GalacticAE
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Sorry if this has been asked before but I'm wondering if I would be able to add a 360 PCB to the PS3 TE stick.
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letsbereasonable
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GalacticAE said:
I might be wrong, but I believe the thinking was that while it might be easier to add a Cthulhu to a 360 TE, you should be able to add a 360 pcb to the PS3 TE.
GalacticAE
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Thanks for the reply and the cthulu suggestion. Unfortunately, I only have a PS3 TE and PS3 standard on pre-order right now.letsbereasonable said:
letsbereasonable
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GalacticAE said:
Oh I hear you, I'm in the same situation. It sounds like it isn't too difficult to mod those cheap Madcatz 360 XBLA "arcade" pcbs to a PS3 stick, so that's probably the direction I'll be going.
akachan ningen
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GalacticAE said:
You should be able to do that with any stick as long as there's room inside.
MarkMan
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http://earf.360arcadians.net/index.php?id=79 <<< podcast with review on TE stick;56 minutes in
AdawgDaFAB
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Halvie said:Been working on some art for my stick, and just looking for some opinions. I like the pictures of Ken and Makoto, but the rest is pretty much up in the air. Any ideas?
Ken has evolved into ... FABIO!
frustrated
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Finally got my TE! Great stick but there's just a couple minor "quality" issues I hope MarkMan or anyone else can comment on. I first noticed the panel itself is not flush on the stick side. It's sort of puffed up like the panel isn't aligned right. You can see the difference in the pics below. Sorry if it's a little big.
Top side by guide button:
Pushed down to show difference:
Bottom left edge of panel:
Second thing is the by cable door. The top panel is not flush with the top edge of the door. It actually pushes down quite a bit and even affects the bevel around the panel in that area if you press it down. Not sure if is related with the "puffed" panel. Take a look:
Above door:
Pushed down for difference:
Sorry if this was already mentioned but, last thing I noticed is the RT and LT buttons in the dashboard. Buttons work fine in SFHD but when in the guide/dashboard, the RT and LT do not work, making it impossible to use symbols when sending text. I haven't tried any other RT/LT functions. Is this normal? Just wanted to make sure before I start opening it up to mod it.
Thanks in advance and thanks to MarkMan and MadCatz for an awesome stick!
Top side by guide button:
Pushed down to show difference:
Bottom left edge of panel:
Second thing is the by cable door. The top panel is not flush with the top edge of the door. It actually pushes down quite a bit and even affects the bevel around the panel in that area if you press it down. Not sure if is related with the "puffed" panel. Take a look:
Above door:
Pushed down for difference:
Sorry if this was already mentioned but, last thing I noticed is the RT and LT buttons in the dashboard. Buttons work fine in SFHD but when in the guide/dashboard, the RT and LT do not work, making it impossible to use symbols when sending text. I haven't tried any other RT/LT functions. Is this normal? Just wanted to make sure before I start opening it up to mod it.
Thanks in advance and thanks to MarkMan and MadCatz for an awesome stick!
frustrated
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Is the RT/LT not working in the guide, normal?
so, I'm kind of fed up with my 360 pad for HD Remix and I'm ready to upgrade to an arcade stick. I've never played a fighting game with an arcade stick I'm the biggest noob when it comes to this stuff you'll find around. I know nothing about these mods and different buttons. I see HRAP all the time and have no clue what it means. I was checking out the Mad Catz fight stick for the 360, not the TE but the regular one. That one is looks really nice to me, except it's 70$ which is a lot of money right now. Should I wait and get that one when I get the chance or are there other cheaper sticks that get the job done just as well. If I could get a decent stick for 40$, that'd be great. Who knows, maybe I'll get into this modding stuff and turn a cheap stick into something you hardcore peeps would be happy to use.
