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New Pokémon Sun & Moon trailer revealing the final starter evolutions & more

Takashi

Member
Was def not expecting that ghost typing. I almost considered switching to Rowlet but I think I'll stick to Popplio. I really liked the little details too like Primarina going full on Medusa during her attacks.

Real megatons were Red and Blue tho. Hopefully they haven't blown their load revealing things like this and that there's plenty more story stuff in the games to surprise us.


lmao Persian looks ridiculous. Tbh I'm slightly let down by Alolan forms as a whole. Very neat concept, but I have no idea why it's only Kanto Pokemon. And then out of that already small pool of 150, we get stuff like that Persian. And then two whole alolan forms get wasted on the damn Rattata line ffs.
 
Yeah I guess that's fair, though honestly I think its an awesome play on the word. But it is hard to get across in text.

Decidueye is still awkward as hell, though.

I feel like once you understand how Decidueye is actually meant to be pronounced it sounds pretty, but it definitely looks awkward and deciduous is really not a common word
 
Yeah I guess that's fair, though honestly I think its an awesome play on the word. But it is hard to get across in text.

Decidueye is still awkward as hell, though.

I actually think it's okay, though it could be so much better.

I'm guessing Robin Hoot would have been too much, but I would have actually loved that as its official name.
 

Zetta

Member
I gotta say that this is the first time in a long time that I just love all three starters. I already plan on using all three during my adventure. Seeing Red/Blue is awesome and I love the small attention to detail they gave Red with his jeans being slightly worn out.
 

Strimei

Member
I feel like once you understand how Decidueye is actually meant to be pronounced it sounds pretty, but it definitely looks awkward and deciduous is really not a common word

Yeah I know what its derived from, but it still feels awkward to me. Maybe after using it a while I'll get used to it and it'll flow easily but I'm still finding myself stuttering (mentally) when trying to type it out or think about it.

I nickname all my 'mons in any event so its not like I'll have ot remember it much, I suppose.
 
First off, Calm down, I'm not trying to pick a fight.

Second, I could not give less of a shit how long you've been playing competitively. I know players who literally started 3-4 years ago, and are literal Gods at this game. Sit down!

Third, the point I've been trying to make all this time is how much disproportionately better Azumarill (and other Pokemon like Clefable) are with Fairy as a sub-type. You're acting like a bunch of key things fell into place for Azumarill become amazing, but it was Fairy type that mainly propelled it forward. Give Fairy-type to literally any competent Pokemon and you'll see immediate results. And that's what this dispute comes down to. You're underestimating just how good of a typing Fairy is.

And finally, Blastoise and Swampert aren't trash. Not good for OU, whatever, but most Pokemon aren't due to power creep. But that's besides the point, since they absolutely have good movepools.

Dude. DUDE. I literally just fucking said this. Azumarill without Fairy typing is worthless. Azumarill without Huge Power but with Fairy typing is better, but still pretty damn worthless. Azumarill with BOTH is good. Not with one or the other, both. Along with it's strong movepool (Blastoise and Swampert are trash, get out of here). Typing alone does not. Mean. Shit. I've been playing competitive since I was 8, so no, I have a "strong grasp of strong typing that is". It's good. Very good. Can it do it all on its own? Hell no. There's nothing in the game that proves otherwise. Get out of here with that condescending bullshit.
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Yeah I like Robin Hoot too. At the very least RobinRoot if you want to keep the grass connection there

Also it's not like Pokémon is shy of naming things after specific instances of real people or characters or being very blunt. The Hitmons and Mr. Mime are good examples but those were Gen I which had pretty wonky naming conventions anyway.

Some modern examples I guess would be Delphox (I'm going to count this as a specific reference to Delphi even though it's true and could be argued that the root has usage outside of specific references), Abomasnow (going to count since it's clearly a reference to "Abominable Snow Creature"), Relicanth (not a character but basically "relic" plus "celocanth" which is its irl name), Tirtouga (specifically references Tortuga; Carracosta probably has a reference too but I don't know it), and Clawitzer (references howitzer).

My point is that Robin Hoot may be kind of on the nose and too close to a reference to an existing character's name, but we've had stuff referenced in names before. Though I admit it being close to Robin Hood is kinda tricky probably for legal reasons (maybe?) and too blunt.
 

Rurunaki

Member
Dankest Lariat..

Liking the Alolan theme so much (a bit bias since I'm from Hawaii). Gar..Persian will find a home in my team. Still curious as to what ultra pokemons are going to be.
 
Real megatons were Red and Blue tho. Hopefully they haven't blown their load revealing things like this and that there's plenty more story stuff in the games to surprise us.

If nothing else...

(leak spoilers)
the public has been shown less than half of the Ultra Beasts. And if the theory about the UBs corresponding to and being connected to individual Alolans is true, there are some goddamn bombshells coming along that line.

I'm really not worried about them "blowing their load". Sun & Moon are shaping up to be utterly gigantic games for generation-starters.
 

