NeoGAF Fantasy Football Paypal League (Season 3)
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UberTag
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Can someone explain to me how a pay structure where an odd number of teams get money works? How does the 5th team get determined?Cloudy said:
Because I can't wrap my head around that.
I've done plenty of research but would love to have advance knowledge of my draft slot to make things easier. I've got three drafts to prep for on Sunday so I'll take as much advance knowledge as possible beforehand to make things go more smoothly.Puddles said:
Hillis, Torain and some idiot owner with an extra QB dumping Josh Freeman were the key ingredients in my unlikely 20-team league win.Puddles said:
Freeman, Blount, and Jacob Tamme were a big part of why I made the playoffs after a draft that included Pierre Thomas, Ryan Matthews, Jonathan Stewart, Brent Celek and Jay Cutler. Also, Roddy White was my 3rd round pick, and he was the #1 WR on the year.
Funny thing is I thought I made out like a bandit in that draft. :jakncoke
Funny thing is I thought I made out like a bandit in that draft. :jakncoke
Crazymoogle
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UberTag said:
Yahoo runs concurrent playoffs for their system. All non-playoff teams play to week 16 in their own "negative playoffs" to determine the final league order. (So just because you're last, doesn't mean you'll finish 16th). There are also relegation playoff matches for teams that made the playoffs but were eliminated. Exact same idea as the bronze medal game in Olympic Hockey. The winner is 3rd, the loser is 4th.
You can get a slight glimpse of the format by clicking the Playoffs tab (in Yahoo, where it says Standings/Schedule/Playoffs/All Time) and then clicking Consolation.
UberTag said:
Do you see a Season dropdown on the top of the 'League' page? If so pick last year and then pick Consolation. Basically, 5th place is the winner of the bracket formed by first round losers.
1st place - never lost
2nd place - only lost championship
3rd place - only lost semi finals, won 3rd place game
4th place - lost semi finals and 3rd place game
5th place - lost first round of main bracket, never lost in losers bracket.
Puddles said:
Sure, would be cool to get a chance to trade to my preferred spot.
UberTag
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Oh yeah, the LOSER'S BRACKET. I always forget about those.Crazymoogle said:
For some reason, I don't like the idea of a $50 prize being tied to the winner of the loser's bracket because it means those loser teams have incentive to steal valuable waiver wire pickups/free agents from people actually competing for the big prize.
I'd rather their rosters get frozen and that they can't interfere.
Crazymoogle
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Yes, W/R is WR/RB Flex. They call it that to fit within their 3 char limit.minx88 said:
minx88 said:
12th is fine, because you also get to pick 13th. So your first round pick isn't as good as the guy who picks first, but he doesn't get to pick again until pick 24. So maybe he gets Adrian Peterson, but his 2nd round guy is Miles Austin, while you get Mendenhall and Roddy White, or something like that.
So much luck involved though. Last year I took Ryan Matthews two spots ahead of the guy who took Arian Foster. I was looking at like 6-7 different ranking systems, and only 2 of them had Foster above Matthews. So yeah, that sure turned out well.
I've never had a pick in the top 6 though. I've always wondered what that would feel like.
Okay, the $50 league is full. Unfortunately I had to drop AB because he didn't sign back in even though I'd fixed the issue for 2 days. I couldn't risk having an empty spot on draft night.
We are discussing the payout and what not on the league page. I'm posting my updated proposal for 4 winners (minus $5 to cover paypal fees cos 3 of you couldn't follow simple instructions!)
We are discussing the payout and what not on the league page. I'm posting my updated proposal for 4 winners (minus $5 to cover paypal fees cos 3 of you couldn't follow simple instructions!)
The Frankman
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Now that THAT is over, is anyone willing to do a blind swap of a draft pick in any round of the draft?
How it would work is we agree to pick a round to swap picks. Cloudy (as Commissioner) oversees it and makes it official. Now I don't think he activated Draft Day trades, so when that pick comes up you'd have to tell the person who you want to pick and vice versa. After the draft is over the trade commences.
It's a rather interesting way to beat a snake draft. Imagine if you get a Top 4 pick and you make a 2nd round trade with someone picking 14th, in the 2nd round you'd get the 3rd pick... that's huge. Obviously luck is the only factor, you might wind up trading out of the Top 4. Now that's if you wanted to trade in the 1st round, you can pick any round to swap picks in. Hell if you're interested in seeing how it works but don't want to do it this year you can swap picks in the 15th-16th round for all I care. Up to you guys!
