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[Mr-Joker]

So err who want to bet whether or not Ash will win the Alola league? ;p

In terms of popularity? Yeah

In terms of viability in competitive? Eh, thats looking to be Primarina. Water/Fairy is a BS typing.

Steel is neutral, limiting Bullet Punch
Aqua Jet won't do shit
Ice Shard won't do shit
Mach Punch won't do shit
Vacuum Wave won't do shit
Sucker Punch won't do shit
Knock Off won't do shit

So the ugly ducking ends up be a viable competitive swan, assuming her stats and move pools supports it.

 

[Already Torn]

More likely this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stilt-owl


They also had long legs like Decidueye

They're adorable, shame they're all dead.

Owls are traditionally associated with death anyway though, yeah?

 

[OmegaSmash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOene8nLWn4 - Blue's new encounter music

Is that a remix of his encounter theme? I love how arrogant it sounds.

 

[tenderbrew]

Honestly can't believe so many people are low on Popplio line.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Honestly can't believe so many people are low on Popplio line.

Considering it's gonna be a competitive beast, it will have its fans. It's the wrestler who is the underdog, but he will fight the good fight!

 

[Conan-san]

Wow did premarinena get the short end of the stick Unique Movie wise. I guess it's fine due to it's fairy type (and thus being a Dramon Destroyer) but yikes.

 

[PK Gaming]

Priority will probably be around as usual, but teams weak to Priority now have options to beat around it. Outright negating certain moves for a set period of time is a nasty ability as shown by the primals.

Totally. I can see Hyper Offense in particular benefiting from this. But overall? Their prominence won't be affected all that much by it. Psychic Terrain won't be a band aid for priority moves.

 

[Neoleo2143]

"Still Silent as Ever, Red huh?"

Bwaha, I love silent Protagonist Jokes.

 

[Already Torn]

Wow did premarinena get the short end of the stick Unique Movie wise. I guess it's fine due to it's fairy type (and thus being a Dramon Destroyer) but yikes.

I'm thinking it might be so powerful that the burn reduction balances it out or something.

 

[OmegaSmash]

Wow did premarinena get the short end of the stick Unique Movie wise. I guess it's fine due to it's fairy type (and thus being a Dramon Destroyer) but yikes.

It's mainly there to beat out Flame Orb.

 

[KingBroly]

Deck-id-eye? Is that how you say it?

 

[Already Torn]

Deck-id-eye? Is that how you say it?

Deh-sid-yu-eye

Deciduous + Eye

 

[QisTopTier]

So the ugly ducking ends up be a viable competitive swan, assuming her stats and move pools supports it.

Spoiler

Aurora Veil: Halves the power of physical and special moves for 5 turns.

 

[Debirudog]

Considering it's gonna be a competitive beast, it will have its fans. It's the wrestler who is the underdog, but he will fight the good fight!

I too, am in love with Tiger Mask regardless of competitive standing.

 

[Kinsei]

Deck-id-eye? Is that how you say it?

I assume that it's a play on the word deciduous. If so then it would be pronounced des-idju-eye

 

[KingBroly]

Deh-sid-yu-eye

Deciduous + Eye

Oh, okay

 

[papertoonz]

this thread requires more dapper owl

 

[Carl7]

First gen I want all 3 starters in my team.

 

[Siege.exe]

I'm gonna need to see some receipts before people start declaring Pooparina to be a "competitive beast". Azumarill is a beast because of Huge Power and its movepool, Pooparina is gonna need a lot of coverage moves, adequate bulk, good Sp.A, and a good hidden ability to be worth anything.

 

[PK Gaming]

I think Fairy might be weak to Ghost now

Think about it

Fire & Dark > Grass & Ghost > Water & Fairy

Fairy would totally have it coming too

I'm gonna need to see some receipts before people start declaring Pooparina to be a "competitive beast". Azumarill is a beast because of Huge Power and its movepool, Pooparina is gonna need a lot of coverage moves, adequate bulk, good Sp.A, and a good hidden ability to be worth anything.

