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Greekboy

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Shinobi said:
Frankly the Raptors should keep VC, if for no other reason then to save his hide from getting stripped off elsewhere.

Put this soft primadonna's personal feelings ahead of the good of the team?! Get this pussy the fuck out of T.O. ASAP.
 

Cloudy

Banned
Loki said:
Man, that was a pathetic showing by the US. How does the Olympic format work? It's not a "one loss and out" obviously, so how does it work?

Kinda like soccer tournies I think. Teams are in groups of four and I think the top 2 advance into the next round.

Everyone is gonna zone up now when they play Team USA. It won't be pretty...
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
This team just plain out sucks... TD and AI are the only players worth a damn... oh well at least the off season is fun this year
 
i've said this after every game, but what the fuck is Stephon Marbury doing on this team? He's fucking worthless. Stop letting him be the ball handler. The extent of his playmaking skills consists of driving down the lane to find his own shot, not finding said shot, and making some stupid midair pass. Which reminds me, Larry Brown needs to tell ALL these fuckers to stop making midair passes. What kind of shit is that? You could tell from the opening moments of the game when Richard Jefferson tried to to some lame alley oop setup pass on a fast break to Allen Iverson that something bad was gonna happen. These guys seem to be treating this like an allstar game, trying to make fancy passes and look all flashy, rather than trying to be competitive.
 
I'm utterly ashamed to be a fan of the NBA right now. I hope this is a SERIOUS wake up call to the NBA that a team full of marketable losers isn't going to just cakewalk through the tourney. I see major changes looming on the horizon...
 

Shinobi

Member
Lisa Lashes said:
Put this soft primadonna's personal feelings ahead of the good of the team?! Get this pussy the fuck out of T.O. ASAP.

You want to get rid of the 8th leading scorer in the NBA last season (on a team that had no legit big man and point guard was challenging for record offensive futility no less)? For who? This team has lost enough talented players for absolutely nothing...T-Mac, Christie, Carlos fucking Arroyo. I'm surprised we got Rafer back after letting him go, and we overpaid to do it.

I'd rather throw Richard Peddie's sorry ass the fuck outta town. The twat's been nothing but a blabbering goof the last two years, sticking his fat nose into shit that doesn't concern him. Then he leads Vince on with a bunch of empty promises, and people expect VC to be like "hey, that's ok!". Fuck that. Fuck Peddie too.

Of course trading Vince is exactly what he wants anyway, so your idea is kinda messed to begin with. The new management wants to keep Vince, and it's easy to understand why. Running a system that actually works to VC's strength (up tempo, running the floor) with a half decent big man and the first legit point guard since Mark Jackson and Mugsy Bogues, Vince could drop 25 points a game in his sleep. And I'd rather keep a player that can net me 25 points a night, then get rid of him just because of some other issues.

Now if I can get Ray Allen for VC, or a Paul Pierce for VC, then I'd look at making such a deal. But truth be told, I'd still prefer to keep Vince. I don't think people realize just how shit this team has been the last few years. T-Mac was in a similiar situation last year...scored 28 points with no help whatsoever. I like that sort of talent, and I'd rather keep, nurture and support it, rather then blow him outta there because I broke my own bullshit promises to him.
 
"They play the game the way it's supposed to be played," Iverson said. "It's not about athletics. That's the game the way Karl Malone and John Stockton play it. It's good for kids to see how the game is supposed to be played."

And a big fuck you to all the top players who had "better" things to do than represent their country.
 

Shinobi

Member
HalfPastNoon said:
I'm utterly ashamed to be a fan of the NBA right now. I hope this is a SERIOUS wake up call to the NBA that a team full of marketable losers isn't going to just cakewalk through the tourney. I see major changes looming on the horizon...

I thought 2002 was the wake up call? Or the debacle against Italy? At this rate Team USA is going to set a new world record for wakeup calls.

