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[Josh7289]

I wouldn't. To me, Akihabara represents one of the worst aspects of Japanese culture, and I resent the fact that it is spread to the point that people who have grown up outside of Japan think that it is something desirable or worth of emulation, because:



That is what it represents to me. The complete shutting-out of reality in favor of fiction. As I've stated earlier in this thread, I'm a political science student. But I wasn't originally. When I first started college, I was a computer science major, but I left it. You're probably wondering why I'd do that. I mean, compared to a programmer, a politician isn't a "real" job. But you know what I noticed? You know what a lot of this programmers were going to work on? Video games. The internet. VR.

And I decided that I'd rather have a fake job trying to fix the flawed real world than a real job building the perfect fake one.


I'm angry because this apathetic mentality isn't just in Japan, though they have the worst of it. It's everywhere, and it's spreading, and that terrifies me. It terrifies me that, after having written multiple lengthy posts that go into great and personal detail about why I feel the way I do, people are still asking why. It's like you're not even reading my posts. It's like I'm talking to no one.

And in a way, I'm not. Technically I'm just sitting here in front of a screen typing out my thoughts. This isn't a real conversation. This isn't real human contact. I don't even know what it is.

You know there are far, far more jobs in software development than those few you mentioned, right?

I think you're being incredibly naive, self-righteous, and even racist throughout this thread.

 

[Crash Station]

This. Shit. Right. Here.
I can't. Fucking. Stand it.

This guy's post is like a parody, but it's real. You otakus seem to have this mentality that anyone who criticizes your warped perception of reality is an idiot. You can't even fathom why anyone would think it's weird.

And you know what? I understand weird subcultures. I'm a fucking furry. But you what else? Furries don't do shit like this. Furries haven't taken over western animation and turned it into a parody of itself. Furries don't constantly shitpost in other threads about how great furry culture is. If a person told me furries were weird, I'd agree. We are. And what I certainly wouldn't do is post a picture of a fur con and say, "Who wouldn't want to be here?"

Because the sad thing is, anime was way better than western animation. Was. But it has been completely taken over by the otaku demographic. Japanese videogames are the same way. You guys probably think I hate Japanese stuff, but the fact it, I don't. Japan has some of the most talented artists in the world; hell, they even have furries there too, and their work is way better than the western artwork.
What I hate is seeing all this talent wither away, to see an entire nation of talented, intelligent people fade, and then?

I come into this thread and see a lot of weeaboos who think that because they have been to Japan a few times, that they're right and I'm wrong, and everything will be okay. And what do they show me? What do they value the most? Otaku stuff. Because that's all Japan is to them. Because they think that the entire creative output of a country being devoted to this shit while the country itself dies is A-OK.

So I'm sorry. I really am. I never should have said anything. Because it is pretty clear that it isn't worth my time. I actually take time to right my posts. I try to foster discussion; this is a forum, after all. But if all I'm going to get out of is a short, snippy reply from someone who barely read my posts or, even worse, a fucking gif, then fuck it.

Why are you going so far out of your way to call out a poorly seen nerd subculture when you're part of one that is just as discriminated against (if not more so)? Seems kind of counterproductive to me, especially when you're assuming anyone with even a little bit of interest if a fanatic.

 

[striferser]

I wouldn't. To me, Akihabara represents one of the worst aspects of Japanese culture, and I resent the fact that it is spread to the point that people who have grown up outside of Japan think that it is something desirable or worth of emulation, because:

That is what it represents to me. The complete shutting-out of reality in favor of fiction. As I've stated earlier in this thread, I'm a political science student. But I wasn't originally. When I first started college, I was a computer science major, but I left it. You're probably wondering why I'd do that. I mean, compared to a programmer, a politician isn't a "real" job. But you know what I noticed? You know what a lot of this programmers were going to work on? Video games. The internet. VR.

And I decided that I'd rather have a fake job trying to fix the flawed real world than a real job building the perfect fake one.

I think you should notice the importance of programmer and that they also try to fix the flawed real world as well.

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

You know there are far, far more jobs in software development than those few you mentioned, right?

I think you're being incredibly naive, self-righteous, and even racist throughout this thread.

My statements in regards to computer science were based on my experience with the field. No one that I can recall wanted to do anything like computer security or IT; everyone wanted to make the next big app or game.