Type: Fairy / Water

 

[SinCityAssassin]

And thus a collective sigh of relief from the fire starter players.

 

[snow in jamaica]

Blue should really be wearing blue in the localized versions.

I like how Red just has his own name on his shirt.

Primarina is lovely.

 

[Matticers]

alright changed avatar to show my support

If you feeling like a pimp, go and brush your shoulders off.

 

[Amani]

Ok, so we have:
-Sniper Owl
-IT'S NOT FIRE FIGHTING!
-Popplio joins Chickorita for most adorable starter evolution line
- RED AND BLUE.
-Cynthia's back too!
-Wally still best rival.
-More tiki pokemon

I wasn't hyped at all for this game initially, but...fuck it, this is how you win me over. I'm weak, I don't give a fuck.

 

[Already Torn]

this thread requires more dapper owl

What a nerd.

Anyway, I know we're all focused on the starters, but I'm a big fan of Tapu Bolo. Look at this guy, he has a grass type Super Fang too. What a baller.

The only groups of weird mini legendaries I like are the Legendary Birds and Legendary Golems, so it's nice to be digging all of these guys after those dumb old men and even worse stupid fairy things.

I like the fish a lot as well and am pretty solid on Koko, but I have no idea what the psychic one is supposed to be so I don't like it. Any guesses?

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Also

If Decidueye is supposed to be Greninja-level, why wouldn't it have a signature ability like Greninja?

 

[Siege.exe]

I think Fairy might be weak to Ghost now

Think about it

Fire & Dark > Grass & Ghost > Water & Fairy

Fairy would totally have it coming too



Type: Fairy / Water

Uh, okay? Still looking for those receipts.

 

[OmegaSmash]

Anyone find it weird how the JP trailer just dumped Red and Blue in, while the US trailer gave them a bit more build up? The JP trailers are usually way better edited and filled out, so it stuck out to me.

 

[LSauchelli]

I think Fairy might be weak to Ghost now

Think about it

Fire & Dark > Grass & Ghost > Water & Fairy

Fairy would totally have it coming too



Type: Fairy / Water

It does makes sense, when you look at it like that. I wonder what other change might there be. Ghost is not exactly in need of a boost.

 

[Astral]

Red should've come back swole.

 

[PK Gaming]

Uh, okay? Still looking for those receipts.

Fairy a.k.a one of the most brain dead, stacked types in the game paired with Water, a top tier defensive type mixed in with the usual benefits that Water types get isn't good enough for you? Really? It needs the barest minimum to be good.

 

[papertoonz]

Also

If Decidueye is supposed to be Greninja-level, why wouldn't it have a signature ability like Greninja?

because Greninja doesn't have a signature ability

 

[tenderbrew]

I must say Decidueye might be the worst name they've ever come up with. Very awkward.

 

[Siege.exe]

Fairy a.k.a one of the most brain dead, stacked types in the game paired with Water, a top tier defensive type mixed in with the usual benefits that Water types get isn't good enough for you? Really? It needs the barest minimum to be good.

There isn't a single Fairy type in OU that doesn't rely on a mega evolution, an ability, or both. Being part Fairy doesn't guarantee usefulness if that Pokemon doesn't have other tools that compliment it.

 

[Debirudog]

To be honest though, this is the one of the rarer gens that actually has all three starters that I actually like.

The last two gens were kinda iffy.

 

[zroid]

Yah I'm really liking all the Alola Guardians. They look real unique with designs that reflect Alola. It's cool.

I think the Water one is my fave

 

[SliceSabre]

Saw this on Smogon forums

And Gamefreak continues the tradition of pokemon that can be openly hostile and/or fatal to humans.