And Ninja called it, Marbury is a stiff at point...though RJ's might be a bigger stiff overall. I can't get over how sad the makeup of this team is...just no thought put into it whatsoever.
 

kevm3

Member
If they're going to keep needing wake-up calls, they're going to sleep their way through the Olympics. We're flat-out not prepared... Sigh, hopefully Duncan can be put on a REAL team the next olympics, not an all-star assembly.
 
That's what happens when a team is assembled to sell as many jerseys as possible, instead of having a REAL team. Could you imagine what a difference it would be to have players like Redd or Barry there, alongside defensive stoppers like Bowen, Tayshaun or Artest? But they just throw big names around for the sake of it. Hype boy Lebron looks completely lost everytime he steps on the court. It's sad to watch this team. Not that I care if they win, but people expect so much more.

I'm just sad that Tim will have his name attached to this debacle when he busts his ass out there with Iverson, just to have most of the other players brick shots and play zero defense.


Anyway, here's Manu's game winner against Serbia Montenegro:

http://www.spursreport.com/Manugamewinner.wmv

Overpaid? I don't think so.

Manu owned the Serbs today for stealing their World Championship two years ago.



Oh yeah, one more thing:

gasowned.jpg


Hahahaha!!!
 
kevm3 said:
Sigh, hopefully Duncan can be put on a REAL team the next olympics, not an all-star assembly.

The the majority of this team aren't even All-Stars. Only four of the twelve are actual All-Stars. We would've been better off with an actual All-star team.


Takuan said:
Anyone know if they're replaying any matches tonight? I want to watch this travesty.

I might be too late to tell you this, but NBC re-airs their daily Olympic coverage later at night. It has been that way the past two nights. I forget the exact time.
 

DMczaf

Member
Which comes first team or T-Mac? The Rockets are about to figure out.

By Chris Palmer (ESPN Magazine)


T-MAC File
BORN: MAY 24,1979
SIZE: 6'8 210
STATS: 21.4 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 4.1 apg

One lousy 61 loss season is all it took to transform T-Mac from one of the greatest players in the league to an overrated superstar whose selfish ways were hurting his team, at least according to Magic GM John Weisbrod. "I think a superstar is defined by wins, by making the players around him better, and by making the team better," Weisbrod said. So he dealt McGrady to Houston, where he'll team with Yao Ming in a frontcourt that transforms the Rockets into a potential Lakers-like title machine. Now its time for T-Mac to deliver. McGrady's career has been defined by huge numbers, spectacular highlights and the steady green light. But is he willing to be option No. 2 in order to help the Rockets reach No.1?

ORDER IN COURT

Upon first meeting McGrady, Jeff Van Gundy talked with him about where he was comfortable on the court. (T-Mac favors the 17-footer from the left baseline and penetrating down the right side from the top of the key.)
"You definitely want input on their spots, then you go from their," Van Gundy says. "Going from there" generally translates into playing Van Gundy's trademark style: slow, defensive, half-court basketball. ("We hardly ever worked on our running game," says departed point man Steve Francis.) This will be the first time in along time that T-Mac's team will play a style directed by someone other than him.

MING DYNASTY

John Ameachi. Shawn Kemp. Steven Hunter. Pat Garrity. Just some of the low post "threats" T-Mac has teamed with in Orlando. Yao is a different story: he requires constant double-teaming, which will open up driving lanes for McGrady. In his welcome aboard press conference, T-Mac repeatedly praised Yao as the prime reason Houston was his top choice. "He's going to get my championship," McGrady said. T-Mac can opt out of his seven-year, $93 million contract after next season. Whether he will depends largely on how he clicks with Yao. But dont expect a Shaq/Kobe personality clash here. "If I need to sacrifice and give Yao the ball" says McGrady "then thats what I'll do." Only time will tell.

STAR POWER

With the dismantling of the Lakers, Houston is now among the league's marquee attractions, putting T-Mac on center stage. But even with lowly Orlando, McGrady's No.1 jersey was the league's third-best seller. The week after the deal, Rocket's merchandise sales tripled. Fallout in Orlando though was harsh: Weisbrod was soundly criticized by local media, and even recieved two death threats. But T-Macs not ready to pull up stakes quite yet. Right now he's overseeing the construction of a 43,000-square-foot pad in central Florida, where he plans to live in the off-season with wife ClaRenda and their 18 month old daughter, Layla Clarise.

