Lee Chaolan
Member
I think they can still sign and trade JR, which would make up for that Varejao money. Still, don't see them doing that though, probably gonna end up with Crawford.
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NBA OFFSEASON TALK- Where our favorite teams go shopping for tanks
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Yea, I think they'll just settle for Crawford. I just can't see them doing that to Varejao since LeBron still adores him.
Can they not buy him out during the middle of the season though?
Lee Chaolan
Member
I'm pretty sure the NBA closed that loop hole after the Cavs traded Z to the Wiz, and then later brought him back that season.
Maybe if it's done earlier?
Yea. As far as I know, that can't be done anymore but I'm not 100% sure. Someone said they'd have to sit out the rest of the season if that happened now.
LyleLanley
Banned
I don't think the Nets can receive a player in a S&T.
friskykillface
Banned
Mo Gotti the God
Neither can the Cavs. Hell, that's why Thompson is holding out knowing that they HAVE to pay him since they can't replace him at this point. I love him, but we're bound to overpay him and that was before this past season.
I feel bad for Moon mentioning he wants to return to the Cavs now.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Who the heck is Moon.
Another player looking to return to the Cavs:
Another player looking to return to the Cavs:
Craig Ehlo.
https://twitter.com/IAmJamarioMoon/status/618254148816007168
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamario_Moon
Now you know why I think it's sad. I liked him, but really? This isn't a reunion event out of charity. Mo gives us a better scorer off the bench and someone that can run the offense if Kyrie goes down so Delly isn't playing 40 minutes.
Oh, and I'm sure if Ehlo came back, the Spurs would sign Michael Jordan for a couple pennies just so they had the anti-Ehlo. The arms race must go on.
panthapanda
Member
Mo Williams just couldn't stay away from LeBron huh.
LyleLanley
Banned
After striking out on David West the Cavs have no reason not to go after Jamario Moon.
He begged not to be traded after LeBron left and still considers Cleveland home (his sister still lives in the region I believe) so it goes beyond LeBron even though I'm sure that's why he was willing to take a pay-cut since he gets a chance to contend now with LeBron there.
He even posted a while back about visiting his old house and how Cleveland is still his city, etc.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Well, the Spurs were after Mo Williams as well, so at least the Cavs got something they wanted. ;p
Dreams-Visions
Member
real talk: happy as fuck about Mo.
all we need is a backup at SF and we're good to go.
all we need is a backup at SF and we're good to go.
Mavs ain't shit, will fighting out 7th seed with the Jazz.
ratcliffja
Member
They will finish in the top 2 in the West if they stay healthy and could win it all again, but they might need the Spurs and/or Cavs to get hurt again.
They'll be right there. Just need Klay to be all-star Klay and not Finals Klay. Same with Bogut.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Was just thinking, there's a real good shot the Warriors, Spurs and Cavs could all win 65+ games this year. lol
eBay Huckster
Member
it's like the 2008-09 season all over again, except this time we're playing the Lakers' role
Yeah but what would YOU know?
sup ratcliff?
Seriously though, I think it's too simplistic to just look at things in a vacuum and say the Cavs would have won without the injuries. The Warriors were a historically great team all season.
I think what we saw was a young team who got swallowed up by the occasion in the first few games and then managed to pull out of it and get back to their best. There wasn't a single player on that team with even Conference Finals experience (I think). That won't be the case next season obviously.
UnObtainium17
Member
Mo and delay should try doing that dbz fusion dance.. A mixture of them will turn out a good PG.
Edit: I think frank the tank will be good enough that he won't be on the list of scrubs mj drafted. Decent 3 and can put the ball down to the hole.. That against some flabby and slow bigs he be facing from time to time that's easy 6ppg every game lol.
Edit: I think frank the tank will be good enough that he won't be on the list of scrubs mj drafted. Decent 3 and can put the ball down to the hole.. That against some flabby and slow bigs he be facing from time to time that's easy 6ppg every game lol.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Saying the Cavs could have won if Love and Irving wasn't injured isn't downplaying the Warriors at all, they knew they were a great team. Would have been nice to see two healthy squads go at it though.
unknownstranger
Member
There's zero chance they're getting Johnson. Brooklyn doesn't have a first round pick this year and the Cavs don't have a first round pick this year to offer.
I wouldn't say zero chance but now it's a lot less likely with West going to the Spurs and the Cavs most likely wanting to keep Varejao despite the horrible contract. It's meant to be a trade to help the Nets' salary situation, not improve them directly.
It's more about the Nets trying to avoid the repeater tax when they're not contenders and getting rid of Johnson would save them $40M in taxes alone whereas the Cavs are in win now mode and are willing to take the hit this year knowing Johnson will have a different contract next year along with a bigger cap. If Mikhail still wants to sell the Nets, a huge luxury tax issue isn't going to help at all and they're not going anywhere in the playoffs with Joe Johnson eating up the salary along with the 12 other players.