Remember, Sunday September 4 9:30pm EST is Draft Time. PM me round offers!
How it would work is we agree to pick a round to swap picks. Cloudy (as Commissioner) oversees it and makes it official. Now I don't think he activated Draft Day trades, so when that pick comes up you'd have to tell the person who you want to pick and vice versa. After the draft is over the trade commences.
It's a rather interesting way to beat a snake draft. Imagine if you get a Top 4 pick and you make a 2nd round trade with someone picking 14th, in the 2nd round you'd get the 3rd pick... that's huge. Obviously luck is the only factor, you might wind up trading out of the Top 4. Now that's if you wanted to trade in the 1st round, you can pick any round to swap picks in. Hell if you're interested in seeing how it works but don't want to do it this year you can swap picks in the 15th-16th round for all I care. Up to you guys!
Remember, Sunday September 4 9:30pm EST is Draft Time. PM me round offers!
UberTag
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Totally unrelated issue. I'm completely on board with teams playing out the full 13-week season schedule and not giving up until the very end. I'm just a proponent of the fantasy season replicating the NFL.Cloudy said:
Once the playoffs start, the teams on the outside looking in shouldn't be able to directly impact folks fighting it out in the winner's bracket. That's my philosophy at any rate.
The Frankman
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Cloudy could implement that rule for the League. Once the season ends and you're not in, no waiver moves for non-playoff teams. It'd be different if this was a Franchise League.UberTag said:
Unknown until 30 minutes before the draft.
The Frankman
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I thought I should clear up a bit of who is who so far:
*TD's N' Beer - minx88
PrimeTime - Sumidor
*Rooks - Ferny
*Sinistar - Sinistar
Hookers And Blow - Azwethinkweiz
*Puddles of Win - Puddles
*Long Island Broskis - UberTag
*Ku Klux Klams - mr2xxx
*FirstPlaceLoser - kememsi
Good As Gould - rinker
Bail Kings (NeoGAF) - Crazymoogle
Ember Island Players - GCQuinton
Dinner Out - Cloudy's relative (ringer!)
The Big Blue Crew 3 - Me
Romo Wittenhispants - acksman
Peyton's Creaky Neck - Cloudy
* - rookies to Cloudy's league
*TD's N' Beer - minx88
PrimeTime - Sumidor
*Rooks - Ferny
*Sinistar - Sinistar
Hookers And Blow - Azwethinkweiz
*Puddles of Win - Puddles
*Long Island Broskis - UberTag
*Ku Klux Klams - mr2xxx
*FirstPlaceLoser - kememsi
Good As Gould - rinker
Bail Kings (NeoGAF) - Crazymoogle
Ember Island Players - GCQuinton
Dinner Out - Cloudy's relative (ringer!)
The Big Blue Crew 3 - Me
Romo Wittenhispants - acksman
Peyton's Creaky Neck - Cloudy
* - rookies to Cloudy's league
sf2fanatic
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Puddles said:
Agreed. Thats why I limit to leagues with less than 12 so that the last 3 round im not picking up scrubs that are back ups to the back ups.
I got lucky twice doing that(P.thomas and Blount) but its tossing up coin and guessing.
Anyways good luck all in your leagues
Crazymoogle
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FAAB is definitely the fairest. Much as I like standard waivers for its simplicity, what always happens is that the top owners can squirrel away top waiver priority because they don't need to use waivers right away. FAAB ensures that everyone has a shot at the next big free agent, but also penalizes anyone who went in too big on the one before.Puddles said:
(FAAB: All players have $100 of bidding money, and can use that to secretly big on players during waivers. Want Ryan Grant after his breakout week? You just have to outbid everyone else. But if you bid $100, you've got no shot at anyone thereafter.)
Alex Anderson
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Does the $100 last you the whole season, or each week, or how does that work? Never used that before...