WIDE OPEN

In his four years in Olando, McGrady averaged 22.7 shots per game (second in the league at that time). Van Gundy has never had a player take more than Patrick Ewing's 19.2 in 1995-96. Somethings gotta give. That likely will be McGrady, the youngest player in almost 30 years to average 30-plus points a night. He knew before signing with the Rockets that he would have to defer to Yao; Van Gundy also insists his center get a touch before the first shot. But Yao will help T-Mac's game more than hinder it. An excellent mid-range jump-shooter, T-Mac will benefit from the space Yao will create for him, thanks to pick-and-rolls on the wing. "I wouldnt be surprised if Tracy went out and scored 30 a night," says a rival Western Conference assistant.

WIN OR GO HOME

Before the trade, Van Gundy asked assistant coach Patrick Ewing for his opinion of T-Mac. Ewing assured him that McGrady had the character and the leadership skills to build around, insight the future Hall of Famer gained from playing alongside McGrady in 2001-02. But despite their sparkling individual resumes, neither McGrady nor Van Gundy has ever led a division-winning team. "As far as showing we're championship material," says Van Gundy, "We both have a lot to prove."

Hurry up November! :)
 
You suck, Team USA

COMMENTARY
By Mike Celizic
MSNBC
Updated: 12:36 a.m. ET Aug. 16, 2004

ATHENS, Greece - The United States has suffered upset losses in team sports before and will again. But none has ever been as humiliating as the blowout loss Sunday night in basketball to Puerto Rico.

The small arena that hosted this historic debacle wasn’t even full for the game that laid to rest any lingering misconceptions about the United States' continuing supremacy in world basketball. Even much of the media that has helped foster the notion that the United States was invincible at the game it invented and disseminated around the globe didn’t show up.

Why should they have bothered? The game was miles away from the heart of the Olympics, in an arena that was more like a gym tucked into a corner of an old U.S. Air Force base on the outskirts of Athens. And Michael Phelps was swimming at nearly the same time. There would be plenty of time to write about this latest edition of the Dream Team, which couldn’t possibly lose to the likes of Puerto Rico.


So few thought it mattered that only Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson from among the NBA’s biggest stars bothered to come to Athens. Americans are the greatest basketball players in the world and should play that way. Even if their average age is 23.6, they are a team replete with players who have proved themselves in the cauldron of championship play.

No one really believed this outfit was a dream, but it had inherited that name from the original 1992 squad, and it carried a winning streak by U.S. professional players of 58 straight Olympic contests. By the end of the night, not only was it not a dream, but it was also exposed as not even being a team in any sense other than that they wear the same uniforms and ride the same bus to the game.

In what the rest of the world views as the biggest basketball tournament of them all, Not-a-Team USA came out flatter than a drunk at a karaoke bar. Its offense consisted of someone — usually Allen Iverson or Stephon Marbury — driving the lane, getting the defense to collapse around him, then dishing the ball to an open man on the perimeter, who then shot an air ball.

"We came out flat," admitted Dwyane Wade. "I don’t know why."

Maybe it was because a lot of the members were out late the night before, being big celebrities and having a whole lot of fun at Sports Illustrated’s big party. Maybe it was because they believe their own hype.

More likely it was because they simply aren’t a team, but a collection of people with a lot of individual skill, but little grasp of the fundamentals of the game.

You could see the difference between a team and a collection of celebrities during the pregame warm-ups.

The United States had seven basketballs on the court for 11 guys — Emeka Okafor, who didn’t play, spent the warm-up period getting his back kneaded by a trainer — and they used their time to hoist up random jump shots.

The Puerto Ricans had three balls out and they practiced passing, setting picks, and spotting up for jumpers.

