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New model GBA SP?

No, I meant from a graphical capability perspective. I don't think N64 technology for portables in the size of the DS was possible in 2001 at the current price.

When it comes to mindshare, then yes.

I think they're in different generations within one huge generation, but that's me.
 
Link316 said:
they're not stupid, they know exactly what they're doing which is why they've kept quiet about this

Let's say they are opportunist but with no honnor. What is honnor in capitalism anyway?
The GB Micro is already quite popular and it's gonna sell for one main reason: cool image.
IMAGE. Fucking image. It's like the tards buying 39867490687 cellphones a year BECAUSE there's a new model and it actually does the same fucking things as his/her last 39867490686 others. They buy it because it's new, cool looking or smaller. In the phone business, they did teach people to pay, and pay, and pay, and pay --- and people did. They are freakin brainwashed.
Someday yes the videogame industry will be this sick. And Nintendo have no shame leaning towards this mentality.
The GB Micro is useless. It's for shallow people that want a "cool" new gameboy.
 
Being utterly pessimistic you could always say the N64 was already five years old when the GBA was released, and looking at the relation between the PS2 and PSP, an educated consumer could expect at least a similar amount of power from a similar product. The only reason Nintendo didn't slap together a portable N64 in 2000 is because they were still the only dog in the handheld game.

If there was ever an example for the argument of hardware stagnation due to monopolistic practices, it's Nintendo.

Why give consumers more for their dollar, when you can give them something cheap and they'll be none the wiser.

Assuming the bottom doesn't fall out of Sony's handheld plans, the portable market will surely become a more interesting place to game.
 
Wyzdom said:
It's for shallow people that want a "cool" new gameboy.

Erm, so? Please tell me you haven't just figured this out.

Nintendo is a business, not a charity. If people buy it, they'll make it.
 
Some of you people are needlessly overreacting like whiney bitches. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
 
Polari said:
Erm, so? Please tell me you haven't just figured this out.

Of course i did not figure this out just now. I know ALOT about business and in many industries.
This does not change my opinions on those business practices. I'm against this way of thinking and that's all. You talk like if i'm supposed to believe in something because everybody does it.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Nintendo doesn't seem to be making a whole hell of a lot of sense lately anyhow. >:|

And right after I took the plunge and bought that fuckin' NintenD00DS to play Sigma Star Saga. Thanks you motherfuckers. Nintendo is officially on my shit list for this portable debacle. The NintenD00DS being the third piece of portable hardware I've purchased from these pricks this generation alone.

Release one god damned piece of hardware, and make god damned sure it blows my fucking mind!

Christ, if there were some news of this before hand I would have just held off.

PSP ahoy! And I really hope Sony can make in-roads into the portable market so the stench of Nintendo Abuse of Power™ won't be so suffocating. >:|

Wow, so, like, who held the gun up to your head and said"You must buy every piece of hardware we release!" Was it Iwata or Miyamoto?
 
Lol. Just plopped a Black GBA SP Bundle (including 2 games) on eBay. Time to sell that old badboy and replace it with the new one!
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Nintendo doesn't seem to be making a whole hell of a lot of sense lately anyhow. >:|

And right after I took the plunge and bought that fuckin' NintenD00DS to play Sigma Star Saga. Thanks you motherfuckers. Nintendo is officially on my shit list for this portable debacle. The NintenD00DS being the third piece of portable hardware I've purchased from these pricks this generation alone.

Release one god damned piece of hardware, and make god damned sure it blows my fucking mind!

Christ, if there were some news of this before hand I would have just held off.

PSP ahoy! And I really hope Sony can make in-roads into the portable market so the stench of Nintendo Abuse of Power™ won't be so suffocating. >:|

Just wait for PSP SP. :)
 
Can't fucking believe some of the whinings on this thread. They're improving over an existing product, but it's not like they're charging you more for it.

And why people are upset that the GBA Micro is/will be selling well? Did anyone from Nintendo point a shotgun to your face to make you buy the damn thing?
 