I'm being pretty much the opposite of naive. I will concede that I'm probably being a little self-righteous. But racist? I don't even see how you got that out of what I'm saying, unless you think that otakus are even remotely representative of what the average Japanese person is like, which I didn't even insinuate; in fact, I thought I made it pretty clear that I dislike that otaku culture has corrupted mainstream Japanese culture.

 

[terrisus]

My statements in regards to computer science were based on my experience with the field. No one that I can recall wanted to do anything like computer security or IT; everyone wanted to make the next big app or game.

But you are aware that many people do work in those fields, right?
So why pretend they don't exist?

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

But you are aware that many people do work in those fields, right?
So why pretend they don't exist?

I am aware. And I don't understand what made you think I'm pretending they don't exist. I'm not talking about the senior programmers that have been coding since before the Internet. I'm talking about modern, young programmers just getting into the field, whose only exposure to what code can do has largely consisted of videogames and other entertainment media, and not the simple, retro computers that the older programmers grew up with. There were definitely students that were extremely talented and actually cared about computer technology as a field, not just its applications, but I got the feeling that those students were a minority; it was extremely upsetting to me to being trying in vain to understand a complicated lecture while most of the students in front of me sat, oblivious, reading manga on their laptops.

These are real trends in computer science that are causing some concern, but that isn't the subject of this thread.

Why are you going so far out of your way to call out a poorly seen nerd subculture when you're part of one that is just as discriminated against (if not more so)? Seems kind of counterproductive to me, especially when you're assuming anyone with even a little bit of interest if a fanatic.

I don't see how. But maybe I need to elaborate more to make it more clear why I said that. Furries started in the west, and a lot of early western animation was based on anthropomorphic animal characters, which furries are fans of. However, such characters are not exclusively depicted in animation any longer; most modern shows just have regular people. Meanwhile, look at anime. It was, originally, simply a word to describe Eastern or more specifically Japanese animation. However, over time, it has come to become so associated with otaku culture that many of the casual anime fans don't even admit to liking it, and you see people that do still enjoy it on a casual level loath how "Japanamation" has engendered such negative associations. That's the difference. If you say you like popular western cartoon like Regular Show, which happens to feature a lot of anthropomorphic animal characters, people aren't going to automatically assume you're a furry. Meanwhile, if I said I enjoyed a Japanese show, people would probably immediately assume that I'm some kind of anime nerd.

 

[Blues1990]

It's bizarre that both genders are so withdrawn from each other.

From what I've heard from a pen pal of mine, she said that one of the main reasons why she has little interest with dating (let alone having sexual intercourse) is the fear of having to give up an interesting, life fulfilling career, per the expectations of a Japanese society when a woman marries and are forced into traditional women's roles.

Can't say I blame her, really.

 

[GorillaJu]

Is it just me or are people misinterpreting this article? Japanese people have sex. A lot. If you go to Japan looking to get laid, you will get laid. The problem is that stable couples aren't having sex, not that people aren't horny. People in Japan are horny. They're people after all.

 

[GorillaJu]

This is really just not the case. I mean, maybe it's the case for a small segment, but not the majority. It's not like people have zero sex drive in Japan. It's just that a lot of them are finding it not worth the effort to pursue relationships or sexual encounters with a permanent partner.

As usual, Zefah getting to my point faster and better than I can :lol

 

[Crash Station]

I don't see how. But maybe I need to elaborate more to make it more clear why I said that. Furries started in the west, and a lot of early western animation was based on anthropomorphic animal characters, which furries are fans of. However, such characters are not exclusively depicted in animation any longer. Meanwhile, look at anime. It was, originally, simply a word to describe Eastern or more specifically Japanese animation. However, over time, it has come to become so associated with otaku culture that many of the casual anime fans don't even admit to liking it, and you see people that do still enjoy loath how "Japanamation" has engendered such negative associations. That's the difference. If you say you like popular western cartoon like Regular Show, which happens to feature a lot of anthropomorphic animal characters, people aren't going to automatically assume you're a furry. Meanwhile, if I said I enjoyed a Japanese show, people would probably immediately assume that I'm some kind of anime nerd.

I'm not sure how assumptions from the wider public (or at least those familiar with that subculture) should lead you to personally be offended when someone's actions either confirm or deny those stereotypes.