You didn’t know watching the scene how the game would unfold. Puerto Rico is still a team that had never beaten U.S. professionals. Its point guard is the Utah Jazz's Carlos Arroyo, not well known before the game, a national hero on his home island after it was over.

But the game went like the warmup. Puerto Rico ran plays, worked the ball around, blocked out, did all the little things that make big differences. The U.S. players stood around on the perimeter waiting for Iverson or Marbury to draw the defense with a drive. When that happened, the guards kicked the ball out to an open man, who threw up either an airball or one that hit nothing but iron.

That’s the beginning and end of the U.S. offense. It wasn't even particularly adept at getting the ball inside to Duncan. It turned the ball over more often, gave up more fastbreak points, committed more fouls, had fewer steals, and, for much of the game, was barely outrebounding its smaller opponents.

At halftime, the United States was down by 22. It would play furious defense in the second half and would put on a run that got the deficit down to eight points late in the game. But it couldn’t close the gap, couldn’t stop Arroyo, and ultimately got blown out.

"I don’t know what we can get out of this," said U.S. coach, Larry Brown, who surely deserves better than this outfit. "We’re going to find out what we’re made of and what it means to truly be a team."

It may be too late for that. Unless these guys can learn how to pass and set screens and run plays in the next couple of days, they are going to be hard pressed to make the medal round.

Richard Jefferson, who did not distinguish himself, thought that the loss was simply an aberration. "You know Allen Iverson’s going to knock down shots," he said. "You know I’m going to knock them down."

Actually, we don’t know that. We only know that they lost to Italy and needed a miracle shot at the buzzer to beat Germany in a pre-Olympic tournament.


You have to wonder what Shaquille O’Neal, Kevin Garnett, Kenyon Martin, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady and the other stars who couldn’t be bothered to come were thinking when the saw the debacle. You have to wonder if Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan retched at halftime or waited until the end of the game.

But you don’t have to wonder if any team in the world will ever fear a U.S. team again. They won’t. They learned Sunday night they don’t have to.

Anyone else despise Richard Jefferson? Dude's a product of Jason Kidd, and will always be.
 
scola said:
what is on his head? severed fingers?

It looks like someone hitting him from behind. If you look at the side of his neck you can see part of an arm


rc213 said:
Who is Payton kidding? He knew full well there was going to be a shake-up with the Lakers, and he still exercised his option. All other players with options opted out. He exercised his option, then asked to be traded or waived once the Shaq trade talk got serious then reverts back to saying he wants to stay once Rudy T. came onboard. He has no one but himself to blame for being in this situation.
 
Well, I'm finally back guys, and it's great to be able to post again. I've been reading threads for the past month or so, so everything I've been feeling about the NBA has been pretty much covered so, no need to relive the Lakers getting owned again (my VHS tape with games 3, 4, and 5 takes care of that ;P).

Anyway, yeah it's pretty sad that the NBA felt the need to market so many roleplayers as SuperStars with this current generation of players. That was the blessing and curse of having a once in a lifetime Player enter the league, and blow everyone's minds.

Now, every player entering the league is expected to carry the torch, but I knew that once big money entered the picture (A situation created by the popularity of the One), Players simply wouldn't be as hungry anymore (Just look at Payton's total lack of effort...Simply Disgraceful!!)

Well, good to be back guys (and thanks mods)
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Well Danny is sure cheerful about the whole thing! By the way, how many times have the Lakers and Celtics traded with each other... seems like a sad, and rare thing... trades between teams that should hate each other shouldn't happen... kind of like a trade between the red sox and yankees
 

Kseutron

Member
Found this on another forum

hope this isn't old... enjoy :D



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By Page 2
staff

Hold on one second.

OK, we can start now that Amare Stoudemire has finally picked himself off the floor after Carlos Arroyo faked him out of his hightops.

Talk about your upsets. It's like the Washington Generals beating the Globetrotters. The Clippers making the playoffs. Michael Moore voting for George Bush.


Is Iverson counting up the number of losses the U.S. will have?

