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New Matrix Trilogy Supposedly in the works
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Don't know where they could possibly take the story after the first trilogy but I am okay with this.
Edit: On second thought I think I would much rather see a TV series instead of a trilogy. Give me 2-3 quality seasons of a Matrix show on HBO or something
They would be able to cover a much larger story with a TV series instead of running through everything too fast in what would be most likely a prequel trilogy.
Edit: On second thought I think I would much rather see a TV series instead of a trilogy. Give me 2-3 quality seasons of a Matrix show on HBO or something
They would be able to cover a much larger story with a TV series instead of running through everything too fast in what would be most likely a prequel trilogy.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
I could stomach another trilogy if only for some cool action sequences and new special effects. Screw the story. Do it!
Nolan can't shoot action like the Wachowski's all of his films have had some very dodgy action sequences very 'flat' imo.
The Wachowski followed the Kung Fu cinema filming style wide open shots, no quick cuts the actors trained as hard as they could to be able to do the moves and the wire work which is absolutely exhausting, it's all there on the screen. I want to see that sort of dedication again.
I would like them if they had to choose a director to look at someone like Joe Wright. 'Hanna' had he same sort of ethos all there on the screen, one shot fight scenes. amazing stuff.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
They should just stop after the first new film. Like they should've done with the old films.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
A real big live action recounting of the machine war leading up to the first matrix would be pretty fuckin cool. One of my favorite scenes in a movie ever (sad as the rest of the flick could be at times) was the conversation Neo has with the King of the Machines towards the end of Revolutions. The effect of all the nano-ish bots making up his baby face, his rage/gentle attitude swings, his no bullshit honesty and dat grin... all superbly done for a completely digital and minor character.
Show me the machine city 01 and how it grew and the violence starting with the world stage as a backdrop in 1 - show the beginning and turn towards machine dominance in 2 - show the machines mopping up, the first matrix and the birth of the resistance/First Zion in 3 and there ya go...
Show me the machine city 01 and how it grew and the violence starting with the world stage as a backdrop in 1 - show the beginning and turn towards machine dominance in 2 - show the machines mopping up, the first matrix and the birth of the resistance/First Zion in 3 and there ya go...
Messypandas
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A machine war prequel only works if humans are shown as the bad guys.
Anyway that stories been told, I'd rather they move forward. Open with Zion being nuked.
Anyway that stories been told, I'd rather they move forward. Open with Zion being nuked.
I don't see how there's anyway one could say that about the first one. It was pretty freakin ground breaking in 1999 and still holds up well today.
Anyway, I welcome another movie (or even trilogy). Yeah Revelations sucked, but the original is excellent and Reloaded is good (enough), so I'm cool revisiting the world, etc.
Sectorseven
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Dusk Soldier
Member
If it's a prequel, I can't wait to see people pit this against the star wars prequels.
I really hope they don't do a prequel though, they almost never work.
I really hope they don't do a prequel though, they almost never work.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I don't want a prequel... I want it to be set in the Matrix, but at the level of the common man, not The One.
Start the film with the conceit that this is the real world. We all know it's The Matrix, but a new protagonist doesn't, and the film should play with that. We will see his/her life, and how it's unsatisfactory, just as Neo's was.
The protagonist would break out of the Matrix, not by being yanked out by Zionites, but through self-mastery. If the first one was about other people coming down and telling you that you are Jesus, this one would be more like the quest of the Buddha. This is a person who begins to suspect that the pleasures of the Matrix are unsatisfactory and illusory, and rejects them in search for a higher reality. He/she is inspired by rumors of a religious figure before him: that being Neo.
Of course, it's not about a guy meditating in his room. There would be characters and events in his life that dramatize this quest for "spiritual" realization and escape from the Matrix. And once he does begin to break free, of course he does attract the attention of Zion and the Agents. You can get to the kung fu and gunplay just the same.
In this way, I think they could explore the most interesting aspect of these films, which is the way that the Matrix is a metaphor for everyday, mundane reality. The original trilogy of films spent about 30 minutes exploring that before Neo was yanked out to become Kung Fu Jesus. This was why several of the Animatrix shorts were so compelling.. putting us back into the Matrix from the perspective of the everyday person living within it, slowly awakening to the mystery.
Start the film with the conceit that this is the real world. We all know it's The Matrix, but a new protagonist doesn't, and the film should play with that. We will see his/her life, and how it's unsatisfactory, just as Neo's was.
The protagonist would break out of the Matrix, not by being yanked out by Zionites, but through self-mastery. If the first one was about other people coming down and telling you that you are Jesus, this one would be more like the quest of the Buddha. This is a person who begins to suspect that the pleasures of the Matrix are unsatisfactory and illusory, and rejects them in search for a higher reality. He/she is inspired by rumors of a religious figure before him: that being Neo.
