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[LucidFlux]

Huh I was expecting much faster loads on XsX for backwards compatibility games. Now I'm curious to see where games built to leverage the SSD end up.

 

[Insane Metal]

Where are these from? Some of these are really shit, are they legit?

It's from the Verge.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Something something Horse's mouth

Scorn is as cross-gen as it gets. It's been on Steam for over a year now, innit?

 

[mejin]

XBOX SERIES X LOAD TIMES

Game	Xbox Series X	Xbox One X
CoD: Warzone	16 seconds	21 seconds
Red Dead Redemption 2	52 seconds	1 min, 35 seconds
The Outer Worlds	6 seconds	27 seconds
Evil Within 2	33 seconds	43 seconds
Sea of Thieves	20 seconds	1 min, 21 seconds
Warframe	25 seconds	1 min, 31 seconds
AC: Odyssey	30 seconds	1 min, 7 seconds
No Man's Sky	1 min, 27 seconds	2 mins, 13 seconds
Destiny 2	43 seconds	1 min, 52 seconds

Where are the new games?

 

[Bojanglez]

I have no problem if Bluepoint came out and said it's 1440p.
But DF said they don't know the resolution, but think it is 1440p,
then could tell me Halo just needs Raytracing.
Like come on DF, you guys suppose to be professionals, not favoring one over the other.

 

[PSX]

The most up-close PS5 controller images yet show previously unseen detail | VGC

Peripheral firm shares snaps of the DualSense pad…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[sircaw]

Cool preview. A lot of stuff we already knew from Microsoft themselves, but nice that it is being verified by media outlets. Those faster load times for BC games are nice, expect PS5 to be even faster.


Yeah, I don't think you understand how BC works. These games weren't build for the XSX. Do you expect the PS5 to load RDR2 in 10sec maybe? Because if so, please say this now. What do you expect from the PS5?

If ps5 loads red dead in 50 seconds that is shit also
if it loads in 40 that to me is shit as well.

Those are enormous load times, i don't find those acceptable on a ps5 or xbox,

 

[martino]

i'm guessing bc games won't use decompression block on next gen consoles so cpu is doing the work, no ?

 

[Insane Metal]

Where are the new games?

Embargo has lifted on BC stuff only.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

If ps5 loads red dead in 50 seconds that is shit also
if it loads in 40 that to me is shit as well.

Those are enormous load times, i don't find those acceptable on a ps5 or xbox,

Those games aren't build for PS5 and XSX, they aren't optimized for it. They just use the raw speed of these systems to load faster and play better, that's it. Expect Miles Morales to load much faster than this.

 

[Codexer]

 

[LiquidRex]

If you see this image today with the caption someone has got their PS5 early.... Its fake

Here's the original...

But I'm sure you knew that.

 

[Zoro7]

I knew it would be BC titles only but I’m still disappointed. Hope Sony doesn’t do this.

 

[sojuwarrior]

is there any news of another ps5 event possibly before launch??

 

[Wraith Phantom]

I think casuals expect 4k, 120fps as ‘next gen’. Anything that doesn’t meet the number throws the thought process for a spin. It’s to be expected, that’s what ms was betting on with Halo Infinity, the numbers were to do the talking based on some focus groups.

Unfortunately what the eyes see and what the numbers say can only fool perceptions so far.

God damn there product managers are shambles. I am in a 12 man whatsapp group of casuals. Real casuals. None of them are talking about frames. All they said is they got new 4k tvs & will get FIFA,NBA,COD & a PS5. Not one convo about frames,SSD, Velocity trash, TFlops. This all online fanboy stuff. That casuals don't care. No research will defeat great looking games.

I don't agree with you regarding RPG genre. I believe the Bethesda template is still great. It just that it didn't evolve. Western RPGs are still great and Cyberpunk 2077 may set the new standards.
I also don't agree about comparing single player RPGs with shitty Livvve Service crap. Avengers is shit and Suicide Squad will be worse than Anthem

I respect your post big man. You ain't listening though. JRPG is the gold standard in rpg genre.This what RPG's are now. As a I type right now GENSHIN IMPACT is the game to play. JRPG style its whats hot .That is all these gamers know this gen. And Honestly them gaas games been a thing for a long time.JRPGS already work in that vain in co-op mode.It's a Monster Hunter world. Avengers ,Suicide squad will do well.