The Nets were the ones willing to pull the trigger if the "sources" are to be believed, but for the Cavs, it relied on picking up West and trading Varejao along with Haywood which is LeBron's favorite teammate so who knows how that would've went. But with West signing with the Spurs, I don't see them willingly giving up Varejao now which is why the rumors of a trade with the Clippers for Crawford doesn't include Andy.
https://twitter.com/WFNYJacob/status/618052222069436416
SyenceLabb
Member
I think it was a smoke screen on cleveland's part all along. They were never serious about shipping Andy, and just wanted to prolong negotiations in hopes that David West would reconsider taking a huge pay cut and playing for a team that the Cavs would potentially face in the finals. David West will be a great fit in San Antonio and once they pick up one more solid big man that can comfortably play center, I feel they are the favorites. Cavs front court is fine. Two 7 footers that can shoot with one of them being a decent shot blocker. Then they have Love and Thompson that will eat up the boards. Cavs would've been a bit undersized with less flexibility if they shipped off Andy for West. Andy as your backup is a great thing to have and it will allow you to better control his minutes and prevent wear and tear. With MO Gatti on board, they just need a backup at the 2 spot and/or a SF/flex guard who can play the 2 and the 3 and they will be set.
panthapanda
Member
I'm not gonna lie, even tho I poked a bit of fun at the Lakers and Knicks, at least they're signing free agents.
Not a peep out of my Hawks since free agency started. Yeah, sure, we have absolutely no cap space thanks to Millsap and the Splitter trade but can I at least get a glimmer of hope that the guys in the front office are at least looking at other possibilities like trading Mike "Mike Scott" Scott or something. Makes me sad man because we only have one-legged Thabo to play SF
Not a peep out of my Hawks since free agency started. Yeah, sure, we have absolutely no cap space thanks to Millsap and the Splitter trade but can I at least get a glimmer of hope that the guys in the front office are at least looking at other possibilities like trading Mike "Mike Scott" Scott or something. Makes me sad man because we only have one-legged Thabo to play SF
Mavs were a 7 seed this year and they got better.
ratcliffja
Member
At least I'm not some Ozzie pretending to understand American sports.
Sup Andy.
And yeah nerves would be less of an issue for the Warriors next year, but the same could be said for the Cavs too. Most of that team had never even been to the playoffs much less the finals.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Crawford to Miami for our bench garbage. C'mon Doc, you've still got one more move in ya.
Dreams-Visions
Member
stop that.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
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Doc needs a bench. We have bench players we want to part with. We need someone that can help us during the 20-30 games wade takes off so that his knees don't turn to powder. It's a win win for both teams.
Only other team interested in him seems to be the cavs and unless they can convince someone to take that haywood contract it aint happening.
ratcliffja
Member
The Clippers need a starting center more than anything.
Starphoenix
Member
I'm not sure anybody is seriously downplaying the Warriors. I think the West will be just as competitive as it was this year. While I see teams like Portland and LAC taking steps back, I think Phoenix, Minnesota and New Orleans will make things interesting for the bottom seeds. As happy as I am about the Spurs signings this summer, they still have to play a full season. Anything can happen.
Randolph Freelander
Member
HInt: Reports are the Cavs are looking at the same player.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Yeah, i pointed that out in my post.
hopefully they don't get him because lol cavs. they're stuck trying to make moves while TT and Bron Bron hold them hostage. Good luck with that.
Thompson isn't holding them hostage. He's negotiating with the Cavs but the two sides can't agree on an amount.
LeBron, however, is being a passive-aggressive prima dona again. I can't of another athlete who has repeatedly pulled this non-negotiating plow. He wants stuff done but doesn't want the stigma that goes along with demanding changes.
MetalFearSolid
Banned
The Raptors still don't have a starting PF.
This really gets to why I don't like him. It's the off the court nonsense he does. Seems so babyish and immature.
UnObtainium17
Member
He's doing it to dan Gilbert though.. So it's all good.
LyleLanley
Banned
Yup, Jordan Crawford. And he failed to stop it getting out obviously.
Unfortunately Jordan Crawford did no dunking on Lebron during his time with the Cs.
MushroomSamba
Member
I'm surprised Josh Smith hasn't gotten more attention by teams. He seemed to play pretty well next to Howard...I remember him abusing the Mavs in the playoffs. He can stretch the floor, rebound, pass pretty well...yet no one seems interested? I know he can be a bit of a headache, but I'm sure some teams should be desperate enough at this point to at least give it a try.
Uno Venova
Banned
Let's get it to 55% this season!
Dreams-Visions
Member
Because it IS way too much. I'd rather the Cavs let him walk than let him consume that much of the salary cap while only being useful on one side of the floor. We can do better for that kinda money.
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