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New Hunter x Hunter Anime |OT| of Hunters and adventure and NO MANGA SPOILERS
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Hypemaster
Member
The name of the other version of Alluka (the one with the pitch black eyes and mouth), the subs translated it as 'something'
That's a weird translation if it's actually a name.
The translations surrounding Nanika make absolutely no sense. Nanika translates to "Something", but that needed an onscreen info box, not a permanent replacement.
Hypemaster
Member
Yeah I'm not sure if the translators made a mistake and took the name as the literal meaning or if that was the original intention of the author. It did bug the hell out of me though since I'm sure many people wouldn't think Killua was calling Alluka by another name.
Japanese viewers didn't need an onscreen info box.
We're talking about the sub, so....
heliosRAzi
Banned
Well, to the Japanese, it's just "something." Not an especially unique word to describe what it is. It is mundane.
I believe my point still stands? Why would English speaking viewers need more information than Japanese viewers, here?
Nibel x Hunter 139
Did Killua just reveal that he can basically use a wish that is similar to a if/else query in programming?
IF we don't leave the mountain in one and a half hours THEN kill mother
ELSE give me a kiss on the cheek
Seems like nobody else than him knows that? Wonder what else he knows.
All in all, a slow episode and again unnecessary flashback borders, but still pretty good stuff and a lovely final picture. And then there is Pariston with a new idea how do push the voting towards the ending. Dude becomes more and more the most terrifying person on the show for his weird behaviour..
Did Killua just reveal that he can basically use a wish that is similar to a if/else query in programming?
IF we don't leave the mountain in one and a half hours THEN kill mother
ELSE give me a kiss on the cheek
Seems like nobody else than him knows that? Wonder what else he knows.
All in all, a slow episode and again unnecessary flashback borders, but still pretty good stuff and a lovely final picture. And then there is Pariston with a new idea how do push the voting towards the ending. Dude becomes more and more the most terrifying person on the show for his weird behaviour..
Nanika is "something" in japanese, not an name.
I mean, really?
???
Again: why would English speaking viewers need more information (like an onscreen info box) than Japanese viewers?
As far as Japanese viewers are concerned, Alluka's other personality is referred to as "Something". Same thing for English speaking viewers. So what's the problem?
Because you keep "Nanika" as the name, and explain in an info box that "Nanika" translates to "Something".
Pegosaurus
Banned
it really is quite blatant
Doesn't Killua refer to it as Nanika in the manga? I would consider Nanika a name for all intents and purposes, regardless of the fact that it translates to something.
edit: this is more n reference to hypemaster's quote
probably because Nanika sounds like a name, and doesn't sound like Something
... Why?
I'll just point out that Killua has another sibling whose gender is somewhat ambiguous, and that we're talking about a world with supernatural powers (even the power to grant any wish). I can see other possibilities, from weird family rules to supernatural sex change.
Depends on the translator.
But it's a rather important fact, here: they call that second personality "Nanika" precisely because of what "nanika" means. So translating the word simply makes sense, here, in my opinion.
To someone who doesn't understand Japanese, I guess it might, but that's why we have translations. ^^;
heliosRAzi
Banned
Why keep it Nanika when it is just as mundane to the Japanese as Something is to us English-speakers?
Nanika fits into the vowel/syllable pattern established for Killua's family, which haven't been altered in translation.
No, it doesn't. It just has the same number of morae. Lots of names have three morae.
Pegosaurus
Banned
ShaoranWright
Member
Killua himself said that he considers black eyes Alluka to be something, then he decides to name it "something". I can't understand the big deal about this.
Pegosaurus
Banned
Kurapika also is gender ambiguous by appearance, Kalluto has nothing to do with this.
Killua refers to Alluka as a she, while the rest of the Zoldycks refer to her as male. Alluka is definitely biologically male, so the best inference is that Killua knows her well enough to know she likes to identify as female.
I'm not disputing the fact that translating the word doesn't make sense. I guess it makes more sense to me to leave Nanika as the name because I don't speak japanese, so it sounds more like a name to me.