If new RPG's don't play like that. I dont think your RPG will make it. Cybercut 2077 maybe it will be good game. Its turning into GTA at every turn!!! They paid enough press to make it seem great. But It ain't going to set any new standard. That games a hot mess imo. I don't think its going to hit its sales projections its competing against PS5 & Spiderman. Good Luck. When it comes to RPG If you aint summoning wind ,beating on dragons & all that anime shit. Hard sell. JRPG is gold standard. Genshin impact is the game right now. Nobody checking for outerworlds & the like.

 

[sircaw]

Those games aren't build for PS5 and XSX, they aren't optimized for it. They just use the raw speed of these systems to load faster and play better, that's it. Expect Miles Morales to load much faster than this.

i am just very very shocked, i really did think it would be so much less.

Fast loading times was one of the big things i was looking forward to next gen, no word of a lie but i was looking forward to it more than new games, this has really dampen my expectations for ps5 as well.

I feel like crying.

 

[PropellerEar]

no thanks lol

He did better than expected
...but still somewhat surprised XSeX didn't just slip from those super greasy fingers.

 

[Dolomite]

8 year old kid having trouble sleeping -> gets them to play video games for an hour. That's some top quality parenting right there

Lots of the twitter replies seem disappointed that it's a game an 8 year old is allowed to play . I think they may be working on more than one game though?

Possible. Also I saw that and didn't understand the disappointment. So many people assumed thier next game won't be rated M, while I was just happy to know it's not vaporware. I would let my kid play, say a rated M Halo, or uncharted while supervised but not a God of war.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

198GB used up. How does that compare to Xbox One?

 

[RookX22]

edit.

 

[Dolomite]

Coming from guys who ran their game on a PC, this is rich.

To be fair, pretty much everything thing shown on the series x was actually PC footage thus far

 

[Deleted member 775630]

I knew it would be BC titles only but I’m still disappointed. Hope Sony doesn’t do this.

Different approach when it comes to marketing. Microsoft, every 2 weeks some info dropped. Sony every 2 months a lot of info at the same time.

i am just very very shocked, i really did think it would be so much less.

Fast loading times was one of the big things i was looking forward to next gen, no word of a lie but i was looking forward to it more than new games, this has really dampen my expectations for ps5 as well.

I feel like crying.

Well I'm happy it's already this more faster

 

[demigod]

Very quiet, which game is he playing thats taxing the GPU to confirm this?!?

 

[Deleted member 775630]

198GB used up. How does that compare to Xbox One?

Quick Google search said 138GB.

 

[Zoro7]

Different approach when it comes to marketing. Microsoft, every 2 weeks some info dropped. Sony every 2 months a lot of info at the same time.


Well I'm happy it's already this more faster

Yeah I get this. It’s just I wish we saw what the series X was able to do with a game that was made for it.

Also quick resume speed is bad ass.

 

[Dolomite]

If I can load at least 5 games into a queue with quick resume, I'm Golden. 5-8 secs is a bit longer than what I was hoping for but day and night compared to current gen

 

[mejin]

I have no problem if Bluepoint came out and said it's 1440p.
But DF said they don't know the resolution, but think it is 1440p,
then could tell me Halo just needs Raytracing.
Like come on DF, you guys suppose to be professionals, not favoring one over the other.

simply malice. They perfectly knew people wouldn't read or see shit after they saw "1440p".

 

[Zheph]

Those XSX loading numbers look good, SSD will provide much more but this is already a nice win for all gamers

 

[Tmack]

Will PS4 games run on PS5 like it would in a PS4pro, at least?

 

[Zheph]

Will PS4 games run on PS5 like it would in a PS4pro, at least?

some will run better than pro, it a case by case so hard to predict

 

[Insane Metal]

Those load times look pretty bad to me, but then again, I wouldn't even use BC so whatever

I wanna see some actual nextgen stuff, why don't they allow it? We're like less than 2 months from launch. This is ridiculous.

 

[DrDamn]

They all seem to be doing the same tests at the moment. Have they got some mandate/script to follow?

It did seem like some sections were very scripted. It also seems to be illegal to say "Series X" without "Xbox" in front of it, or even XSX heaven forbid!

Embargo has lifted on BC stuff only.

