New PS4 and PS3 Models Revealed by Certification Request Filed by Sony
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AgentP
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You think Sony will change the PS3 hardware to support a feature literally a handful of cameras support and no one uses? I think you should stop with the crazy "seven degrees of separation" with digital devices and features. Almost everything you predict is incorrect.
DLNA is an industry standard and yes the PS4 will support it. The reason they are so slow to roll it out is because Sony knows the number of people who use it is small. If you are going to use resources to develop and test features, they are going to go with new social media driven stuff, not archaic local media sharing.
Teletraan1
Banned
Pretty cool stuff. My bet is that they reduce costs, keep it the same price over the holidays, maybe a value add like some free PSN+ coupons or a game. If MS makes any headway this holiday which is unlikely given that machines trajectory worldwide they can always drop the price to spur on sales after reaping the rewards over the holidays.
Its a shame I have to endure a bunch of stupid dragon balls z shit in every hardware thread. It has never added anything to the conversation.
Its a shame I have to endure a bunch of stupid dragon balls z shit in every hardware thread. It has never added anything to the conversation.
Errrr.... the UK legalised format shifting last week, but it didn't legalise breaking the DRM to do so.
There is a provision in there to appeal to the Secretary of State about that, but until it happens nobody knows what he would do - it's very (very) unlikely the answer will be that DRM circumvention is legalised.
So no.
jeff_rigby
Banned
I was told and a Google search sorta confirmed that the UK was OK with this. In rereading, it's a suggestion to lawmakers not the law.
Why on earth would you buy a console and not even see if it works?
CambriaRising
Member
You would be surprised how many people here do just that.
Man, I wish I had the kind of money that I could spend $400 on something I don't plan on using.
...but it really should appear before us in this form:They should just stack 4 PS4s together for 32GB GDDR5.
I was just looking for an excuse to buy another PS3. If the next revision has more USB's, AC wi-fi or a big hard drive it might justify it for me.
I couldn't justify the last revision. It had nothing over my slim.
They won't add anything, they want to save money.
I still dream of an HDMI-only PS3 with no AV-out, one USB and ethernet only.
Make that thing as small, cool and power-efficient as possible.
Wonder if they fix dat wobble and release a much better quality controller?
Omnii-chan
Member
Make that PS3 revision look nicer than the super slim and make a PS2 style flip top lid and I'll buy it.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Is the Destiny bundle going to contain the newest version?
It has been passed now, explicitly (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/changes-to-copyright-exceptions), but only as of a few weeks ago.
However, it only legalises the action of making a copy - it doesn't remove the offence of breaking the DRM. Therefore it is only legal to make a copy of media that doesn't have DRM on it, unless the Secretary of State pre-approves it. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa.../file/314995/copyright-guidance-consumers.pdf
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
This is nice and all, but it's a bit prematurely capped considering the same FCC has just about killed net neutrality. Don't you think that decision will arbitrarily limit some of the benefit of these features?
dcx4610
Member
Super Slim overheated on me and just felt cheap all together. I bought a used Slim after and it has been reliable so far. I'd be open to a new PS3 model if it looks cool and runs more efficiently. There are still a ton of great games for the system and don't see abandoning it any time soon.
Fun Factor
Formerly FTWer
When was the cost the same as the the system it will be put in considered cheap for a 1TB SSHD?
ChopperNewt
Neo Member
I'm actually happy to hear that there may be a new PS3 revision as I want to keep one around for PS+ games and Rock Band, as well as to use as a BD player to avoid wear and tear on my PS4. My original 60 died over a year ago, and the slim I replaced it with is showing telltale signs of a dying BD drive, so it won't be long before I'm in the market. I'm hoping for some good Black Friday news on PS3's this year, whether it's a new SKU or not.
CambriaRising
Member
You and me both.
Unknown Soldier
Member
You really enjoy downloading 50 GB games that much?
SkyMasterson
Member
Same here.
I'd be sold on the slot loading tray. I'm pretty sure any design will be better than the super slim. Truly an ugly machine.
JJDinomite
Banned
So is there actually gonna be a new PS4 model or should I stop all hope?
I think they can. If the rumor is true that they will release a PS3 with a 22nm Cell and a 28nm RSX, then it's energy consumption during full load will probably be around 45-50W, and that's what the first PS2 Slim model consumed too IIRC.
And if this happens, then I will buy a new PS3 for sure (and a 1TB drive if not included). I've waited for an energy efficient PS3 for years, not to mention my old 40GB model make a lot of noise, so annoying.
KennyLinder
Member
That would be great. I'd take a small external PSU for that size PS3 too. I guess with 2.5" HDD getting it to PS2 Slim size might be tricky..
Empyrean Heaven
Member
So the PS3 when all is said and done will have four different versions?
So I guess we can call it the Playstation 3-za!
Eh? EH???
So I guess we can call it the Playstation 3-za!
Eh? EH???
Hidden One
Member
I've had my ps3 slim since December 2009 and I've never had a problem with it. *knocks on wood*
The one time download makes much more sense than fetching and maintaining a disc for the rest of your life. That disc will take up as much relative space now as it will for eternity. 50GB in ten years time will feel the same way that downloading 50MB does today.
To answer your question - Yes, I really enjoy being future-proof. I enjoy how forward-thinking I am now and I'll enjoy the fact that one day in the far future I'll have my entire console library of this generation taking up a very small amount of cloud storage relative to that moment.