Mejilan said:
Some of you people are needlessly overreacting like whiney bitches. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

I don't think people are whining because they don't like it, but because this is what Nintendo should've originally released
 
Man, when the GBA SP first came out EVERYONE was as pleased as punch. I don't recall reading any review or comment on a forum grumbling that the screen was front lit when it should have been back lit.

So what if Nintendo decides to use somewhat updated and readily available new screens to quietly update an older product?

If you JUST bought a new GBA SP, go and return the damn thing at the store, and exchange it for one of the updated ones. If you just bought a DS, well the wtf? You can now play the shit-ton of GBA games out there on a fantastic screen, plus all of the great DS games coming out.

If you just bought a Micro, well fucking enjoy the better screen (looks better than the DS and SP both, updated or not) and has a headphone adaptor as well (something even the new SP lacks.)

I just don't see the reason for the whining.

Hell, I'm selling my old Japanese import black SP + 2 GBA games I don't really care about, and I'll probably be able to pick up a brand new, improved SP with little or no money out of my pocket! Yeah, this after just having bought a Micro as well, on Monday! They're not that expensive!
 
Link316 said:
I don't think people are whining because they don't like it, but because this is what Nintendo should've originally released

People forget that technology is leaping forward at a rapid rate. Now you get an improved product at a cheaper price then when it was first released.

People that are complaining should also complain that their TV set is getting a redesign and improved model every year, that computers are getting faster than the one they just bought after merely few months, that their '04 car has flaws that the '05 doesn't.

I, for one, am happy with this news. I originally wanted to buy a Micro for the backlit screen, but because of the high price, I opted against it. Now I have a cheaper option, so the winner is me.
 
Jade Knight 08 said:
I may gonna to wait it out next year (after E3 '06) and cuz i have a feeling Nintendo might pull another stunt.

3 Possibilites:

Brighter screen for NDS
NDS sleeker version
GBA Next.

I'd say the third option is unlikely, because I still don't belive Nintendo is making another gameboy, i think the micro was it.

But the sleaker NDS seems entirely possible.
 
Well the backlit screen was the breaking point for me.. I went to the store after work and bought one of these new models (charcoal grey). I must say it is awesome. I thought it was bright and clear, until I noticed the extra button at the top, which makes it so bright I worry about battery life =)

So now I finally own a Game Boy Advance after all these years.

What should I buy? Any suggestions? With the system, I bought Zelda: Minish Cap, Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission... I guess that will hold me over for a while =)
 
argon said:
What should I buy? Any suggestions? With the system, I bought Zelda: Minish Cap, Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission... I guess that will hold me over for a while =)
ADVANCE WARS I & II

IMMEDIATELY
 
Mejilan said:
Man, when the GBA SP first came out EVERYONE was as pleased as punch. I don't recall reading any review or comment on a forum grumbling that the screen was front lit when it should have been back lit.
That's weird, because I can. Then again, I can't recall if you were around GAF then.
 
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My comparison shots, including both screens of the DS.
 
BuddyC said:
That's weird, because I can. Then again, I can't recall if you were around GAF then.

Ummm... not many complained?

Back then, I was a lurker, not an active poster. I think I started posting around the time my Black Japanese GBA SP import came in. WHICH IS NOW ON SALE!!

I'm shameless, I know. ;)
 
xsarien said:
Wow, so, like, who held the gun up to your head and said"You must buy every piece of hardware we release!" Was it Iwata or Miyamoto?
It was probably Yamauchi, you don't say no to that man if you know what's good for you. :lol
 
sportzhead said:
CVXFREAK
Which screen looks better, the new SP or the Micro?

I personally prefer the micro's because the smaller screen gives it a sharper look. But the SP's size shouldn't be ignored either.

Between the two handhelds, I'll give it to the micro as well because of the headphone port.
 
i cant believe i actually played GBA games on the vanilla GBA. i played mine again recently and i couldn't see shit

thanks for the (ultimate) comparison pic...you should have gotten a PSP and load Pokemon on there with GBA emulator :P (or whatever the hell that game is)
 
Mejilan said:
Man, when the GBA SP first came out EVERYONE was as pleased as punch. I don't recall reading any review or comment on a forum grumbling that the screen was front lit when it should have been back lit.