*half ass-edly prepares for draft at noon
*half ass-edly prepares for draft at noon
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Darren McFadden
RB: Michael Turner
WR: DeSean Jackson
WR: Dwayne Bowe
TE: Jason Witten
Flex: Santana Moss
D/ST: New York
Bench: Kenny Britt, Lance Moore, C.J. Spiller, Jacoby Ford, Ryan Torain, Matt Cassell
This team putting up their stats from last year makes the playoffs easily. It's lacking that one sexy superstar that most teams have. Thought about taking Megatron or Fitz with the 11th pick or Roddy with the 14th, but I really didn't like the RBs that were projected to be remaining when I picked again at 35 and 38, so I took the best RBs remaining. I think it worked out alright, as I got Jackson and Bowe with my late 3rd/early 4th picks. The best RBs left at those slots were Ingram, DeAngelo Williams, Cedric Benson and Jahvid Best (I'm not buying into Beanie Wells).
Didn't mean to take a defense so early, but I forgot to drag the guy I actually wanted into my queue, and it auto-picked NYG for me. Oh well.
Overall, I think I got good value at every draft spot EXCEPT my 1st, but if McFadden puts up numbers similar to last year, I'll be happy with that.
RB: Darren McFadden
RB: Michael Turner
WR: DeSean Jackson
WR: Dwayne Bowe
TE: Jason Witten
Flex: Santana Moss
D/ST: New York
Bench: Kenny Britt, Lance Moore, C.J. Spiller, Jacoby Ford, Ryan Torain, Matt Cassell
This team putting up their stats from last year makes the playoffs easily. It's lacking that one sexy superstar that most teams have. Thought about taking Megatron or Fitz with the 11th pick or Roddy with the 14th, but I really didn't like the RBs that were projected to be remaining when I picked again at 35 and 38, so I took the best RBs remaining. I think it worked out alright, as I got Jackson and Bowe with my late 3rd/early 4th picks. The best RBs left at those slots were Ingram, DeAngelo Williams, Cedric Benson and Jahvid Best (I'm not buying into Beanie Wells).
Didn't mean to take a defense so early, but I forgot to drag the guy I actually wanted into my queue, and it auto-picked NYG for me. Oh well.
Overall, I think I got good value at every draft spot EXCEPT my 1st, but if McFadden puts up numbers similar to last year, I'll be happy with that.
I changed return yards from 20 yards per point to 25 yards per point. I took a look at the stats and found that guys who return a lot were actually overvalued a bit in a fantasy sense. There were a few return specialists who were projected to outscore starting RBs, which shouldn't happen. Return yards should be a bonus, not a bread and butter stat, and most leagues that count return yardage set it at 25 per point, so I made the change.
If anyone feels strongly about this, send me an email, pm, or reply.
If anyone feels strongly about this, send me an email, pm, or reply.
Alex Anderson
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Puddles said:
You should have taken a look at this before the draft. Changing scoring rules after a draft is a HUGE no-no. People drafted based on what the rules were.
Alex Anderson
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Yes, it'd be really unfair if you didn't set it back to 20.
The Frankman
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Well the whole point is you never do a rule/scoring change post-draft unless to fix a exploited loophole.
Dammit SOMEONE better make me an offer here. Under 3.5 hours here!
Dammit SOMEONE better make me an offer here. Under 3.5 hours here!
You guys didn't look over the scoring settings thoroughly?
The goal was to make the fantasy points more accurately reflect a player's value to the team, but I really should have looked more closely at the projections. 20 yards per point is too few. It should have been 25 or maybe even 30.
I assumed everyone had looked over the settings and was fine with them, since I didn't get any messages about it. If some owners didn't even realize return yards were counted, but Alex Anderson based his whole draft strategy around it, that's a problem.
The goal was to make the fantasy points more accurately reflect a player's value to the team, but I really should have looked more closely at the projections. 20 yards per point is too few. It should have been 25 or maybe even 30.
I assumed everyone had looked over the settings and was fine with them, since I didn't get any messages about it. If some owners didn't even realize return yards were counted, but Alex Anderson based his whole draft strategy around it, that's a problem.
Looked at it again. I think it's fine. Yahoo's single-game projections are a bunch of bullshit, IMO. Hester returned 991 yards last year, which would be 49.55 points in our system. I have no idea why they're projecting him to score so many next week. No one is going to win the league with a full-time kick returner as their flex.
They're projecting Hester to put up 2000 return yards this year, which is pretty laughable. They're also projecting a guy named Eric Weems to return 2,350 yards. None of these things have any chance of happening.
They're projecting Hester to put up 2000 return yards this year, which is pretty laughable. They're also projecting a guy named Eric Weems to return 2,350 yards. None of these things have any chance of happening.
The Frankman
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