Strimei

Member
My point is that Robin Hoot may be kind of on the nose and too close to a reference to an existing character's name, but we've had stuff referenced in names before. Though I admit it being close to Robin Hood is kinda tricky probably for legal reasons (maybe?) and too blunt.

I don't think there'd be any legal problems. Robin Hood's a folk character, no one owns the rights. And even if someone came up with them, the first reference ot a Robin Hood is from the 1300s, and copyright would be well past expired then, heh.
 
I don't think there'd be any legal problems. Robin Hood's a folk character, no one owns the rights. And even if someone came up with them, the first reference ot a Robin Hood is from the 1300s, and copyright would be well past expired then, heh.

Yes, remember that copyright only lasts for around 70 years before something passes into the public domain (well, unless you're a huge corporation like Disney and keep fighting to keep rights to your ancient characters). Robin Hood passed into the public domain centuries ago, that's why there are so many books, movies, etc. that use the character.

Fun fact: the spate of Sherlock Holmes stuff over the past, oh, thirty or so years is because he entered the public domain a few decades ago!
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Primarina looks great in motion, I knew from the leaks I was going to pick it as my starter anyhoo but it's nice to see :3
Though I guess now we know the names some peeps are going to have to update their artwork:



I love TopLel, uh, Tapu Lele. The way it peeks out from it's shell is adorable.
Not feeling fini as much as I thought I would, but that works out because it means it won't be fighting with Primarina for my water slot :3

Cosmog is pretty cute :D
That artwork is fantastic
 

Strimei

Member
I wonder if there will be a way for me to have a Rowlet and a Froakie. I never got to play X so I want to use one.

Wouldn't be hard to get one off the GTS trading system.

Just put somtehing decent up and you should get it. I typically get something in return for things like the starters (I breed a new one to give out).
 
Wouldn't be hard to get one off the GTS trading system.

Just put somtehing decent up and you should get it. I typically get something in return for things like the starters (I breed a new one to give out).
This May not be possible at launch since we don't know if ash greninja can breed and pokebank compatability won't be added until later
 
That artwork is fantastic
Yup yup. reminds me a lot of the little mermaid posters disney had :3

Wouldn't be hard to get one off the GTS trading system.

Just put somtehing decent up and you should get it. I typically get something in return for things like the starters (I breed a new one to give out).
But only if you're willing to wait until January when the Bank can finally be used with Sun and Moon? :p
 

lotufo

Neo Member
Honestly, I'm disappointed GF didn't make Incineroar Fire/Fighting.

He's supposed to be a Heel, right? As in someone made to be the villain, right? Another Fire/Fighting starter would be automatically hated by everyone. He would be the perfect Heel. A meta-Heel, if you will.

Hope nobody takes this seriously
 
Why no one ever talks about how Red isn't even the strongest character "lore" wise? Cause like you know, you wreck his shit in the sequel and in the remake. I hope the true strongest trainer, Ethan is also in the game so my mc in gen7 becomes the new best trainer :)
 

Teknoman

Member
I was not expecting adult red and blue, wow! If they are just getting into building the league there, I wonder if that means direct sequel confirmed? Unless it's the first Pokémon game with a time skip. Inciniroar looks great though, and I'm glad we got some new types for starters.

Also Doshin return lol.
 

Village

Member
Why no one ever talks about how Red isn't even the strongest character "lore" wise? Cause like you know, you wreck his shit in the sequel and in the remake. I hope the true strongest trainer, Ethan is also in the game so my mc in gen7 becomes the new best trainer :)
Iris a poke champion at like 9.I'm voting for that girl.
 

Caelus

Member
I hope you chill Pokefans on GAF are willing to trade me all three starters ^___^ (please, I actually love all of them and their typings are fantastic)

Decidueye is an amazing name.
 
Iris a poke champion at like 9.I'm voting for that girl.

yea but the mc in gen 5 smokes her so she ain't hot shit as far as I'm concerned. My point is that Red isn't the best trainer in the series like many like to believe since we know without a doubt that theres at least one person who beat him, you as the mc in gen 2.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
I'm still very disappointed with Litten's final evolution (Incineroar). Not as bad as I feared in 3D, but still a disappointment.

I'm pretty sure I'm choosing grass type this time.
 
Why no one ever talks about how Red isn't even the strongest character "lore" wise? Cause like you know, you wreck his shit in the sequel and in the remake. I hope the true strongest trainer, Ethan is also in the game so my mc in gen7 becomes the new best trainer :)

I really wish we would have more Protag vs. Protag matchups in the series. Red is the only one that appears as a boss not counting RSE and XY having the opposite gender MC as a rival.
 

Azuran

Banned
"Incineroar"

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Litten fans blown the fuck out. Everything about that Pokemon is a joke. LOL

Popplio fans won in the end. Truly the greatest day in the history of Pokemon. Fucking Primarina is fucking majestic and that name is so fucking good. Ah yes, thank you gods for giving her to us.
 
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