True, for the most part. I read a few comments about it not being backlit (because earlier handhelds like Lynx, TurboExpress, and Game Gear had backlit screens), but the vast majority of people accepted the front lighting solution anyway (especially since you could disable it if it wasn't needed, to extend battery life).

I'll admit that I very rarely turned off the light, except when playing outdoors in bright sunlight.

Mejilan said:
So what if Nintendo decides to use somewhat updated and readily available new screens to quietly update an older product?

See, if there was only the GBASP and no such thing as DS or Game Boy Micro, then I don't think there would be much complaining. However, what Nintendo has done here with the GBASP v2 affects their entire handheld product line. Read on and I'll explain why.

Mejilan said:
If you JUST bought a new GBA SP, go and return the damn thing at the store, and exchange it for one of the updated ones. If you just bought a DS, well the wtf? You can now play the shit-ton of GBA games out there on a fantastic screen, plus all of the great DS games coming out.

If you just bought a Micro, well fucking enjoy the better screen (looks better than the DS and SP both, updated or not) and has a headphone adaptor as well (something even the new SP lacks.)

I just don't see the reason for the whining.

This is the problem, and this is why a lot of people are complaining about Nintendo right now. They have no focus. They appear to be in their "Sega 1994-1995" phase, where's they're flying anything they can up the flagpole just to see if people will salute.

It was already confusing enough for consumers, with the DS that could play GBA games, but had no multiplayer support for them, and could not play GB/GBC games at all. Then you got the Game Boy Micro, which could play GBA games with a better quality screen than either GBASP or DS, but smaller, and couldn't play GB/GBC games.

Now we have the GBASP v2, which has a better screen for GBA games than either the DS or the GBM, and can also play the GB/GBC games. It's also cheaper than both the DS and GBM. This makes GBASP v2 the ideal solution to play GBA games.

There's virtually no reason to buy a GBM now. It costs $20 more, has a tiny postage stamp of a screen, and it doesn't play GB/GBC games. The only reason to get it is if you're really cramped for space, but I doubt many people are in such a situation where they can pocket a GBM but not a GBASP.

There's also no incentive to buy a DS if you're mainly interested in playing GBA games on it, since it's bulkier than the GBASP and can't link up for multiplayer games (thus the kids who love those Pokemon games still need to keep their old GBA or GBASP around just to link up with their friends).

Even more ironic is the fact that the DS is Nintendo's top-of-the-line handheld from a "power" perspective, but has the lowest-quality screen of their entire handheld product line. This brings us to the next question:

When does the new and improved Nintendo DS v2 come out, featuring "BRIGHTER backlit screens" on it?

I'm willing to bet Nintendo makes this announcement soon...oh, let's say around the second or third week of January. Why? Well, look at when they announced the GBASP in 2003, and the DS in 2004. They waited until the holiday shopping season was over, and most retailers' return periods were up, so people couldn't return their newly purchased (but soon to be comparatively obsolete) handhelds to the stores. It's like, "Thanks for buying our new system...wait a moment, we've also got an even newer one coming in a few months! We hope you'll buy that one, too!"

That's why if I were in the market for a DS (something I haven't ruled out buying, with the new Castlevania and a few other games that I might want coming out soon), I'd be leery. I don't think I could buy a DS, knowing Nintendo's recent history of frequent revisions to their handheld hardware. At this point, I'd just rather wait it out and see if Nintendo really does announce a DS v2 soon. I'd advise anyone else considering a DS purchase to do the same, too.
 
Mejilan said:
Ummm... not many complained?

Back then, I was a lurker, not an active poster. I think I started posting around the time my Black Japanese GBA SP import came in. WHICH IS NOW ON SALE!!

I'm shameless, I know. ;)

Posting and then suffixing it with :lurk: :lurk: :lurk: doesn't classify as lurking. :lol
 
Well, we all knew that the DS SP was inevitable. Q2 2006 at the latest, I suspect.