After losing to an island nation with a population just slightly smaller than Allen Iverson's posse, what's next for the U.S. men's basketball team? What's next for a team that just lost to a country that has sent five players to the NBA and whose best player was once waived by the Toronto Raptors?


Luckily, Page 2 knows what will happen during the rest of the Olympic tournament ...

August 16


During practice, Richard Jefferson dunks during a shooting drill and lets out a big scream. Larry Brown tells Jefferson that maybe he should work instead on his 3-point shooting.

August 17: U.S. vs. Greece
After the dismal performance against Puerto Rico, the U.S. scouts and coaches spend hours breaking down film for their next game against host-country Greece. Only at game time does Brown realize that the film they were watching was actually "Grease," staring John Travolta and Oliva Newton-John.

The game plan of double-teaming Kenickie and denying Danny Zuko the post is quickly abandoned. Bizarrely, Brown still tells the team to watch out for Rizzo on the perimeter.

The U.S. loses to Greece 93-58 while shooting 31 percent from the floor. Afterwards, Stephon Marbury, who was just 1 for 10, tells the press, "You know, the fact is I'm just not as good as everyone believes. Think about it: the Timberwolves finally win a playoff series -- after I'm gone. The Nets make it to two straight NBA Finals -- after I leave. Expect the Suns to be much improved this season. As for the Knicks, well, let's just say Spike Lee better not be expecting us to knock off the Pistons."


The U.S. can dunk; the rest of the world can shoot.

August 19: U.S. vs. Australia
Trailing 28-16 in the second quarter, Jefferson ferociously jams the ball through the rim and lets out a huge yelp. Brown tells Jefferson to give the ball back to Tim Duncan and let him shoot his free throws.

Australia wins 88-72. "The truth is," Shawn Marion tries to explain, "is that we were all resting for the game last night when Poppy showed us this calendar of all these hot female Australian athletes who had posed nude. Well, we spotted some of them in the crowd during the game and I guess we just weren't concentrating out there. And no more questions -- I gotta run. I've got a date with this field hockey player."

August 20
During an offday practice session, the U.S. team misfires on 43 consecutive 3-pointers. But Iverson throws a nifty alley-oop to Jefferson, who slams the ball through the net and lets out a scream.

August 21: U.S. vs. Lithuania
Many members of Team USA nearly miss their game against Lithuania when just getting out of their hotel -- the Queen Mary II -- seems to be a challenge.

LeBron James spends most of the morning trying to determine which door in his luxury suite actually leads out of the room.

In trying to find out the shuttle schedule to the mainland, Carmelo Anthony gets into a fight with the ship's crew when they are completely confused by his questions when he refers to himself only in the third person.

Lamar Odom never makes the game and was last seen heading to his room with "a welcome package from the Amsterdam delegation."


LeBron James and Shawn Marion look on after another U.S. defeat.

It takes nearly three hours to coax Dwyane Wade out of his walk-in closet after he mistakenly ordered "Titanic" from the ship's pay-per-view library.


Finally, after promising a gold medal for the U.S., Carlos Boozer leaves the team and signs with Angola for more money.

Jefferson misses all eight of his 3-point attempts, but trailing 51-19 in the third quarter, slams the ball home, lets out a primordial yell, and then steps on the chest of his fallen defender. The Lituanian comes back down the court and drains a 3-pointer for a 54-21 lead. Lithuania goes on to a 95-71 victory.

Afterwards, Tim Duncan quits the team, saying he's defecting back to the Virgin Islands to play for their national team.

August 22
Michael Phelps is recuited to fill Duncan's spot on the roster. Brown says Phelps reminds him of Duncan with his long wingspan and "after all, Duncan was a swimmer before picking up hoops."

Due to a scheduling conflict during practice, Team USA must share the court with the women. After Lisa Leslie and Diana Taurasi score 23 unanswered points on the men, Brown quits the team and agrees to coach Angola.


Phelps averaged 4.6 points per game in limited action with the Pacers.