Awntawn said:
yep. and besides the annoying protective film, which should be easy to remove if you're replacing the buttons, i'm liking the hrap ex a lot. imo the black mirror top is more solid and more attractive than the printed top on the hrap 3, and surprisingly it doesn't smudge as easily. it's going to look awesome once i get those sanwa buttons in -- the color-coded default buttons are too consoley
BudokaiMR2
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I asked in the SF4 thread which I guess wasn't the best place, but what exactly is wrong with the HRAP buttons? Kind of a stick newbie...
BudokaiMR2 said:
they're just kind of mushy and unresponsive in comparison to sanwas -- it's possible to push the plunger down slightly without activating the button. i'm not sure if this is enough to make you miss inputs, but timings for certain things can be very sensitive in hd remix and sf4, and i'm just more comfortable with sanwas
Awntawn said:
a guide (written for the hrap 2, but as far as the buttons and balltop go, it applies to the 3 and ex as well): http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=132472
button layout wouldn't be an issue for any game with button mapping options
Manabanana
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I ordered the Amazon HRAP3. Here's a mock-up of what I wanna do with it. Puyo and Puzzle League.
cr_blah_blah
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I honestly wasn't going to reply more in this topic after questioning about the film (thank you to the repliers for your help)...but since I see recommendations going on, and more people about to spring on this sucker, I'll just say my peace and leave it at that.
A couple other things to note about the HRAP EX that will either effect your time and/or money -
- The headphone plug-in gives constant high-pitched feedback when operating.
I assume something inside the stick hasn't been grounded properly...it's about the only reason I can imagine this type of noise existing, but I haven't had the time or energy to take the damn thing back apart and look for what's precisely wrong. But either way - unless you already have a terrible case of tinnitus , this will drive you absolutely insane and render the headphone support useless until fixed.
- The headset plug placement is ridiculous.
I suppose, in a way, this is moot since the headphone jack doesn't even work properly, but it's still so flaberghastingly stupid that it deserves a mention. With the way they have designed this thing, the mic plugs in directly above the stick. Like....right above it. This means that you have to find a way to get the wire across the stick and up to your ear without getting in the way of your hand. The box does show a picture of some little plastic clip that you're supposed to be able to glue to the side of this thing to route the headphone cord around the controller, but I found no such piece within my box, or in another box at the store that I asked a clerk to check for me. Either way, it's just a stupid decision of engineering that shouldn't have even entered the equation.
- The cord length is pretty short.
I'm sure there are some folks for whom it won't be a problem, but for others, it means yet more money and time.
- The "break-away" cable was made too loose.
Several times my HRAP has appeared to have just up and died. And then, I discover, that it's just the weight of the cord pulling the break-away portion just enough to disconnect the socket. Not being pulled, mind you - this thing will disconnect from just hanging there. And in case you think I'm just some overly animated controller yanker - I tested it. Plugged it in firmly, left it alone for two hours, when I came back - disconnected again. Unless your Xbox/PC is already on the floor, this will be an issue. Tape or glue, it's your choice.
- This will not work with PC out of the box.
The LT and RT buttons will not be recognized by your PC for many games/programs with the default drivers. You can fish around and find solutions (XBCD), but this will involve tricking your computer to accept unsigned drivers and all sorts of otherwise unrecommendable BS. It took me two hours of time just to get this working when all was said and done, and even then it's pretty unreliable and I still have compatibility problems in a few isolated instances. Frustrating.
- The default buttons are pretty poor.
You hear alot about people replacing the buttons and things, but this has less to do with fanatacism and more to do with the fact that the factory installs are loud, clunky, and cheap feeling. Yeah, they are quick detach buttons, but having to buy new ones considerably adds to the TCO of an already expensive product. I did not purchase this product with the intention of becoming a "modder." I became a modder because this product is so poor.
Overall-
Honestly, I was pretty upset when I first discovered that the laziness of the manufacturer was going to cause me to have to open up the box just to remove the stupid protector film, but that was just the tip of the iceberg in terms of my disappointment with this product.
