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New Pirates of the Caribbean 5 trailer spoils major character return

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Platy

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How can it be a spoiler if it's in the trailer?

Spoiler culture is just getting silly now.

Depends on how you define a spoiler, there have been trailers that LOTS of stuff.

Like from the Soylent green famous plot twist to the infamous BvS that tells the whole story to the classic Amazing spider man that shows the literal last frames of the movie

This is an info that have been kept from all the 2(maybe 3) usa trailers till now. It is a japanese trailer that is showing 2 seconds if the character.
 

Alienous

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It could be a flashback, right? So that doesn't even make it a narrative spoiler. It's just "so and so appears in the movie" with no further context. And it was in a trailer.

It pains me to say it but maybe Bobby Roberts is on to something when he talks about spoilerphobia.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
They already spoiled Orlando Bloom in another trailer, so this is like whatever.

That's not the same thing at all. Bloom was announced as being part of the cast almost two years ago. As far as anyone knew until now, Keira was not in this movie.

In fact, I honestly think the quick scene we see of her in this trailer might be from the very end of this movie.

So I'm not going to get into the whole spoiler debate but if only Disney Japan decided to show this in the trailers, that kind of sucks.
 

zeemumu

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Cool?

I mean, it's not Barbossa walking down the stairs at the end of the 2nd one. Now THAT was a return worthy of not being spoiled
 

zeemumu

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Now for the real question. When the hell are these two coming back?!
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Pretty sure the entirety of the Pearl crew except for Jack, Barbossa, Jack, and Gibbs are dead. Barbossa only survived Blackbeard because he cut off his leg to escape.

How can it be a spoiler if it's in the trailer?

Spoiler culture is just getting silly now.

There are some legitimate spoiler trailers, like Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Terminator Genisys, but overall people tend to go nuts to the point of not watching trailers at all because they want to go in completely fresh.
 
Remember when At Worlds End was about the evil Empire trying to end piracy forever because freedom? Yeah that was such a bullshit plot.

I will say this feels like it flashes back to maybe when Jack asked Davy Jones to bring the Black pearl up from the depths. Would be cool to see. I bet that Spanish Captain destroyed the Pearl and Jack asked Jones to bring the Pearl back. He did and Jack got away cheating death and the Captain isnt happy.
Just a theory.
 

Aesthet1c

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I feel like this thread could have just been titled "New Pirates of the Caribbean trailer has major spoiler" instead of spoiling that someone significant is going to return to the series (which I have a pretty good guess now who it would be).
 
Cool?

I mean, it's not Barbossa walking down the stairs at the end of the 2nd one. Now THAT was a return worthy of not being spoiled

I freaked out when I saw that. I completely missed the foreshadowing earlier in the movie.

Pretty sure the entirety of the Pearl crew except for Jack, Barbossa, Jack, and Gibbs are dead. Barbossa only survived Blackbeard because he cut off his leg to escape.

Well, Marty is back. The only guys we're missing are Pintel, Ragetti, and Cotton.
 
I would love to see the return of Davy Jones. Plus he has one the greatest bad guy themes that just screams "regret and longing" with a mix of insanity in my opinion.

The GOAT
Cool?

I mean, it's not Barbossa walking down the stairs at the end of the 2nd one. Now THAT was a return worthy of not being spoiled
Now that was an amazing mind blowing moment for me. I had NO idea that was coming.

I kinda wish that I still had a lot of those moments of complete surprise when it came to reveals or twists. It's harder to do that now thanks to me being more assimilated into the internet.

The last time I felt like that was when I watched Your Name.
 

zeemumu

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I feel like
Elizabeth
should look older than they do in that GIF. The only one who seems to age in this series is Barbossa.
 
Depends on how you define a spoiler, there have been trailers that LOTS of stuff.

Like from the Soylent green famous plot twist to the infamous BvS that tells the whole story to the classic Amazing spider man that shows the literal last frames of the movie

This is an info that have been kept from all the 2(maybe 3) usa trailers till now. It is a japanese trailer that is showing 2 seconds if the character.

One thing I would argue that is worth considering in these types of discussions is that we are clearly missing context here. I mean, sure, maybe the person putting together the international trailer went rogue here and decided to drop a bombshell in one of the most boring ways possible. Or maybe this is just "Thanos is in Guardians of the Galaxy" all over again and the information you're being "spoiled" on really isn't as noteworthy or interesting as you might initially suspect.
 
This whole time I thought the young guy was the missionary from Pirates 4...

This series sure has a type of young, handsome British dude.
 

bengraven

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Fuxking love the OT I'm not going to lie.

I'm assuming this amtakes place at he end of Will's time as Davy Jones comes to an end?
 
On almost every occasion, I'll resoundingly criticize anyone who uses the hyperbolic terms like "trash" and "garbage" to dismiss certain movies, but if there is any series of movies that actually deserve that term, it's the later Pirates of the Carribean movies. After Black Pearl (which in itself was an entertaining, relatively tight swashbuckler), each film got progressively more ponderous, insanely convuluted, grotesquely bloated and shallow, always servicing the blandest of bland characters as they race around like under-written cartoon characters collecting an unending plethora of shitty Maguffins whilst battling a load of CG wank.

Mark Kermode is dead-on in regards to his seething hatred of that series.

Pirates 2 > Pirates 1
 
I'm surprised they were able to get her back given that she's not interested in big franchises anymore. I guess the dumptruck of money Disney placed at her house was huge.
 

Zoe

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I mean, I don't know much about the whole Pirates-verse, but didn't Davy Jones get all grody because he neglected to do his duty of ferrying dead people's souls to the afterlife? I guess Will's a slacker, too?

Yeah, that kind of bums me out. He was perfectly fine during their first 10-year reunion... :(
 

Squalor

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I'm more surprised by the fact that people are still interested in this series than by her being in this movie.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
I thought he was free from service after faithfully serving for 10 years?

I thought so too, but then who takes up the role after that?

People have argued about that for a while. This is from the Disney Wiki regarding what happens after the post-credits scene in At World's End:

What happens afterwards is controversial. Some say that Will was freed from the service on the Dutchman because Elizabeth remained faithful to him, while others say that he must sail the seas for all eternity.

So it looks like he's not freed from the service, since the new movie takes place something like six or seven years after At World's End as their son is now a teenager. And in that time, has stopped bringing souls to the other side since his face is all fish-ified.

So with On Stranger Tides likely taking place about a couple years after At World's End, does that mean the Black Pearl has been in the bottle for like 14 years or something now?
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
In the trailer? Not a spoiler.

Eh, I think it's understandable here. They have specifically made a point not to show her in any of the marketing. All of it. Until a random Japanese trailer showed her for a split second.

If the marketing in North America makes a point to not show her in any of the commercials leading up to the release -- especially considering her appearance is very likely nothing more than a cameo -- it's understandable that someone would consider this a spoiler.

(Not to you, I know.)
 

Slaythe

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That actually got me excited. Not that I liked her much but she was crucial.

I have a good feeling about this movie. Especially with the new leads.
 

bengraven

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Wait...so this is after the end credits of Worlds End?

Because he was free...they confirmed it and the lore made it clear.
 
She's said she wasn't returning several times, and western trailers have kept this Hidden, so Disney Japan kinda have spoiled the surprise.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
is the 4th film worth watching?

Found it far more watchable than 3. But keep in mind it is still a -really dumb- film with the occasional bout of cringe to suffer through. Visually gorgeous though and some of the stunt work is alright.
 

firelogic

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I wouldn't say it was a spoiler. More of a marketing decision to show people that X character is going to be in the movie to draw in audiences.
 
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