August 23: U.S. vs. Angola
In its final shot to make it to the medal round, Team USA faces off against serial patsy Angola. Phelps is given John Stockon's old uniform to wear, but complains that the shorts are too small so he wears his swimsuit instead. He immediately drains four 3-pointers to give the U.S. the lead.

The U.S. leads by 14 early in the third quarter when Iverson tries an alley-oop pass, but Stoudemire, Marion, Anthony and James, unclear who the pass was intended for, all leap high for the ball and knock heads. All are forced to leave the game with concussions.

Phelps finishes with 36 points, all from beyond the arc, but Angola is led by Brown's strong game plan and Carlos Boozer's triple-double and avenges years of losing to Team USA with a 78-77 win. The U.S. has a final shot at victory, but Jefferson clanks a dunk attempt at the buzzer.

* * * * *


David Stern sits in his really big office at NBA headquarters. "Perfect," he says to himself as he looks over the Manhattan skyline. "I stacked the team just how I wanted, with a bunch of young guys who will sell lots of uniforms but can't shoot. The rest of the world now thinks it can compete with us. This will make the NBA more popular than ever. I can't wait to put teams in Europe. Do they play basketball in Norway? I wonder if Beijing can support a franchise? How many billions will our next TV contract be worth? Let's start printing up those Giacomo Galanda jerseys. They're going to be huge in Italy!"
 

Loki

Count of Concision
After losing to an island nation with a population just slightly smaller than Allen Iverson's posse

LOL

After the dismal performance against Puerto Rico, the U.S. scouts and coaches spend hours breaking down film for their next game against host-country Greece. Only at game time does Brown realize that the film they were watching was actually "Grease," staring John Travolta and Oliva Newton-John.

The game plan of double-teaming Kenickie and denying Danny Zuko the post is quickly abandoned. Bizarrely, Brown still tells the team to watch out for Rizzo on the perimeter.

LOL


LeBron James spends most of the morning trying to determine which door in his luxury suite actually leads out of the room.

lol

Lamar Odom never makes the game and was last seen heading to his room with "a welcome package from the Amsterdam delegation."

lol

After Lisa Leslie and Diana Taurasi score 23 unanswered points on the men, Brown quits the team and agrees to coach Angola.

lol

Phelps is given John Stockon's old uniform to wear, but complains that the shorts are too small so he wears his swimsuit instead.

lol

The U.S. leads by 14 early in the third quarter when Iverson tries an alley-oop pass, but Stoudemire, Marion, Anthony and James, unclear who the pass was intended for, all leap high for the ball and knock heads. All are forced to leave the game with concussions.

LOL


In case you couldn't tell, I had fun reading this article. Great stuff. :p The recurring "Richard Jefferson dunks and screams" bit is hysterical, too, but there were too many of those to quote. :D
 

Bat

Member
I can't get over how bad Richard Jefferson looks. For someone who played at the Olympic qualifying tournament, he looks totally lost. The four best players on the court were Duncan, Iverson, Odom, and James....and Duncan and (especially) Iverson looked pretty bad today.

EDIT- Also, I question what Larry Brown is doing out there. This team will not win gold by playing "the right way" because they can't shoot. They'll win by playing the flashy way and just outrunning teams. In the first half, Lebron had like three straight fast break baskets, and Brown took him out and replaced him with Iverson, who then went on to brick some half court jumpers. The problem is that the team doesn't have a good fast break point guard and only one good fast break ball handler (James) but beating teams in the half court isn't working, and it isn't how previous US teams won gold, either.
 

Shinobi

Member
Hold on one second.

OK, we can start now that Amare Stoudemire has finally picked himself off the floor after Carlos Arroyo faked him out of his hightops.



What's next for a team that just lost to a country that has sent five players to the NBA and whose best player was once waived by the Toronto Raptors?



During practice, Richard Jefferson dunks during a shooting drill and lets out a big scream. Larry Brown tells Jefferson that maybe he should work instead on his 3-point shooting.



August 19: U.S. vs. Australia
Trailing 28-16 in the second quarter, Jefferson ferociously jams the ball through the rim and lets out a huge yelp. Brown tells Jefferson to give the ball back to Tim Duncan and let him shoot his free throws.