Of course, it's not about a guy meditating in his room. There would be characters and events in his life that dramatize this quest for "spiritual" realization and escape from the Matrix. And once he does begin to break free, of course he does attract the attention of Zion and the Agents. You can get to the kung fu and gunplay just the same.
In this way, I think they could explore the most interesting aspect of these films, which is the way that the Matrix is a metaphor for everyday, mundane reality. The original trilogy of films spent about 30 minutes exploring that before Neo was yanked out to become Kung Fu Jesus. This was why several of the Animatrix shorts were so compelling.. putting us back into the Matrix from the perspective of the everyday person living within it, slowly awakening to the mystery.
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The Everyman
im excited for same reason as you. it's an incredible world to explore in more films.
Spehornoob
Member
I read this news this morning and then watched all three movies today.
The second and third are pretty bad on their own, but work a lot better when viewing the entire trilogy.
The second and third are pretty bad on their own, but work a lot better when viewing the entire trilogy.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
They should of called them Matrix Reloaded PT.1 and PT.2.
They are the same film in my view.
Wind's Howling
Member
Fine by me as long as we can get more fighting scenes like in Reloaded and Revolutions. As great as they are, the cgi and animations look incredibly dated.
Nothing1016
Member
Even if the movies are atrocious I'll pay a fine sum of money for a new trilogy. Just give me some more mediocre Keanu Reeves acting..... At least a cameo.
I'm actually fine with having no returning characters. Treat it like a reboot.
angular graphics
Banned
Fake / Bullshit.
Guaranteed recipe for failure.
I like the idea of Zion/ruined earth as another layer of Matrix much better.
Wiktor
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Robot Pants
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Atraveller
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I want to see Paul Greengrass as the director, all those shaky cam Kung Fu fight scenes all blurry as hell, that would be hilarious.
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AdventureRacing
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The hobbit isn't quite the same as bond/batman or whatever else they were listing. It's not a reboot or remake or anything. It's a completely separate story that was written before the LOTR (if i remember right lol).
Whilst in general i agree with them i'm not sure this should rule out a new matrix trilogy all together. The universe really hasn't been nearly fully explored, there are so many interesting concepts that could be used to make new movies. It may also be a way for the wachowskis to ensure more funding for future new projects that they want to do.
Whilst in general i agree with them i'm not sure this should rule out a new matrix trilogy all together. The universe really hasn't been nearly fully explored, there are so many interesting concepts that could be used to make new movies. It may also be a way for the wachowskis to ensure more funding for future new projects that they want to do.
andthebeatgoeson
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angular graphics
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I agree the inclusion of The Hobbit was unfair. They could have said instead the same thing about the splitting of The Hobbit to a trilogy.
To me it makes no sense that they are preparing a new Matrix trilogy while they are also in the process of developing a Jupiter Ascending trilogy (with part 1 already shot).
I mean let's read the article:
Ok, so their next $$$ expensive movie will most certainly flop and Warner thinks the best thing to do is to trust the same guys to make another $$$ expensive movie? How does that make any sense?!
This early? What about Jupiter?
SporeCrawler
Member
i would be okay if it was more like 1 or animatrix.
2 and 3 were horrible
2 and 3 were horrible
angular graphics
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Fortunately the directors are as sick of them as you are. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=102842570&postcount=235
I watched 2 & 3 when they were new once and have never watched them since. Can't even remember a lot of the story but I know I wasn't impressed. The first one however I watched dozens of times back in the day, it's one of my favourite sci-fi films of all time. If this is done properly it could be incredible.
User Name Here
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Yeeeaaah this could end up being the case. Especially since the 2nd and 3rd movie wasn't as good as the first.
vagabondarts
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Hope it's better than the last one. Interested to see what more there is to do with it. Not gonna lie, if they can pull off a compelling story without repeating tropes of the first one too much it could be awesome
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
I think this could work; it would need to be different enough from the original films to stand more on its own, but the trickiest part will be to still convey a sense of a zeitgeist state/psychological paranoia and nihilism the original (and to a lesser extent the sequels) did so well. This one could take a more subtle approach to that, it just can't be too subtle.
Also, and this is just a personal thing, but they better not try to make it PG-13. I hate Hollywood for doing this trend; a lot of old franchises being brought back seem to get nerfed, and it's just annoying. Robocop being the latest victim. Movies like The Matrix are mass-palatable, but to an extent, and I think the first movie did as much taming of offensive material as possible while still staying true to itself and the cyberpunk setting. Not that it was even that violent, just maybe more conceptually sophisticated for thinking adults.
Which actually worries me even more they'll gun for a lower rating, or at least stupify most of the high-end concepts so more people can understand (immediately ruins any depth the film would of had).
Count Dookkake
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Maybe this time the dumb robots won't create a fictional reality in which humans have an understanding of computers.
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