 

[Sandfox]

I'm gonna need to see some receipts before people start declaring Pooparina to be a "competitive beast". Azumarill is a beast because of Huge Power and its movepool, Pooparina is gonna need a lot of coverage moves, adequate bulk, good Sp.A, and a good hidden ability to be worth anything.

The typing in general is good and provides good coverage.

 

[Spiritreaver]

Dark is my favorite type, but they keep slapping it onto the the starter I like the least. I don't like ninjas or cats.

Good thing Ghost is my #2.

 

[Geminosity]

Primarina looks great in motion, I knew from the leaks I was going to pick it as my starter anyhoo but it's nice to see :3
Though I guess now we know the names some peeps are going to have to update their artwork:

I love TopLel, uh, Tapu Lele. The way it peeks out from it's shell is adorable.
Not feeling fini as much as I thought I would, but that works out because it means it won't be fighting with Primarina for my water slot :3

Cosmog is pretty cute

 

[PK Gaming]

There isn't a single Fairy type in OU that doesn't rely on a mega evolution, an ability, or both. Being part Fairy doesn't guarantee usefulness if that Pokemon doesn't have other tools that compliment it.

Hate to break it you, but every single Pokemon in this game relies on a combination of moves, forms, abilities, stats and typing to be "good." Hence the reason why people are excited for Primarina's potential. It has one of the absolute best type combinations you could possibly ask for. That's straight up one less thing for it to worry about right off the bat.

 

[Already Torn]

Hate to break it you, but every single Pokemon in this game relies on a combination of moves, forms, abilities, stats and typing to be "good." Hence the reason why people are excited for Primarina's potential. It has one of the absolute best type combinations you could possibly ask for. That's straight up one less thing to worry about right off the bat.

People are acting like it's a sure thing though when all we know about it is that it's signature move is kinda dumb.

 

[Siege.exe]

The typing in general is good and provides good coverage.

The typing is good, doesn't necessarily mean the Pokemon it's attached is good as well. Again, until we see its movepool (because it will need more that Water and Fairy moves to be useful), stats, and hidden ability (because it sure as heck isn't climbing the charts with Torrent), it's wayyyyyyyyy too soon to treat it as if it's already a competitive contender.

 

[Korosenai]

https://twitter.com/Negromonogatari/status/791639486673412096

Cool pic but just reminds me how boring Samurott was. Wasted potential.

 

[WrenchNinja]

I just love how much they hype up Red and Blue

"Battle Legends!"

Even the official site hypes them up so much

The Battle Tree—Where Strong Opponents Await
Somewhere in the Alola region, you’ll find the Battle Tree: a place where those Trainers who have completed their island challenge—or who are strong enough to have done so—battle one another. All of the Trainers you can encounter at the Battle Tree are strong. It seems you might even encounter two battle prodigies from the Kanto region...

 

[UberTag]

I must say Decidueye might be the worst name they've ever come up with. Very awkward.

You must be pronouncing it wrong. I think it sounds mighty cool rolling off the tongue.
Say it with me now... Duh-sid-jew-eye.

 

[PK Gaming]

People are acting like it's a sure thing though when all we know about it is that it's signature move is kinda dumb.

 

[Siege.exe]

Hate to break it you, but every single Pokemon in this game relies on a combination of moves, forms, abilities, stats and typing to be "good." Hence the reason why people are excited for Primarina's potential. It has one of the absolute best type combinations you could possibly ask for. That's straight up one less thing for it to worry about right off the bat.

Gee, it's almost as if I said that exact thing in my initial post. Weird

People are acting like it's a sure thing though when all we know about it is that it's signature move is kinda dumb.

This is the point. Let's see what it can actually do first before we start acting like it'll be an undeniable beast.

 

[QisTopTier]

Honestly I wouldnt be shocked if it's second ability was either Synchronize, Swift Swim, or something new

 

[Fireblend]

I agree with Siege. It clearly is the best looking/designed starter ever, does it really have to be a great Pokemon competitive-wise too? It's gotta have some drawback, right?