There was nothing XSX/XSS enhanced install on the machine Jeffrey Grubb was demoing. He showed how quick it was to switch filters on the games list and it went blank when that was selected. Here:



I thought times to copy to an External USB SSD and back were good enough for use as a hot storage option. 50GB game from internal SSD to external SSD (USB) was only 4m33s and moving it the other way only 2m18s

 

[Zadom]

i am just very very shocked, i really did think it would be so much less.

Fast loading times was one of the big things i was looking forward to next gen, no word of a lie but i was looking forward to it more than new games, this has really dampen my expectations for ps5 as well.

I feel like crying.

I did not know what to expect, but I was hoping for very little loading in next gen, even with old games. Dreaming of the days of cartridges.
Maybe Sony waited for Xbox to show its loading times first so theirs can be more impressive? I hope.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[Nikana]

i am just very very shocked, i really did think it would be so much less.

Fast loading times was one of the big things i was looking forward to next gen, no word of a lie but i was looking forward to it more than new games, this has really dampen my expectations for ps5 as well.

I feel like crying.

SSDs aren't magical items that will suddenly make load times non existent. You still have to optimize for the loading. You shouldn't be worried. As long as the devs are competent loading will not be an issue for games coded for an SSD.

 

[TBiddy]

I did not know what to expect, but I was hoping for very little loading in next gen, even with old games. Dreaming of the days of cartridges.
Maybe Sony waited for Xbox to show its loading times first so theirs can be more impressive? I hope.

It's very likely the PS5 will have faster load times, but when it comes to 3rd party games, I doubt the difference will be noticable outside of using a stop watch.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

 

[Zheph]

Guys those games were not made with SSD in mind, having some gain here is nice. It won't change the "no loading" for next gen games

 

[SlimySnake]

802? are they reserving 160GB for the oS? what the hell?

whats going to happen with the series s? that 512 GB should only be roughly 475 GB of usable space (thats what my work laptop has).

That means if the OS size is the same you are looking at only 300 GB of usable space in the Xbox Series S.

 

[xacto]

To be fair, pretty much everything thing shown on the series x was actually PC footage thus far

I am absolutely convinced, real XSX footage will drop very soon now.

 

[Insane Metal]

That's still a lot more than PS5 will have, probably something like 700GB... maybe less.

 

[Axonometri]

My next gen console only loads my last gen games in half the time?? Im so upset! Really?

 

[TBiddy]

802? are they reserving 160GB for the oS? what the hell?

whats going to happen with the series s? that 512 GB should only be roughly 475 GB of usable space (thats what my work laptop has).

That means if the OS size is the same you are looking at only 300 GB of usable space in the Xbox Series S.

The expansion card has 920 GB of space, so it's 'only' 108 GB for OS, I think.

 

[Axonometri]

That's still a lot more than PS5 will have, probably something like 700GB... maybe less.

Then I will be starting out with somewhere around 1.7tb. Excellent

 

[Nikana]

802? are they reserving 160GB for the oS? what the hell?

whats going to happen with the series s? that 512 GB should only be roughly 475 GB of usable space (thats what my work laptop has).

That means if the OS size is the same you are looking at only 300 GB of usable space in the Xbox Series S.

A large chunk of that you have to assume is for the background recording of 4K footage. I have to imagine series S won't be recording in 4K so that should help somewhat.

 

[Dabaus]

Is sony even trying anymore? Yakuza next timed exclusive xbox, no show at tgs, now xbox hand son previews. Fire Jim Ryan already.

 

[McHuj]

i'm guessing bc games won't use decompression block on next gen consoles so cpu is doing the work, no ?

Yeah, that's what it seems like. You're getting the benefit of the SSD read, but it's still bottlenecked by the CPU having to do the decompression. Until a game is built for next-gen hardware, you won't see the real benefits yet.

 

[mancs]

SSDs aren't magical items that will suddenly make load times non existent. You still have to optimize for the loading. You shouldn't be worried. As long as the devs are competent loading will not be an issue for games coded for an SSD.

Demon souls portal travel on ps5, says what?
So does Spiderman load up time!

 

[Dibils2k]

the fun will really begin when these games are tested on PS5 will be our 1st true comparisons

 

[Nikana]

Demon souls portal travel on ps5, says what?
So does Spiderman load up time!

Those are games coded to the SSD.