I know people that are absolutely convinced every single furry is a closet zoophile, but I'm not going to make such a shallow all-encompassing judgement.

 

[darscot]

My wife is no more entitled then any other attractive women in North America. When she is pregnant carrying a baby and she gets on a train she assumes she will get a seat. Its not like that in Japan. You learn quick you don't give up your seat the same way you do over hear. I got up for a women and offered her my seat one time. It was a total scene that she is embarrassed trying to convince you to sit back down I'm saying no way. They do not like that kind of scene in public. After that first time I just always got up stepped off the train and jumped back on the next car. No scene no hassle.

There are little things that are just really weird you tell a stranger you need to find a bus. They will walk 10 minutes out of there way to get you to the bus station. As they enter the building they will let the door swing shut in your face behind them. They just don''t hold doors they way we do. There are thousands of little things like that and it takes time to get used to it. Especially for a women that is just naturally used to that kind of thing.

Probable the funniest thing that was me and my family would be out in public and people would come up and ask to take pictures of us and then literally ask my wife to step out of the picture so it was just me and my son. Do that in North America to any good looking women and she is going to be surprised. Its not elitist its just unexpected.

It was the total opposite for me I missed being anonymous, hated never being able to blend in, my wife hated being invisible.

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

I'm not sure how assumptions from the wider public (or at least those familiar with that subculture) should lead you to personally be offended when someone's actions either confirm or deny those stereotypes.

I was trying to discuss the difference between the two subcultures in an attempt to better illustrate some things I dislike. But it sounds like our personal experiences are different.

I know people that are absolutely convinced every single furry is a closet zoophile, but I'm not going to make such a shallow all-encompassing judgement.

And I know people who are absolutely convinced that otakus are closet pedophiles. But I'm not going to make such a shallow, all-encompassing judgement either.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

My wife is no more entitled then any other attractive women in North America. When she is pregnant carrying a baby and she gets on a train she assumes she will get a seat. Its not like that in Japan. You learn quick you don't give up your seat the same way you do over hear. I got up for a women and offered her my seat one time. It was a total scene that she is embarrassed trying to convince you to sit back down I'm saying no way. They do not like that kind of scene in public. After that first time I just always got up stepped off the train and jumped back on the next car. No scene no hassle.

There are little things that are just really weird you tell a stranger you need to find a bus. They will walk 10 minutes out of there way to get you to the bus station. As they enter the building they will let the door swing shut in your face behind them. They just don''t hold doors they way we do. There are thousands of little things like that and it takes time to get used to it. Especially for a women that is just naturally used to that kind of thing.

Probable the funniest thing that was me and my family would be out in public and people would come up and ask to take pictures of us and then literally ask my wife to step out of the picture so it was just me and my son. Do that in North America to any good looking women and she is going to be surprised. Its not elitist its just unexpected.

It was the total opposite for me I missed being anonymous, hated never being able to blend in, my wife hated being invisible.

That's so weird. I didn't have that experience at all.

There are assigned seats on each car for pregnant and elderlies. Huge signs are plastered on these areas. Every time I saw old or pregnant or disabled people, people would get off those seats and make them available to the designated passengers.

Except on rush hours where the trains are turned to cans of sardines.

And like I said, people held doors opened until like a series of people passed through. Even when they are running late. Sometimes I saw the slight frustration on their faces as they held open those doors and a new person comes briskly walking towards them doors.

:x

 

[darscot]

That's so weird. I didn't have that experience at all.

There are assigned seats on each car for pregnant and elderlies. Huge signs are plastered on these areas. Every time I saw old or pregnant or disabled people, people would get off those seats and make them available to the designated passengers.

Except on rush hours where the trains are turned to cans of sardines.

And like I said, people held doors opened until like a series of people passed through. Even when they are running late. Sometimes I saw the slight frustration on their faces as they held open those doors and a new person comes briskly walking towards them doors.

:x

I took the trains at rush hour and was in the city all the time. My wife was out side the core city, we would say the burbs but in Japan its still concrete city just farther away. I'm not referring to major shopping centers places like that. I mean once you get outside that.

Other weird shit they would do that freaked us both out, we would go to dinner at the little family restaurant. The grandmother of the family would literally just come out and grab our son and start showing him around. Carrying him and rocking him, take him in the back, the first time we were like WTF. Then we learned sweet we can eat in peace. That type of shit is never going to happen in North America.