Not following you, there... The only pattern I know of in that family is the one regarding Killua and his siblings: three morae, the middle one is "ru" (transcribed as "llu"), and the remaining moare follow a shiritori pattern.
i - ru - mi - ru - ki - ru - a - ru - ka - ru - to
"Nanika" doesn't fit.
How do you know?
How do you know?
heliosRAzi
Banned
Hunter x Hunter Anime: Name Conventions and Japanese Translations
Hypemaster
Member
Yeah, helps me associate the two different Alluka better
Pegosaurus
Banned
oh I see what you mean
I was more referring to the fact that the names ended with consistently similar vowels, not the pattern of the syllables themselves
why would kalluto be involved. I mean it's possible, but i don't see why.
and because killua is the only zoldyck who refers to alluka as female. he doesn't refer to nanika as female, only alluka. why would all the other zoldycks, including alluka's mother and father, be mistaken about this?
Note that I'm not arguing that's definitely the case (I don't know), but I think it would be a bit odd to discard right off the bat the possibility of a connection when a given character has two younger siblings with ambiguous genders.
I don't remember Killua using any gender-specific terms for Something/Nanika, actually... I'd have to check.
It wouldn't necessarily be a mistake. As you said, Killua refers to Alluka as a female, and the rest of the family doesn't bat an eye. Maybe they disagree, maybe they're in denial...
What I mean is that I believe there would be other possible scenarios, and I don't think it's a good idea to jump to conclusions at the moment.
Pegosaurus
Banned
Yeah I mean I could be wrong, but I think at the moment it's the best explanation
also I don't think Killua refers to Nanika with gender specifics either, but I think it's because he differentiates Nanika and Alluka as different beings. Alluka to Killua a she, and Nanika is an it
Dominican Power
Member
When did they use Nanika to call the other half of Alluka?
What do you mean?
Dominican Power
Member
I'm asking where in the anime did they start calling her that?
Ah right. Typo?
Killua is the only one that does that, so who knows how long he's been doing that.
Letterbomb
Banned
Just finished Greed Island arc... No Chrollo still... And next arc is about ants? When does Chrollo come back guys? I don't think I'm up for watching more if he doesn't lol.
well then you probably should tune out now.
Why does it matter?
Jigolo
Member
Chrollo is awesome but if you're going to skip the one of the best arcs in anime history just because he's not involved, it's your loss
He doesn't.
Leorio and kurapika are written out as well.
They'll all return, eventually, I'm sure. But in the manga, not the anime.
DualShadow
Member
I wonder how much control Alluka has over the requests, if any. Can she make them easier for Killua since she likes him?
Because it's confusing.
I guess they could have called it "Thing" maybe. Personally I'm more comfortable with using Nanika here because it's clear cut who I'm talking about, but there's no way they weren't going to translate it.
If you mean to say it's weird that it was split in 2 episodes, I think it works better this way because Alluka's ability gets the full creepy introduction without overloading people with subtleties, just an overview of the core concepts of the 3 requests and the wish.
HxH makes a point out of exploring rulesets and logic in their full scope and limitations (because it's a huge part of why characters act the way they act). The subtleties of the rules like how Alluka can't pester people whose name she doesn't know, or that she can't switch to a different person, or how the requests' difficulty resets after deaths, all that stuff needed to be layered out. It's already a complicated ability and if they explained all of that in a single explanation I imagine a lot more people will post that they didn't understand it.
If you mean to say it's weird that it was split in 2 episodes, I think it works better this way because Alluka's ability gets the full creepy introduction without overloading people with subtleties, just an overview of the core concepts of the 3 requests and the wish.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
LOL my thoughts exactly.
metalmonstar
Member
I enjoyed the episode. I wonder why no one acted surprised when Killua made a conditional wish. Did we happen to see "Something's" face when the wish was made. It could be that Killua was bluffing.
Is the next episode the last one for the anime?
Is the next episode the last one for the anime?
Milluki did.
Pegosaurus
Banned
Milluki and Silva both expressed surprise when Killua made the wish, and we did see Nanika when he made it. His wish was even granted, did you watch the end of the episode?
No the next one isn't the last one