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New model GBA SP?

Argh I'm not buying another one of these, I got my DS and my NES SP. Nintendo's not getting anymore of my money!
 
OOC, why on Earth would they even do this? Did they not realize it has the potential to majorly cut into sales of the Micro? It seems like such an odd choice to make, right before launching Micro. Unless maybe the profit margins on backlit SPs are really high?
 
New SP and Micro probably are identical in screen brightness, most likely because they're the same screen from the same provider.

Nintendo probably scored a deal on LCDs and decided to upgraded the old GBA SP at the same time. That way they could order GBA SP/Micro screens in bulk.

Aside from the few of you who already bought a Micro in Japan or whatever ... really this is a good thing.

If you wanted a Micro to play GBA SP solely for the screen quality, now you have a better option at a lower price. The Micro is still smaller, sexier, and customizable (GBA SP Famicom model is cool, but the GBA Micro Famicom is much better looking), so its up to you as to which one to get.

Maybe you guys in Japan got screwed this time, but you guys usually get all the cool stuff and usually get it first, so tough :)
 
soundwave05 said:
New SP and Micro probably are identical in screen brightness, most likely because they're the same screen from the same provider.

Nintendo probably scored a deal on LCDs and decided to upgraded the old GBA SP at the same time. That way they could order GBA SP/Micro screens in bulk.
The screens aren't the same size.
 
john tv said:
OOC, why on Earth would they even do this? Did they not realize it has the potential to majorly cut into sales of the Micro? It seems like such an odd choice to make, right before launching Micro. Unless maybe the profit margins on backlit SPs are really high?
because nobody except the people who post on this forum and people who like them will notice and care, and it probably streamlines production or something, cutting out frontlit screens, as well as providing a better user experience for anyone who buys an SP here on out.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
The screens aren't the same size.

But they're likely from the same provider and manufactured at the same assembly line.

I don't think Nintendo was even planning this, the LCD manufacturer might have just offered them an all around sweet deal if Nintendo agreed to give them both Micro and SP orders.

Mass production. Happens all the time with consoles (look at how many PS2 models there are).
 
Man.. this seals the deal, I'm getting an SP! the last gameboy i bought was a GB Color, and I still have a bunch of old classic GameBoy and GBC games I still want to play. And try as I might, I still haven't found a better alternative to the original GB Tetris =)
 
TerryLee81 said:
Any release date for that GBA SP+ for Europe? Is it only available in US at the moment?
The first I heard about this was on Monday and that's because it was in the IGN Gameboy mailbag. I doubt there'll be an announced release date for Europe, it'll probably just show up there like it did here.
 
john tv said:
OOC, why on Earth would they even do this? Did they not realize it has the potential to majorly cut into sales of the Micro? It seems like such an odd choice to make, right before launching Micro. Unless maybe the profit margins on backlit SPs are really high?


I'm guessing it's because the LCD manufacturers don't make the sidelit ones anymore. It's probably more efficient to have the same technology across teh board (the main difference, afterall, is the position of the light).

I'm wondering if I should pick up all of these 9micro adn new SP). It was one thing to be a GameBoy line collector, but it's really somehting to be a GameBoy ADVANCE collector....

My MAJOR disappointment comes from GAF. As I've stated before I use it as basically a videogame news hub. I always stated the moment (and often I mean MOMENT) news is released it appears on GAF. Yes, that has happened in this case, but where were the rumours?
 
Wow, the new SP screen winns on all fronts. The new screen looks fantastic.

Will be picking one up with the new Fire Emblem.
 
Nintendo is smart. This is a way to get money out of people who weren't going to get Micro. So what if it cuts into Micro sales? Nintendo gets the money anyway.

I wasn't going to get a Micro due to the tiny screen. I prefer the DS or GBA SP for GBA games. My black GBA SP has been a workhorse. I've got an extended battery in the thing! Now I find out I can get another black SP with a backlit screen for $79.99... probably $10-15 less depending on sales. Sold!

Hell, I was going to get my mom an SP along with Dr. Mario / Puzzle League for Christmas anyway. The new SP totally seals that idea. She's been playing Pokemon Puzzle Challenge on a GBC for years. No way I'd saddle her with a tinier screen. Backlit just sweetens the deal.

Woot!
 
I think Nintendo is simply doing this because they don't view the Micro as a replacement for the GBA SP in the same way that the SP was a replacement for the old GBA. They're fully aware some people will be turned off by the tiny screen, so this way they can keep everyone happy.
 
Some numbers:

By my calculations, Micro is 2.66 sq. in. displayable, where SP is 3.88 sq. in.

This makes the SP screen a 46% increase over the Micro screen.
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Some numbers:

By my calculations, Micro is 2.66 sq. in. displayable, where SP is 3.88 sq. in.

This makes the SP screen a 46% increase over the Micro screen.
Good... GOD.

And here I was... thinking it was a slight improvement!

WHY NINTENDO! WHYYYYYYYYY
 
Bah, this is why I hate when companies rush things to the market. Luckily, I'm not a big handheld gamer, and the only portable system I've ever owned is the DS. But the principle still really pisses me off.

I'm really hoping this SP, SP+, SP+_+ phenomenon will not be present in the next set of Nintendo handhelds (and, God forbid, home consoles).
 