 

[funkypie]

I saw a documentary where Japanese men were falling in love with virtual girl friends on hand held devices. was apparently one of the reasons why the birth rates were slow.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

I took the trains at rush hour and was in the city all the time. My wife was out side the core city, we would say the burbs but in Japan its still concrete city just farther away. I'm not referring to major shopping centers places like that. I mean once you get outside that.

Other weird shit they would do that freaked us both out, we would go to dinner at the little family restaurant. The grandmother of the family would literally just come out and grab our son and start showing him around. Carrying him and rocking him, take him in the back, the first time we were like WTF. Then we learned sweet we can eat in peace. That type of shit is never going to happen in North America.

Yea, very odd :> Different experiences all around I suppose :3

 

[Crash Station]

I was trying to discuss the difference between the two subcultures in an attempt to better illustrate some things I dislike. But it sounds like our personal experiences are different.

And I know people who are absolutely convinced that otakus are closet pedophiles. But I'm not going to make such a shallow, all-encompassing judgement either.

I wasn't attacking you, just commenting on what I find to be baffling and almost contradictory beliefs.

My wife is no more entitled then any other attractive women in North America.

I don't know, expecting little courtesies based on gender does sound like a mild form of (arguably widespread depending on the culture) entitlement to me.

But yeah, giving up your seat for pregnant women is something I'd think would be common to most if not all first world countries.

 

[Meffer]

I think that documentaries that talk about this likely "flourish" on it to make seem like a big deal. Is it a problem? Yes it is, and it needs to be addressed and a solution has to be found. But is it huge problem? Not as much as these docus' perceive it.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

It's going to be hard to focus on my grades when 2 out of my 4 classes are interesting but joke classes when it comes to difficulty (a anime and popular tv class and a modern culture class) and my other two classes are Japanese language courses in which my ability to better learn the language will be very dependent on my interactions with Japanese people (and I happen to prefer women in almost every situation).

But thanks for the advice, I will try.

If you picked your study abroad program just as a way to swing a semester long vacation in Japan (that's what I did) then fuck grades. (of course, all of my study abroad credit was mandatory pass/fail...) Have fun. Talk to Japanese girls if you want. Hopefully that's not your only reason for going. Don't get ideas in your head from stupid threads like this one that every single girl in Japan is looking for casual hookups with western guys. Some might, some might not. Go figure, it's better to treat people as individuals rather than a stereotype.

Also go do all night karaoke! All you can eat Korean BBQ! Wander around the city and purposely get lost! Drink at an izakaya with friends until the absolute last minute and then rush out to catch the last train home! Miss the last train home and spend the night at a club/internet cafe/24-hour restaurant! Have fun!

 

[DxGonzalo]

If you picked your study abroad program just as a way to swing a semester long vacation in Japan (that's what I did) then fuck grades. (of course, all of my study abroad credit was mandatory pass/fail...) Have fun. Talk to Japanese girls if you want. Hopefully that's not your only reason for going. Don't get ideas in your head from stupid threads like this one that every single girl in Japan is looking for casual hookups with western guys. Some might, some might not. Go figure, it's better to treat people as individuals rather than a stereotype.

Also go do all night karaoke! All you can eat Korean BBQ! Wander around the city and purposely get lost! Drink at an izakaya with friends until the absolute last minute and then rush out to catch the last train home! Miss the last train home and spend the night at a club/internet cafe/24-hour restaurant! Have fun!

Haha thanks will do! And I wanted to experience Japan and have a lot of interest in their culture, so that's my main reason for going. But women are a huge part of my life (not to sound shallow). So that's a huge positive if I could get to experience beautiful women from another country

Edit: I wasn't trying to stereotype Japanese women. More like seek general advice on approaching them.

 

[StickSoldier]

What ya know, I got something in common with them. Just ain't got the time for all that nonsense.

Spoiler

No one wants to do it with me

 

[Megabyte117]

Haha thanks will do! And I wanted to experience Japan and have a lot of interest in their culture, so that's my main reason for going. But women are a huge part of my life (not to sound shallow). So that's a huge positive if I could get to experience beautiful women from another country

Edit: I wasn't trying to stereotype Japanese women. More like seek general advice on approaching them.

