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NES Remix |OT| Not the Same Games, Not the Same Content
- Thread starter Penguin
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That is always the case.
They troll the Wii U because they do not have the system. Maybe trolling comforts them at night.
Anyway I am at work and can't d/l it yet but how are the leaderboards integrated?
"we need to do a mobile game to build up awareness of our brands with people who don't own our hardware"
"but giving people an experience that's no better than what they are already getting on their phones will do more harm than good"
"our little team can do it, instead of releasing NES games on phones, we will design a warioware like experience using bits and pieces of the old games with challenges tailored to playing on a phone/tablet"
"ok give it a shot"
a few months later
"this is fun to play on my phone/tablet, but not good enough to represent our brand, let's give it to our biggest fans who own Wii Us and watch Nintendo Direct as a holiday surprise and maybe to get them to buy some more virtual console games"
"give away? our research shows our fans will pay upwards of $15 for this!"
(now I'm off to pay my $15)
"but giving people an experience that's no better than what they are already getting on their phones will do more harm than good"
"our little team can do it, instead of releasing NES games on phones, we will design a warioware like experience using bits and pieces of the old games with challenges tailored to playing on a phone/tablet"
"ok give it a shot"
a few months later
"this is fun to play on my phone/tablet, but not good enough to represent our brand, let's give it to our biggest fans who own Wii Us and watch Nintendo Direct as a holiday surprise and maybe to get them to buy some more virtual console games"
"give away? our research shows our fans will pay upwards of $15 for this!"
(now I'm off to pay my $15)
I dont know where the actual leaderboards are but as long as Miiverse is turned on, random scores will be posted next to each individual game stage.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
I honestly think Steam sales have ruined our perception of value.
Wrestlemania
Banned
Have you played it?
SpoonyBard
Banned
The game is surprisingly fun. I'm not big fan of these old school NES games, but cut them into these bite size chunks and add some wario ware style randomness and they are suddenly fun again.
Love how some of the off topic stuff comes in the sense that Nintendo is trolling for actually making games people want.
Hardcore dork watching Nintendo Direct this morning: Zelda Dynasty Warriors? Sucks. Kirby Yoshi and Mario KART 8? Sucks. HAHAHAHA Nintendoooooooomed!!!
Wait, what this? NES Remix? I want that game, Nintendo is trolling for not putting it on the App Store...
WAAAAAAAAH MOMMY MAKE THE EVIL MAN STOP AND MAKE HIM PUT THE GAME ON MY PHONE! MAKE HIM MOMMY! MAKE HIM!!! $15 is awful. Wii U is AWFUL. Wii U is BOMBA! This game sucks! you suck! everything sucks! NINTENDOOOOOOOMED!!!!!
Hardcore dork watching Nintendo Direct this morning: Zelda Dynasty Warriors? Sucks. Kirby Yoshi and Mario KART 8? Sucks. HAHAHAHA Nintendoooooooomed!!!
Wait, what this? NES Remix? I want that game, Nintendo is trolling for not putting it on the App Store...
WAAAAAAAAH MOMMY MAKE THE EVIL MAN STOP AND MAKE HIM PUT THE GAME ON MY PHONE! MAKE HIM MOMMY! MAKE HIM!!! $15 is awful. Wii U is AWFUL. Wii U is BOMBA! This game sucks! you suck! everything sucks! NINTENDOOOOOOOMED!!!!!
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Frankly I'm not sure anymore how to estimate perceived value for Nintendo products. Attitudes have become firmly entrenched to the effect:
"Downloadable games? 5 bucks tops and LOL! NES games should be free."
"Console games? I'm paying for the knowledge that 900 people worked for 3 years with a 100 million dollar budget to create astounding graphics and presentation. Anything less isn't worth more than $30 bucks."
Then there's firesales from Steam, Amazon end of year, etc, which lead people to see $15 as equaling a AAA GOTY package even though that was you know, $60-$80 at launch.
Nintendo products are entirely out of step with this world since they tend to place polish, replayability, lasting power, and gameplay over everything else in value. And they seem to believe some things shouldn't become devalued over time, like arcade gameplay.
"Downloadable games? 5 bucks tops and LOL! NES games should be free."
"Console games? I'm paying for the knowledge that 900 people worked for 3 years with a 100 million dollar budget to create astounding graphics and presentation. Anything less isn't worth more than $30 bucks."
Then there's firesales from Steam, Amazon end of year, etc, which lead people to see $15 as equaling a AAA GOTY package even though that was you know, $60-$80 at launch.
Nintendo products are entirely out of step with this world since they tend to place polish, replayability, lasting power, and gameplay over everything else in value. And they seem to believe some things shouldn't become devalued over time, like arcade gameplay.
And that's why I've loved the company ever since I was a kid.
Mobile is generally used to mean smartphones. Say handhelds if you mean 3DS because that's the accepted term for things like that. No, there's no smart reason for either distinction, but that's what those words are generally used to mean.
Donkey Kong WITHOUT JUMPING controlled in a MOBILE PHONE ?
Are you waiting for the next batch to have Super Mario Bros 2 Lost Levels with invisible platforms or something ?
Master Remix would be awesome
mightynine
Member
He's not.
Tiu Neo
Member
That was unexpected. Downloaded the game now, and it's pretty fun!
