First off, Calm down, I'm not trying to pick a fight.
Second, I could not give less of a shit how long you've been playing competitively. I know players who literally started 3-4 years ago, and are literal Gods at this game. Sit down!
Third, the point I've been trying to make all this time is how much disproportionately better Azumarill (and other Pokemon like Clefable) are with Fairy as a sub-type. You're acting like a bunch of key things fell into place for Azumarill become amazing, but it was Fairy type that mainly propelled it forward. Give Fairy-type to literally any competent Pokemon and you'll see immediate results. And that's what this dispute comes down to. You're underestimating just how good of a typing Fairy is.
And finally, Blastoise and Swampert aren't trash. Not good for OU, whatever, but most Pokemon aren't due to power creep. But that's besides the point, since they absolutely have good movepools.
I'm sorry, but I'm tired of having to repeat myself. Fairy typing
alone, as the sole addition a Pokemon receives, does not instantly make it great. I never said that it doesn't make things better, it's just not as universal of a boon as you're making it out to be. Yes, a bunch of key things
did fall into place to make Azumarill great, it's silly to say otherwise. It has base 50 attack and speed, which is abysmal. Its HP is its only genuinely good stat, as its defenses are mediocre at best. Without Huge Power and the moves to adequately utilize it, Azumarill would not be in the position it is now. Clefairy already saw a considerable bump in usage when it received Magic Guard, as it already had fairly decent defensive stats and, all be it a very critical weakness, it only had one in Fighting. Fairy pushed it over the top, but
just becoming Fairy is not the whole truth as to why it is now used. Fairy is good, very good, that's undeniable. But acting like it's instantly producers killers isn't being very fair to all of the other things those Pokemon either gained or already had that allowed them to become good. All I was saying was that it wasn't smart to immediately assume Water/Fairy = greatness when we know absolutely nothing else.
Blastoise and Swampert are both outclassed in their roles by several other Water Pokemon who have better stats, abilities, and moves than them. They're pretty trash when you could be using other semi-bulky Water types.
Oh yeah, and no, I'm not going to "sit down" just because you know some schmucks who are good at the game. I brought up how long I've been playing because you condescendingly made it seem as if I have no idea what I'm talking about. That is simply just not the case, and was totally uncalled for considering I'm asking for you to do something as simple as waiting for more information to be available before making a claim.
