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[bangbang i'm a timpani]

is the 3rd one b/c toilets flush backwards in nz?

 

[DrSlek]

Black and white is weird for a flag unless you're ISIS.

It really shits me that people are actually giving ISIS this much power. Companies named ISIS shouldn't have to change their name because of those fuckwits, and NZ should not be forbidden from using black & white on their flag.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I like 4


the Red White and Blue looks stupid. Looks MLB, NBA, MLG,

I'd like thiis one but the red stars ruin it.

3 colors that don't exactly fit.

 

[lastplayed]

is the 3rd one b/c toilets flush backwards in nz?

Correct.

 

[FO-totality]

 

[Maengun1]

I don't really get some of the anti black/white comments in this thread. I think it's super appealing and clean for a flag. I mean, saying it shouldn't be done because the flag of ISIS is also black and white? Come on.

Red white and blue is so BORING and overdone.

 

[Daria Morgendorffer]

Can't say I really like any of them but #1 is the least bad I guess.

 

[nelsonroyale]

My initial reaction was 2, but I actually prefer 1. It is so unlike any other flags and would be pretty bold.

 

[Mario]

Black and white is weird for a flag unless you're ISIS.

The ISIS flag will have come and gone within a decade.

NZ will likely have the new flag for hundreds of years.

Being concerned about comparisons to ISIS is weak enough to begin with, but also shortsighted relative to how long this new flag will exist.

 

[Vangu Vegro]

I can't help but feel New Zealand is blowing a great chance to be the first nation with a dinosaur on its flag.

Far from the first.

Oh, and I'm a #3 man.

 

[DrSlek]

Oh man I hated that design so much

so glad they ditched it

For reference

Y'know, I don't mind the angled southern cross

 

[Rootbeer]

Current flag is so terrible. Man! So awful... the things that passed as decent designs back in the day... ugh.

Glad they are moving in a new direction.

 

[Drazgul]

Why continue to relate to a country that you have left in the dust?

 

[TCRS]

Why continue to relate to a country that you have left in the dust?

Human Development Index
NZ [#7] > UK [#14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

Where-to-be-born Index
NZ [#7] > UK [#27]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

Legatum Prosperity Index
NZ [#3] > UK [#13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legatum_Prosperity_Index

Social Progress Index
NZ [#5] > UK [#11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Social_Progress_Index

why live in a country that no one gives a shit about?

http://worldmapswithout.nz/

 

[Beelzebufo]

lol everyone forgets New Zealand. Really the best idea is a "We're not Australia" flag.

 

[pulsemyne]

Just stick a fuck off big dragon on it like us Welsh. You could even say "Lord of the rings was made here and that had a dragon" as an excuse.

 

[Vanillalite]

#Team3

 

[FO-totality]

why live in a country that no one gives a shit about?

http://worldmapswithout.nz/

Dat British salt

 

[Not Spaceghost]

I don't really like any of the designs, they look too I dunno, unflag like?

They look more like company logos than a national symbol.

 

[Novocaine]

I like the 2nd one the most.

 

[The Lamonster]

#2.

 

[A-V-B]

Two is probably the best. I'd like three if it had some color in it. As it stands, it look like a flag for a nation ruled by The Machines.

 

[SA007]

2nd is the best.

 

[Walshicus]

why live in a country that no one gives a shit about?

Who really gives a shit about whether other people give a shit about your country?

 

[lastplayed]

why live in a country that no one gives a shit about?

It's good. Everyone leaves us alone, we're flying under the radar until the time is right.

 

[Hackworth]

Just stick a fuck off big dragon on it like us Welsh. You could even say "Lord of the rings was made here and that had a dragon" as an excuse.

You should have been on the flag committee.

 

[Hackworth]

Sorry for the double post but I've finally found a flag I like.

The designer calls it Red Peak.
Obviously it wasn't included in the shortlist, but still.

 

[Omni]

I like number 2.

Australia needs a new flag too.

 

[lastplayed]

Sorry for the double post but I've finally found a flag I like.

The designer calls it Red Peak.
Obviously it wasn't included in the shortlist, but still.

Oh the chevron thing. It looks more like some medieval banner.

 

[norinrad]

I like the current one for some strange reason. I also predict the current one will win if there are more older people in New Zealand.

 

[Cutreman]

 

[lastplayed]

I like the current one for some strange reason. I also predict the current one will win if there are more older people in New Zealand.

Just about everyone I know, younger and older, supports the current one. Affection for it seems to span generations.

 

[Walshicus]

Just about everyone I know, younger and older, supports the current one. Affection for it seems to span generations.

Shame as the new ones look alright and not as shit as the current one. Time to upgrade!

 

[Yeoman]

I like #4 personally:

 

[sparkeysam]

It's hard to gauge at the moment whether it will change at the moment, but if it does my money is on number 2 based on the reaction over here.

 

[Mario]

It's hard to gauge at the moment whether it will change at the moment, but if it does my money is on number 2 based on the reaction over here.

Yep.

And what a horrible compromise that will be. Change, but not really.

 

[oti]

Oh man I hated that design so much

so glad they ditched it

For reference

So ugly.

 

[Cassano]

Couple of 'in context' images of Red Peak vs the Fern I came across:

 

[lastplayed]

Couple of 'in context' images of Red Peak vs the Fern I came across:

Not sure what it's trying to prove. The chevron is an ancient symbol, it's no surprise shapes like it appear on flags.

In fact there's already a flag just like it. The North American Vexillological Association.

 

[Moronwind]

Whatever they do they shouldn't pick the swirl, it looks ridiculous. #2 is probably the best one.

 

[LiQuid!]

I'm not a fan of any flag you couldn't reasonably doodle with no artistic talent. All of these proposed flags have patterns that are far too complex for simple doodling, so I hate them all.

 

[lastplayed]

I'm not a fan of any flag you couldn't reasonably doodle with no artistic talent. All of these proposed flags have patterns that are far too complex for simple doodling, so I hate them all.

I think they could still be doodled. The Union Flag and Stars and Stripes are incredibly complex from a design point of view, that doesn't stop kids drawing them and being recognisable.

 

[valeo]

I'm not a fan of any flag you couldn't reasonably doodle with no artistic talent. All of these proposed flags have patterns that are far too complex for simple doodling, so I hate them all.

Agreed. I had a tough enough time at school drawing the union jack - I feel sorry for any kid that has to draw a fucking fern.

 

[dejay]

I'm not a fan of any flag you couldn't reasonably doodle with no artistic talent. All of these proposed flags have patterns that are far too complex for simple doodling, so I hate them all.

Yes, the benchmark on flag design should be if some dude on 'GAF can doodle it. What we need is another tri-colour or cross.

 

[Ensirius]

2 is the right choice here.

 

[Blastoise]

 

[DeSo]

^Ugly.

I like option two from the OP.

 

[Desmond]

Couple of 'in context' images of Red Peak vs the Fern I came across:

Jaysus, that Ireland flag is SICK

 

[Sir Abacus]

It's funny because it's true.

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

I gotta go with #2, but we'll have to ask the opinion of the only New Zealander that matters, Rose McIver.