Also, people saying those games should go mobile are insane. Can't imagine how playing most of those on a touchscreen would be better.
There's always the good part about Nintendo living in their own world: Their games are pretty unique to Nintendo.
...but I still think they could rethink some backwards policies on online to be similar to the competition.
Also, people saying those games should go mobile are insane. Can't imagine how playing most of those on a touchscreen would be better.
There's always the good part about Nintendo living in their own world: Their games are pretty unique to Nintendo.
...but I still think they could rethink some backwards policies on online to be similar to the competition.
chris121580
Member
Is this a serious post?? 15 bucks is a complete steal for the amount of content you get. Some people's perception of what games should be priced are seriously skewed.
£8.99 in the UK
Oni Link 666
Member
I wonder why Nintendo didn't make a game like this with 9-Volt sooner. And why isn't he in this game? This is pretty much what a 9-Volt game would be.
stuminus3
Member
This is wrong. I *love* the League of Evil games. I've 100% beaten the first two games. They are really, really good for what they are. But even the very best touch screen 'virtual controls' are a complete pile of arse compared to using a real gamepad, especially a Nintendo one. LoE is very playable but it's not the same thing.
I've discovered the same thing with Cave shooters recently, after being really impressed with their iPhone games the last couple of years I've gone back to the 'real thing' and found that the iPhone games are so vastly inferior, it's not even close, even though they're very very playable on a touch screen.
(Sorry, I know this isn't really the topic for this).
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Thanks for this!
This game looks great, nice way to give us a new way to play these classics. Definitely buying!
Robin64
Member
Really damn good times.
I can give you the times I got from the levels where I got rainbow stars (not that many, though):
DK-3: 0:04.4
DKJ-4: 0:21.1
Pin-1: 0:08.9
Pin-3: 0:18.0
Pin-4: 0:03.1
Ex-2: 0:25.1
TLZ-1: 0:29.6
R1-11: 0:15.7
Edit:
TLZ-12: 0:11.0
SMB-4: 0:27.6
SMB-6: 0:09.6
SMB-9: 0:16.1
SMB-16: 0:09.9
R2-16: 0:37.4
Pin-5: 0:29.1
BF-3: 0:13.4
BF-7: 0:13.5
Ex-4: 0:19.4
Bon-3: 0:41.9
Bon-4: 0:10.9
Bon-6: 1:22.0
Bon-7: 0:24.2
Bon-9: 0:28.4
Bon-10: 0:27.7
The Lamonster
Member
Two things preventing me from buying this RIGHT NOW:
-the price
-NES games are hard. I still can't do the koopa/stairs 1up trick. Is Remix maddeningly hard or is it more fair and modernized? Are there difficulty settings?
-any extra features, like Miiverse in-game integration?
-the price
-NES games are hard. I still can't do the koopa/stairs 1up trick. Is Remix maddeningly hard or is it more fair and modernized? Are there difficulty settings?
-any extra features, like Miiverse in-game integration?
Space Runaway
Member
Interesting concept though that game selection at $15 is gonna keep me far away. I look forward to future editions now that they've gotten most of the junk games out of the way.
Neuromancer
Member
Ok I just understood the thread title. Good work.
Robin64
Member
Amusingly, one of the challenges is that. (Though it positions everything for you)
Mihos
Gold Member
The Lamonster
Member
oh is it a reference to the Reggie quote about Arkham City Wii U edition?
sweetdaddyg
Member
This was made by the same team that made the GCCX games for the ds! Must buy.
Neuromancer
Member
Yep I believe so haha.
Yeah, I immediately thought you meant 3DS.
I'd instabuy on 3DS, but knowing its console only I'll wait a bit since I can't take it with me and I'll be away from home for the rest of the month.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
JeffGrubb's video convinced me I need this game (once I get a Wii U). If Nintendo's going to be stuck on rehashing their old stuff over and over, this is an awesome way to do it. It seems developmentally cheap, exhibits plenty of opportunity for great design, and has lots of potential for future remixes.
The Lamonster
Member
lol good job guys. I didn't get that at first either.
It's pretty beefy, moreso than even first impressions let on. A couple hours in and I am still working through the initial 6 games available. Each of those six has between 7-25 challenges(game specific) as well as a 23-tier "remix" tower that adds all the crazy new visual effects and wonky challenges(like beating 1-1 of SMB in a silhouette filter or a level of Mario Bros while the screen expands and shrinks). Those 23 challenges are all specific to the first six games. Each challenge is timed with up to three stars earned for efficient performance(stars unlock more challenges).
The other ten advertised and included games should unlock at some point and I presume that remix tower expands to include challenges from each(alongside each game having its own set of separate tiered challenges). For instance, Zelda, Baseball, Clu Clu Land, etc... have made no appearance yet until I presumably clear most of the current challenges to unlock them.
So yea, the $15 price tag will eke out a healthy number of hours of play.
Mobile and Steam sales fucked up videogames' value. On one hand this is very good because it's cheaper for us and forces publishers to adopt a more fluid pricing structure. On the other hand, it devalues games with higher budgets that need a higher price and it leads to situations like these where 10 or 15 bucks becomes too much for the game.
HeisenbergLannister
Member
Hope we get DLC for this (SMB3, Kid Icarus, Metroid, Punch-Out, Kirby, etc.) and maybe even a SNES version?