August 20
During an offday practice session, the U.S. team misfires on 43 consecutive 3-pointers. But Iverson throws a nifty alley-oop to Jefferson, who slams the ball through the net and lets out a scream.




Finally, after promising a gold medal for the U.S., Carlos Boozer leaves the team and signs with Angola for more money.




Jefferson misses all eight of his 3-point attempts, but trailing 51-19 in the third quarter, slams the ball home, lets out a primordial yell, and then steps on the chest of his fallen defender. The Lituanian comes back down the court and drains a 3-pointer for a 54-21 lead. Lithuania goes on to a 95-71 victory.




Afterwards, Tim Duncan quits the team, saying he's defecting back to the Virgin Islands to play for their national team.





August 22
Michael Phelps is recuited to fill Duncan's spot on the roster. Brown says Phelps reminds him of Duncan with his long wingspan and "after all, Duncan was a swimmer before picking up hoops."




Due to a scheduling conflict during practice, Team USA must share the court with the women. After Lisa Leslie and Diana Taurasi score 23 unanswered points on the men, Brown quits the team and agrees to coach Angola.





August 23: U.S. vs. Angola
In its final shot to make it to the medal round, Team USA faces off against serial patsy Angola. Phelps is given John Stockon's old uniform to wear, but complains that the shorts are too small so he wears his swimsuit instead. He immediately drains four 3-pointers to give the U.S. the lead.




The U.S. has a final shot at victory, but Jefferson clanks a dunk attempt at the buzzer.

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Loki

Count of Concision
Wait, so did the US win or lose today to Greece? <too lazy to flick on the TV for the results :p>


Please tell me they won...
 

Ripclawe

Banned
Let me help out Stu Jackson... YOU FUCKED UP! YOU FUCKED UP! YOU FUCKED UP!

poor larry brown.


http://www.berkshireeagle.com/Stories/0,1413,101~6295~2339544,00.html
Brown warns that U.S. might take another hit

By Chris Sheridan
The Associated Press

Larry Brown was despondent, the head of the U.S. selection committee was defensive, and Allen Iverson was hanging up on callers who asked what went wrong.
A day after their first Olympic loss in 16 years, the Americans were experiencing varying degrees of distress.

"I feel like a failure," Brown said. "I'm very disappointed, but very anxious to try to make it better and make it right. That's all I can do.

"If you don't play with unbelievable effort -- plus the fact that these teams are really, truly teams and want it so badly -- what happened last night is going to happen again and again and again."

Coming off a shocking 92-73 loss to Puerto Rico, the American men will play Greece on Tuesday night in front of a boisterous crowd. The noise level of the fans rooting for the host nation will no doubt be ratcheted up now that everyone has seen how the U.S. team is not just vulnerable, but beatable.

Monday was a day of self-analysis, self-loathing and self-defense at the American College of Greece, where the U.S. team went through practice still numb from the game the night before.

"It's always embarrassing to lose a game you should win," Lamar Odom said. "I don't care if you're playing handball in the park. You feel like you should win and you lose, wow!"

Iverson wasn't about to make excuses, "'cause when you do, it makes it harder to recover."

"You realize that you didn't play well, and you try to get together what you did wrong and not point the finger at everyone else," he said.

Carmelo Anthony added: "I didn't sign up for losing, especially not the first game we were in."

U.S. selection committee chairman Stu Jackson attended the practice, but he wasn't too comfortable discussing how the Americans managed to put together a team with such an obvious flaw -- the lack of a capable 3-point shooter to deter opponents from packing defenders into a tight zone.

"The committee did in fact discuss that, but the fact remains that some of our better shooters aren't here," Jackson said. "They didn't elect to play, and we had to go very deep into our player pool, and this is the team that we have."

The committee had an opportunity to add a shooter in late June but instead chose center Emeka Okafor, selecting a fourth big man over of a second pure point guard or a deadeye shooting guard.

Okafor, however, has languished on the bench as the team's 12th man.