So, you really enjoy retrieving, storing and maintaining a disc and case that much?
jeff_rigby
Banned
Your likely correct and that will be a Maximum power Game mode. If it's to also be a certified DLNA CVP2 platform then it is required to have other power saving modes. The PS3 supports a low power network standby using a ARM CPU which is also used as a timer for early morning firmware updates. I don't know if the power level meets EU network standby requirements and the PS3 OS isn't instantly available which would be convenient if it's to support incoming Skype calls or Connected Home APPs. (PS4 second custom chip has 256 Megs of memory and is always on as it supports several power modes.)
Dan Ristic @dristic101 Mar 18 2014 Great first day at Sony today. Excited to make the PlayStation experience better along with @don_olmstead
Dan Ristic was very involved with WebRTC. "He is passionate about front-end engineering" = Developing the framework applications use on the PlayStation platforms. Don Olmstead wrote the WebGL UI framework for the PS4 not the actual UI.
WebRTC Data Channel Dan Ristic - Developer Evangelist
Everything in bold is needed for DLNA CVP2, PS-Now and Multi-player games are a side benefit of WebRTC support required by DLNA CVP2.
Playstation experience = Every connected Playstation platform including the PS3? That would require a significant firmware update changing the basic XMB functionality to match the PS4. If the PS3 is to be a DLNA CVP2 platform then this is likely. The PS3 is already a RVU platform which is the uncertified Pixel UI (Picture UI) version of RUI - DLNA CVP2 which uses a HTML5 UI and must be certified.
I speculated that this would be the case but it's up to Sony, there might be memory, power or security issues that prevent this. I've speculated a refreshed PS3 would have these issues corrected as I believe the PS3 has more life in third world countries and all STBs that work with ATSC 2.0 or the EU and Asian equivalent as well as Next generation Cable TV will need to be DLNA CVP2 certified. IF the PS3 can't support DLNA CVP2 then it's at a serious disadvantage compared to the other Game Consoles that are being released at the end of this year...essentially it's dead.
family_guy
Member
Buy an AC bridge.
jeff_rigby
Banned
Kinda obvious that a refresh lowers costs but it's another confirmation supporting the OP: New PS4 and PS3 Models Revealed by Certification Request Filed by Sonyhttp://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/08/06/could-a-cheaper-sony-ps4-kill-microsofts-xbox-one.aspx said:
Edit: The PS3 Slim was announced at Gamescom, could the same happen with the new PS4 & PS3?
Too bad we don't have a Super_Secret to leak information like he did on the PS3 Slim and Firmware 3.0.
Omnii-chan
Member
Yeah, and then that whole 64GB of flash memory get's disabled if you put in a hard drive. What a god damn waste.
I would absolutely be on board with this.
So apparently Pocketnews has a new CUH-1100 model PS4 and has compared it to the previous model.
According to Dutch site Tweakers (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/99236/revisie-ps4-heeft-gewijzigde-heatsink.html), the following was changed among other things. I don't understand many technicalities
- Changed heat sink and changed power supply towards the CPU and GPU
- Lower weight (2700g vs 2750g)
- Mainboard was type SAA-001, now SAB-001
- The 8-bit-mcu by STMicroelectronics was removed, perhaps now obsolete by the Marvell CXD90025G-asic sub processor (speculated by Tweakers, don't know)
- Memory changed from ddr3-1600 to ddr3l-1833 (lower power usage) (for the Marvell CXD90025G-asic sub processor, not main memory)
- AMD APU changed from CXD90026G to CXD90026AG
According to Dutch site Tweakers (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/99236/revisie-ps4-heeft-gewijzigde-heatsink.html), the following was changed among other things. I don't understand many technicalities
- Changed heat sink and changed power supply towards the CPU and GPU
- Lower weight (2700g vs 2750g)
- Mainboard was type SAA-001, now SAB-001
- The 8-bit-mcu by STMicroelectronics was removed, perhaps now obsolete by the Marvell CXD90025G-asic sub processor (speculated by Tweakers, don't know)
- Memory changed from ddr3-1600 to ddr3l-1833 (lower power usage) (for the Marvell CXD90025G-asic sub processor, not main memory)
- AMD APU changed from CXD90026G to CXD90026AG
So apparently Pocketnews has a new CUH-1100 model PS4 and has compared it to the previous model.
According to Dutch site Tweakers (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/99236/revisie-ps4-heeft-gewijzigde-heatsink.html), the following was changed among other things. I don't understand many technicalities
- Memory changed from ddr3-1600 to ddr3l-1833 (lower power usage)
- Changed heat sink and changed power supply towards the CPU and GPU
- Lower weight (2700g vs 2750g)
- Mainboard was type SAA-001, now SAB-001
- The 8-bit-mcu by STMicroelectronics was removed, perhaps made obsolete by the Marvell CXD90025G-asic?
- AMD APU changed from CXD90026G to CXD90026AG
The PS4 has GDDR5 memory, no?
Ah they're talking about the memory that supports the sub processor, the Marvell CXD90025G apparently, will update.
They won't release a full redesign before E3 at the earliest.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Yep and extra 2gb DDR3 too for reserved OS low power thing.
Yeah if it was a full redesign the starting number would probably be CUH-2xxx. Sticking with CUH-1xxx usually means internal revisions more than anything else