Mihail said:
I'm really hoping this SP, SP+, SP+_+ phenomenon will not be present in the next set of Nintendo handhelds (and, God forbid, home consoles).
It already is, and has been for some time. PlayStation, PSOne, PlayStation 2, PStwo, the GC redesign that left the system sans digital output, the various PS2 redesigns between PlayStation 2 and PStwo that removed ports, the various PSX redesigns between PlayStation and PSOne that removed ports, Saturn redesigns, front and top-loading NES, redesigned SNES, etc...
 
Yeah, but for the vast majority, those things don't affect the system's features, you know? Not to mention that size and shape redesign plays a huge part in a handheld, while not so much in a home console.

EDIT: I guess port removal/addition does affect features, but a small percentage of the total userbase makes use of harddrive, digital out, etc.
 
jooey said:
New SP at low brightness:
noo_gbaA.jpg

New SP at high brightness:
noo_gbaB.jpg


As you can see, the new one really makes itself known. It's even better than the DS -- probably on par with the Micro but I don't have one yet.
Words can't express my bemusement. Talk about slipping it under the radar...

Screw the Micro -- reissue this in the NES style. Gargh!

I wonder if the molds have changed (I'm guessing yes, unfortunately). If I could just get the new guts into my NES SP...

Edit: I was sure this was a joke thread for the first seventeen posts.
 
When did they annouce new colors, anyway?

I think I may hold off to see if any retailers have any good limited edition colors for the holidays (as they have the past couple years)... Really hoping for a Torchic-less orange one.
 
Count me as another person who thought this was a joke thread.

soundwave05 said:
Except for the fact that of course the DS has way more games coming out and way better games coming out and online play coming to boot. The GBA SP from a library stand point doesn't have much in the way of new software coming.

DS > GBA SP backlit > Micro > GBA SP

But as far as GBA games go, the DS's significantly shorter battery life makes the backlit SP the winner.
 
jgkspsx said:
I wonder if the molds have changed (I'm guessing yes, unfortunately). If I could just get the new guts into my NES SP...

Just got off the phone with Nintendo of America Customer Service.

Yes, the molds have changed, so there's no way Nintendo will upgrade older SP models with the backlit screen. So much for the NES SP being the ultimate :(

As for why this is such a quiet thing, the rep claimed that the new SPs shipped early and weren't slated for another few weeks.
 
Thanks goodness I'm such an unshakable holdout that I still only have original reflective GBAs.

There are too many options now,

Font lit SP, Back lit SP, Micro, DS, GBA player

Micro's price makes it unnatractive for what you're getting.
Style over function.
 
Well, this certainly has made me confused and hesitant about buying a DS, which I was planning on doing some time in the next couple weeks for the release of Castlevania. Surely if Nintendo are getting package deals with their new LCD screens, these will find their way into the DS before too long? Although I'm guessing it'll be much more difficult to ascertain a DS+ from a regular DS, since they can't say "New Backlit Screen!" on the box.
 
More like
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Bojangles said:
Wow Wyzdom.. Seems everyone is stupid except you... and yet you are the one who was wrong.

Suck it up and eat some crow.
internet tough guy for the win
 
15 years after sega released the game gear. game boy finally gets back lit

Gameboy and Lynx backlit weren't active matrix screens and really looked worse than the old SP...terribly contrast, and streaking.

Now, Turbo Express had a fantastic screen.
 
Prospero said:
But as far as GBA games go, the DS's significantly shorter battery life makes the backlit SP the winner.

Plus, the GBA portion of the screen on the DS is significantly smaller than the SP's screen. This is why I can't play GBA games on the DS, it's just too small for me (which is why I know I'll hate the Micro).

GBA SP+ FTW.
 
To those of you bemoaning this:

If a TV manufacturer finds a way to improve their screens, should they not do so in fear of angering the people who have already bought one of their TVs?

I'm of the opinion that if a company can better a product, they should.
 
I really don't see the issue. Nintendo is updating the GBASP for the better with no price increase at all. And they do it at the same time the Micro is launched which is way better than to actually wait a couple of months (to sell a shit load of Micros) and then release it.
 
Errr, I don't see what's the fuss here? Isn't the present GBA SP perfectly well-lit and all? You mean that when it's totally dark, games can't be played on the SP?

I don't get it. What's the difference between backlit and frontlit?
 
Shig said:
To those of you bemoaning this:

If a TV manufacturer finds a way to improve their screens, should they not do so in fear of angering the people who have already bought one of their TVs?

I'm of the opinion that if a company can better a product, they should.
we're entitled to be pissed off that we paid for the inferior version.
 
Scrow said:
we're entitled to be pissed off that we paid for the inferior version.

To those complaining about this issue, why don't I see a similiar outcry when Nintendo released the SP to replace the original GBA? Isn't that even more deplorable?
 
holy shit, really? i have an extended warranty on the last sp i bought. i can get the new backlit model for freeeee. fuck off, big uncomfortable ds!
 
Scrow said:
we're entitled to be pissed off that we paid for the inferior version.
You bought the best version available at the time... but you pays your money and you takes your chances. Products are prone to evolve over time, if a better product can be made, it should be.
ElyrionX said:
To those complaining about this issue, why don't I see a similiar outcry when Nintendo released the SP to replace the original GBA? Isn't that even more deplorable?
LOL, haven't been around long, have ya? I think that's a much different situation, though... they're not raising the price any for this, and really it's more an improvement on an already-standard feature. IMO, it's more relatable to when Sony put out the PS2+ with a built in IR remote and DVD-R playback.
 
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