If this was just some $20 joystick or something, then sure. That's life.
But for the price they're charging for this thing? These types of ridiculous, avoidable problems simply shouldn't be the case.
I've seen people recommending "HRAP" for years, and frankly assumed that it was due to the high quality of the product. But this thing is just a marvel of stupid engineering, nickle and dime cost slashing, and overall inconvenience.
I'm not a stick aficionado, or someone who has extensive experience in dealing with this sort of thing enough to know whether or not this is just the way it is - but I do know, as a general consumer, that this product is not even remotely close to as "premium" as the price tag. I wouldn't even expect this type of crap from a budget box. And that's just despicable.
I've also got a preorder in for one of the MadCatz TE sticks, but I'll say this right now. If I have to spend even half the amount of time, energy, or money that I have with this HRAP, I'll either return it to the store or throw it up on ebay, and wash my hands of this whole mess.
I'm not interested in becoming that "downer" in the thread that's just looking for a place to bitch or vent - I won't bother bringing this up again or argue with those who may disagree - but I honestly think that people should have a better clue as to what they're getting into on this thing. I haven't been this disappointed with the quality of a product I've purchased in a very long time.
A couple other things to note about the HRAP EX that will either effect your time and/or money -
- The headphone plug-in gives constant high-pitched feedback when operating.
I assume something inside the stick hasn't been grounded properly...it's about the only reason I can imagine this type of noise existing, but I haven't had the time or energy to take the damn thing back apart and look for what's precisely wrong. But either way - unless you already have a terrible case of tinnitus , this will drive you absolutely insane and render the headphone support useless until fixed.
- The headset plug placement is ridiculous.
I suppose, in a way, this is moot since the headphone jack doesn't even work properly, but it's still so flaberghastingly stupid that it deserves a mention. With the way they have designed this thing, the mic plugs in directly above the stick. Like....right above it. This means that you have to find a way to get the wire across the stick and up to your ear without getting in the way of your hand. The box does show a picture of some little plastic clip that you're supposed to be able to glue to the side of this thing to route the headphone cord around the controller, but I found no such piece within my box, or in another box at the store that I asked a clerk to check for me. Either way, it's just a stupid decision of engineering that shouldn't have even entered the equation.
- The cord length is pretty short.
I'm sure there are some folks for whom it won't be a problem, but for others, it means yet more money and time.
- The "break-away" cable was made too loose.
Several times my HRAP has appeared to have just up and died. And then, I discover, that it's just the weight of the cord pulling the break-away portion just enough to disconnect the socket. Not being pulled, mind you - this thing will disconnect from just hanging there. And in case you think I'm just some overly animated controller yanker - I tested it. Plugged it in firmly, left it alone for two hours, when I came back - disconnected again. Unless your Xbox/PC is already on the floor, this will be an issue. Tape or glue, it's your choice.
- This will not work with PC out of the box.
The LT and RT buttons will not be recognized by your PC for many games/programs with the default drivers. You can fish around and find solutions (XBCD), but this will involve tricking your computer to accept unsigned drivers and all sorts of otherwise unrecommendable BS. It took me two hours of time just to get this working when all was said and done, and even then it's pretty unreliable and I still have compatibility problems in a few isolated instances. Frustrating.
- The default buttons are pretty poor.
You hear alot about people replacing the buttons and things, but this has less to do with fanatacism and more to do with the fact that the factory installs are loud, clunky, and cheap feeling. Yeah, they are quick detach buttons, but having to buy new ones considerably adds to the TCO of an already expensive product. I did not purchase this product with the intention of becoming a "modder." I became a modder because this product is so poor.
Overall-
Honestly, I was pretty upset when I first discovered that the laziness of the manufacturer was going to cause me to have to open up the box just to remove the stupid protector film, but that was just the tip of the iceberg in terms of my disappointment with this product.
If this was just some $20 joystick or something, then sure. That's life.