And the players who are getting time aren't having success from beyond the arc, going a dreadful 3-for-24 Sunday with 16 consecutive misses.

"It's not in our best interest to talk about the process," Jackson said. "It's over. These are our players, these are our coaches, and this is a game where you don't have excuses.

"We're here, we're in the middle of the tournament, and we have to do the best to win the gold medal. So any other questions regarding the process I'm not going to entertain."

Far more talkative was Iverson, except to those who called him after the loss and asked the wrong question.

"I hanged up on anybody that asked what happened. What kind of question is that?" he said. "What happened? We lost.

"If my coach asked me a question like that, then I'd give him an explanation, or my teammates. But everyone else? For what? They wouldn't understand anyway."

Odom heard from Laiza Morales, the mother of his two children.

"She's Puerto Rican, so she gave it to me a little yesterday," Odom said. "She said it was bittersweet. But I don't really feel like we let down the U.S."

Brown obviously felt otherwise, knocking his team for failing to play with effort, smarts or energy.

He and his staff have failed to make a connection with a group of players some 40 years younger than they are, and Brown's frustration was as evident as his words were harsh.

"In a sense, I guess we feel like we are the Dream Team, where you can just roll it out and think something good is going to happen. It's just not possible," Brown said. "There's no way a coach can coach effort. No way.

"You're playing on the U.S. Olympic team, in the Olympics, and if you've got to question people's effort, you've got a serious problem."

Tuesday's other games are New Zealand-China, Australia-Angola, Lithuania-Puerto Rico, Serbia and Montenegro-Italy and Argentina-Spain.
 
Simmons once again on point like a motherfucker.

. I can't believe how bad our best players are. Watching them routinely screwing up three-on-ones, airballing open 3-pointers, botching defensive assignments on pick-and-rolls ... have we really fallen this far? To me, Marbury's predictable exposure in the Puerto Rico game symbolizes everything that's wrong about USA basketball. Here's a guy who makes something like $13 million a year, and he was totally in over his head. He couldn't guard Arroyo, couldn't set up teammates, couldn't make open jumpers, couldn't do anything. Without the safe harbor of a half-court offense built around him, one of those set-ups where he's allowed to dribble for 20 seconds and launch 24-footers, he was pretty much useless. In the NBA, he's a franchise player. Go figure.

I've been telling you since the beginning Marbury is straight NY playground overhyped garbage. Simmons knows whats up.


Anyway, I'm rooting for us to finish 0-4, 0-6, whatever it takes. We need to learn from this debacle. That Puerto Rico team had a center who looked like Michael Myers, a 40 year-old power forward with a gallon of oil in his hair, and a 7-foot-3 guy who looked like he just woke up. And they killed us just by playing well together. There's a lesson here. I vote for expanding the three-second lane and electroshocking any point guard who makes a poor decision on a fast break. At least it's a start.

roofles.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
From SportRadio610.com website:

Sources tell Sports Radio 610 that the Rockets and Tracey McGrady have agreed in principle to a contract extension which would keep MacGrady in a Rocket uniform for the next six seasons. The deal is essentially a three year max dollar extension on top of the three years left on McGrady's current deal.
 
Matrix said:
From SportRadio610.com website:

Sources tell Sports Radio 610 that the Rockets and Tracey McGrady have agreed in principle to a contract extension which would keep MacGrady in a Rocket uniform for the next six seasons until the bitch cries and demands a trade. The deal is essentially a three year max dollar extension on top of the three years left on McGrady's current deal.

fixed. ;)
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.

DMczaf

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Haha that's funny since he never demanded a trade, unless you call saying that you wont resign with the team once his option is up is demanding a trade.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
DMczaf said:
Haha that's funny since he never demanded a trade, unless you call saying that you wont resign with the team once his option is up is demanding a trade.


BAM!


btw Dm,looks like Rockets are going after Mountombo or Keon Clark to back up Yao,but Clark might want too much money :\ You know the NBA is bad when even backup players who hardly play expect to be paid mucho $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
 
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