still get a Noel deal done for Smart or other future picks, which is much better then getting to MORE late 1st rounders like was offered.
I'm just hoping they can entice Beal and Horford to jump into the Boston, which would give them a highly competitive roster. They will still lack star power, but they will be good contenders and could really give CLE fits in the play-offs with their athletic approach.
LyleLanley
Banned
Given that neither Philly nor the Bulls made a deal for the 5th pick I have to assume the offers we thought the Celtics got weren't real. Beyond that I think our draft was ok, Brown seems like a reach but if he's who they thought was the best option then what the fuck do I know?
LyleLanley
Banned
At least we drafted this guard
He can't shoot right?
This makes me feel good.
Cornbread78
Member
At least we drafted this guard
He is the reason why I'm ok with a Smart for Noel Trade that would make sense for both teams...
Pair Noel with Horford and we have something there.
Cool little Story on Jackson:
In a Flash
I like the Pacers' 2nd round pick, besides him being 23 already. He's a point forward. Can't jump but I don't need my backup point to jump.
Cleveland really lucked out with Kay Felder falling into their laps. He is going to be so much better than Dellavedova it isn't even funny. He's smart and can do everything well on offense except dunk.
Speaking of tiny point guards, Phoenix gets an A+ from me. Dragan, Chriss and the best pure point prospect in Tyler Ulis. They have to trade a few of their starters to make room for those guys, but it's Phoenix so they might actually try to play with 3 point guards and two stretch bigs at the same time.
As for Boston, lol. I almost feel bad for Celts fans.
Cleveland really lucked out with Kay Felder falling into their laps. He is going to be so much better than Dellavedova it isn't even funny. He's smart and can do everything well on offense except dunk.
Speaking of tiny point guards, Phoenix gets an A+ from me. Dragan, Chriss and the best pure point prospect in Tyler Ulis. They have to trade a few of their starters to make room for those guys, but it's Phoenix so they might actually try to play with 3 point guards and two stretch bigs at the same time.
As for Boston, lol. I almost feel bad for Celts fans.
Fairly pleased with the Grizzlies picks. Even if picking Baldwin makes me a little apprehensive about our chances at resigning Conley, we got a pretty decent perimeter shooter. On top of that, I think Deyonta Davis is a steal at 31. We got some youth in this draft, something we desperately needed, even if it was kinda risky.
LyleLanley
Banned
Fellow Celtics fans, I present the 2017 mock draft.
LyleLanley
Banned
Simmons is your PG.
Hm I'll take one of each please.
Nets I swear if you fuck this up for us I will go to Brooklyn and piss on the floor of your bathroom and I won't even feel bad about it!
LyleLanley
Banned
Georgios PapaJohn's dad is apparently Twitters biggest hater of The Dragan.
Georgios PapaJohn's dad is apparently Twitters biggest hater of The Dragan.
This is great, I'm down for some good old fashioned Euro rivalries. and I like everything about PapaJohn, including that nickname and the fact he is going to the Kings.
I'm not against Simmons as PG, in fact I think it's really interesting because it maximizes his skills and minimizes his weakness of shooting. You can't walk into the season with just that, especially as you are trying to develop the slew of big men on the roster. Colangelo will go get a steady hand at PG this summer.