But for the price they're charging for this thing? These types of ridiculous, avoidable problems simply shouldn't be the case.
I've seen people recommending "HRAP" for years, and frankly assumed that it was due to the high quality of the product. But this thing is just a marvel of stupid engineering, nickle and dime cost slashing, and overall inconvenience.
I'm not a stick aficionado, or someone who has extensive experience in dealing with this sort of thing enough to know whether or not this is just the way it is - but I do know, as a general consumer, that this product is not even remotely close to as "premium" as the price tag. I wouldn't even expect this type of crap from a budget box. And that's just despicable.
I've also got a preorder in for one of the MadCatz TE sticks, but I'll say this right now. If I have to spend even half the amount of time, energy, or money that I have with this HRAP, I'll either return it to the store or throw it up on ebay, and wash my hands of this whole mess.
I'm not interested in becoming that "downer" in the thread that's just looking for a place to bitch or vent - I won't bother bringing this up again or argue with those who may disagree - but I honestly think that people should have a better clue as to what they're getting into on this thing. I haven't been this disappointed with the quality of a product I've purchased in a very long time.
the androgyne
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I don't know the name of the rubber product i use (my mum bought it for me!), but i'd imagine you can find it in the kitchenware section... it's basically a non-slip mat for a dinner/tv tray, and it truly cements the joystick in place.
Hunahan said:
i just tried out the headset por and had no problems with it -- there's probably something wrong with your headset or your stick.
as for the wire clips, they were in a separate little plastic bag, taped to the outside of the plastic bag the stick was in. weird that they'd be missing from two separate boxes
Pretty safe to say that HRAPEX is the 2nd best retail stick on 360. If you're not happy with it, there's really not a whole lot to compare it to, especially in that price range. You could write a letter to Mr Hori and ask they include Sanwa buttons in every model, but I don't think you'll get a response.
I am thinking about getting another stick for 360 and want to fully Sanwa mod it. Any recommendations on which Stick would be best for this? I think the HRAP EX and Madcatz Fightstick would be quite good for this, but can t decide :-/.
Ah, nearly forgot: I want to swap art too, so take this into consideration.
Ah, nearly forgot: I want to swap art too, so take this into consideration.
A Twisty Fluken
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Manabanana said:I ordered the Amazon HRAP3. Here's a mock-up of what I wanna do with it. Puyo and Puzzle League.
I really like that design. Slick!
BillyG_3001
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They are still taking preorders for the Street Fighter IV Arcade Stick 360 & PS3 at Gameseek.co.uk if anyone is interested! 
The Tournament Edition is sold out
Apparently they are the web's favourite gamestore! (I've never heard of them before yesterday) :lol
The Tournament Edition is sold out
Apparently they are the web's favourite gamestore! (I've never heard of them before yesterday) :lol
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Both sticks have passed level one stress testing. 
Think I may put some art on my other stick sometime this week. Just can't find the right pic to match the red/white/blue button color scheme.
Think I may put some art on my other stick sometime this week. Just can't find the right pic to match the red/white/blue button color scheme.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
^^
I dunno. This guy wasn't too thrilled with it...
:lol
I dunno. This guy wasn't too thrilled with it...
Amazon.UK customer said:
:lol
I got my new King of Fighter Kungfu stick today, just in time for Street Fighter 4.
Box shot:
High res pic
Stick:
High res pic
It's nice that it has both a PS2 and PS3 connector and it even says KUNGFU on it's top left corner.
It doesn't weigh much either, which makes it a great portable choice. It's pretty amazing that they could squeeze in all those components without adding more weight.
It can't be possible to lose with this one. See you online.
Box shot:
High res pic
Stick:
High res pic
It's nice that it has both a PS2 and PS3 connector and it even says KUNGFU on it's top left corner.
It doesn't weigh much either, which makes it a great portable choice. It's pretty amazing that they could squeeze in all those components without adding more weight.
It can't be possible to lose with this one. See you online.
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