Depends. They'll likely approach you. Having studied abroad for a total of two semesters, it's fair to say, based on my observations and personal conversations, that they're generally attracted to (obvious) foreigners. Foreign women have a harder time of it, as I believe someone mentioned above. Just be aware that there are cultural differences; a friend of mine who studied abroad for a year mentioned he was frequently frustrated with those differences as they applied to dating. He said they're typically less forward, and will be taken aback if you are overly so.

I have an interest in Japan, I respect the country, I'll be visiting for the 6th time this summer, but Aeoliphile makes some valid points. Specifically though, I especially resent the otaku-esque tourist who idolizes Japan and puts it on a pedestal in some grass is greener on the other side bullshit. Japan is a country, it's different in some ways, and similar to your own in others. It's not perfect, it's got plenty of flaws, and it's definitely not like your anime/games. Politically and socially, it's a bit of a mess, and for me this past summer, it was easy to feel increasingly cynical overall.

 

[Ayumi]

Looks like someone who used to be into Japanese media/pop culture but is saddened by the direction in which it has gone in recent years. Can't say I disagree with him if that's the case. I can't stand all of the moe/loli stuff and groups like AKB48 that have become more and more prominent.

I can't tell if he was yelling at me in his long post or agreeing with me.. Either way, he seems to hate what I hate so I was hoping he was agreeing with my post and then replying to the others after. I was in no way defending otaku or horny visitors.

Because other than those who think they can come to take advantage of girls or the culture, I really cannot stand those people who think Akiba is the capital city of Japan, and that all of Japan is just like in their anime. I think it's great when people are passionate about something, but those are actual weebs who just shit up the culture for other people.. Makes it easy for others to stereotype all anime fans as crazy and delusional, which a lot of GAF already is doing, but I guess that's another story.

 

[Not]

Man... what hit this country? The culture that doesn't really cater to past as well as modern relationship standards? The overabundance of simulacra? Either way, it's fascinating.

 

[mujun]

Man... what hit this country? The culture that doesn't really cater to past as well as modern relationship standards? The overabundance of simulacra? Either way, it's fascinating.

The gender inequality? Long work hours? Emphasis on stability over marrying for love? Backlash against marrying due to social pressure? Many/majority of men thinking that having an affair is an acceptable thing?

All of the above play some part in my experience?

 

[GorillaJu]

My wife is no more entitled then any other attractive women in North America. When she is pregnant carrying a baby and she gets on a train she assumes she will get a seat. Its not like that in Japan. You learn quick you don't give up your seat the same way you do over hear. I got up for a women and offered her my seat one time. It was a total scene that she is embarrassed trying to convince you to sit back down I'm saying no way. They do not like that kind of scene in public. After that first time I just always got up stepped off the train and jumped back on the next car. No scene no hassle.

There are little things that are just really weird you tell a stranger you need to find a bus. They will walk 10 minutes out of there way to get you to the bus station. As they enter the building they will let the door swing shut in your face behind them. They just don''t hold doors they way we do. There are thousands of little things like that and it takes time to get used to it. Especially for a women that is just naturally used to that kind of thing.

Probable the funniest thing that was me and my family would be out in public and people would come up and ask to take pictures of us and then literally ask my wife to step out of the picture so it was just me and my son. Do that in North America to any good looking women and she is going to be surprised. Its not elitist its just unexpected.

It was the total opposite for me I missed being anonymous, hated never being able to blend in, my wife hated being invisible.

Meh I give up my seat all the time for pregnant women and just say some euphoric ass shit like どうぞお座りください and everytime it's just been some ありがとう ass reply and no ones made anything of it.

White women in Japan do tend to be invisible, especially moms. Dunno why, maybe people just assume they have their own thing going on and don't want/need assistance.

 

[Neph1x]

Having been there for over two years while consistently living with Japanese people and getting integrated into their culture, I'd say the main problem with the younger generation and Japan as a whole isn't that they don't have sex; they do, lots of it.

But rather that out of all the people I knew, not a single one of them had any intention of getting into a relationship or having kids, ever.
There are multiple reasons for that as well:

- They don't want to stand out.
- A pregnant or single mother getting bullied by co-workers for not working as hard is commonplace.
- They want to save up money first.
- Too busy with work. ( sleeping bags at work does that to you )

etc.