As to the rest... I say good on Nintendo. Unless I'm mistaken, this GBA SP v2 was a bit of a silent release. They obviously are pushing the Micro (as they should, the fucking thing is pure sex), but those out there that need a GBA solution that is fully backwards compatible now also have a better option, with an ideal (for a GBA) screen. And a cheaper price.

People don't NEED a GBA SP, GB Micro, AND a DS. They can make do with 2, or even 1. But having the options out there? Well, why the hell not? It's only a matter of time before the GBA SP (v2) drops to $50 anyway, and then the Micro to $70, and the DS to $100. About the time we see the DS SP for $130 or $150, I'd say.

Not all of us are nuts (like me) that has to own them all! :D
 
Matlock said:
Posting and then suffixing it with :lurk: :lurk: :lurk: doesn't classify as lurking. :lol

That's metsallica, not Mejilan!! I really did lurk. I think one of my first posts here ever, was, in fact, to ask what the different lights on the GBA SP meant. Since I imported (instead of waiting for a Black SP US release), and had a Japanese manual, I wasn't too sure what the green and orange lights signified... particularly when charging!
 
CVXFREAK said:
Mejilan, would you mind selling me your box and instructions only? :D

(I kinda want a Japanese box for my collection =/)

I'd like to, but I've already set up the auction, and I can only imagine that I'll get more via eBay if I offer a 'complete' package. The packaging IS very cute though. I kinda regret selling it myself, and replacing it with the uglier American packaging (NEW BRIGHTER SCREEN!!) Sorry...
 
Mejilan said:
I'd like to, but I've already set up the auction, and I can only imagine that I'll get more via eBay if I offer a 'complete' package. The packaging IS very cute though. I kinda regret selling it myself, and replacing it with the uglier American packaging (NEW BRIGHTER SCREEN!!) Sorry...

Got an auction link? :D
 
CVXFREAK said:
:D

Fire Red
Fire Red JPN
Leaf Green
Leaf Green JPN
Emerald
Emerald JPN
Ruby
Ruby JPN
Sapphire


is that what you have in each of your GBA's?

Also:
from ign:


The updated GBA SP's screen is now on par with the Game Boy Micro, at least in brightness and clarity. But it's not perfect -- the refresh rate is a tad slower than the classic GBA SP and Game Boy Micro screen, so there's an ever so subtle "blur" when objects move or the screen scrolls. The color saturation is also a little stronger -- reds are particularly more powerful on this screen than in GBA past. But the trade-off is well worth it, and the updated screen makes SP gaming far more enjoyable, both in low and high lit situations.

I'm sure it's not bad, but it's something.
 
Fuzzy said:
So have you guys registered your GBM's at Nintendo's site? I don't have one but I have. ;)

Registered it back on Monday.

CVX, can you not find a copy? WTF man? ;p
 
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This is the problem, and this is why a lot of people are complaining about Nintendo right now. They have no focus. They appear to be in their "Sega 1994-1995" phase, where's they're flying anything they can up the flagpole just to see if people will salute.
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No way. This is just a design revision. Hardware and functionality is the same, and it still plays the same games. If Nintendo can update their design and benefit the consumer, then they should at any given opportunity.

The Audio/Video Industry works this way as a whole. New products are made every year to replace the old, regardless if significant new features are added or not. And yeah, you could look at a Sony TV, an Ipod, or whatever and decide to wait a year for the next revision but then you wouldn't buy anything.

The GBA SP2 is simply a hardware update. The GB Micro is an even more portable design to play GBA stuff if people want it. There is no splitting the market. There is no confusion for consumers. There is nothing but more options for people that what them.

Problems can arise when new hardware plays a different set of games, but Nintendo has had no problems with the DS so far either. So stop whinin and start buyin :p
 
Wario64 said:
i cant believe i actually played GBA games on the vanilla GBA. i played mine again recently and i couldn't see shit

Sometimes when playing my SP, I'll turn the light off and go "What the fuck? I used to play like this?!"
 
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