Also, having lived near Akihabara I can probably mention that pop culture isn't helping with grown men being obsessed with precure and young idols.

Aaaand that part of "culture" is only bound to grow as more and more creepy anime connoisseur's come in from the west, thinking that Japan is just like in their animu.

 

[Forkball]

This is a complex and serious issue. Before I comment, let me just see what GAF has to say...

I wonder if Japanese girls go for Black guy? I love me a sexy Japanese woman.

Japanese women seem, to me at least, so submissive

I have literally seen guys act horny in a group, and only in a group.

Those same women giggling and smiling through there hands at you that they are a virgin will take you to a love hotel and get all kinds of freaky.

I'm a fucking furry.

Aside from the "giant" Condom store in Harajuku, I can't imagine where else you would buy them.

Japan is dying.

What's worked for me (in China). Is finding older women that have been unwanted by their husbands. Usually it's quite easy to make love with a woman that wants it but has no options.(ie negligent husband).

Yup... being newly single for the first time in 5 years, I would be more than happy to lend a hand to some sex-deprived Japanese honies.

I'm a fucking furry.

And to be totally honest, I don't care if Japan dies.

Why fly to Japan? With their attitudes on sex you have a better chance of getting laid nearly everywhere else (Brothels withstanding).

I was told by my Japanese friend that i will be very desirable when i go there but then this thread came up and stared to make me worry 😂

I'm a fucking furry.

 

[FZZ]

Yo GAF why the fuck y'all so thirsty?

 

[daniels]

Yo GAF why the fuck y'all so thirsty?

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

This is a complex and serious issue. Before I comment, let me just see what GAF has to say...

That's... That's quite an epic compilation, I have to say!

 

[CadetMahoney]

I saw a documentary where Japanese men were falling in love with virtual girl friends on hand held devices. was apparently one of the reasons why the birth rates were slow.

that has got to be a joke. I'd be first to believe women are just less open to sex and social customs like not showing affection in public with older ppl shunning younger ppl for kissing being a bigger factor before believing that.

 

[Sadist]

that has got to be a joke. I'd be first to believe women are just less open to sex and social customs like not showing affection in public with older ppl shunning younger ppl for kissing being a bigger factor before believing that.

Love Plus was some serious business yo. I saw the documentary and it's real. It's a small percentage of men of course, but they're out there. Reading the thread... oof. Anyway, not being interested in sex as a young man... those working hours are some serious libido destroying shit.

 

[docbon]

What member here on Gaf wouldn't want to visit Akihabara or even live a stones throw from it?

I think I'll pass. Any place with concentrated amounts of otaku and idol subcultures sounds skeevy as fuck.

 

[dankir]

But sex is awesome

 

[Shake Appeal]

Well this thread has been eye-opening for me.

 

[Aeriscloud]

But sex is awesome

This can be taken in 2 ways.

 

[Yokai]

The op is interesting but this thread went to shit.


Japanese women are like any other woman in the world. I know, it's shocking but it's true. If you can't talk to women here, that won't change if you go to japan. Arguably, it gets even harder. I deal with language barriers all the time and have studied the language for a long time.


Women in japan have to take work seriously to maintain lifestyle and independence. Relationships are viewed as being a distraction for women who value their independence and don't want to be expected to marry and become house keepers. In other words, women are more career focused than family focused which, due to the rigidly patriarchal structure of Japanese marriage, has driven many women away from seeking relationships.

 

[Azzurri]

I think this is really interesting. I wonder how this changes their productivity, as a society.

This statement reminds me of that seinfield episode where George can't have sex with his GF and becomes genius.

 

[AgentOtaku]

Cant recommend Black Passenger, Yellow Cabs enough

What starts as a biography about a man's sexual addiction, gradually becomes a pretty interesting deconstruction of Japanese culture

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

The op is interesting but this thread went to shit.


Japanese women are like any other woman in the world. I know, it's shocking but it's true. If you can't talk to women here, that won't change if you go to japan. Arguably, it gets even harder. I deal with language barriers all the time and have studied the language for a long time.


Women in japan have to take work seriously to maintain lifestyle and independence. Relationships are viewed as being a distraction for women who value their independence and don't want to be expected to marry and become house keepers. In other words, women are more career focused than family focused which, due to the rigidly patriarchal structure of Japanese marriage, has driven many women away from seeking relationships.

good post~