Insane Metal
Member
But someone told me on the other (now closed thread) that it was actually referring to X360 and OG XBox? What is happening. Nothing is clear, Jeez
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IbelieveInGenerations
Banned
Wow..m so much for the hugely impressive BC and Sony not being transparent and only having like the double "only"
What is going on with thee XB FUD towards PS5? It's fucking pathetic. I'm getting kinda sick of going on YouTube, seeing people regurgitate it all for views, then seeing the likes of gaming websites a day later, and Facebook a day later still.
The best of it is that the shit gets slung PS5's way, and then it always turns out that XB is the one with said problem. Like the PS5 is having yield problems FUD from a week or two back, now people are saying it's Series X with the yield problems.
It wasn't like this for PS4/XB1 releases, at least I don't remember it being?
The best of it is that the shit gets slung PS5's way, and then it always turns out that XB is the one with said problem. Like the PS5 is having yield problems FUD from a week or two back, now people are saying it's Series X with the yield problems.
It wasn't like this for PS4/XB1 releases, at least I don't remember it being?
Neo Blaster
Member
Not just that, they want to watch 120fps on their 60Hz TVs.
ethomaz
Banned
Richard from Digital Foundry.
Metroiddarks
Member
After saw the BC on XSX including framerates and loadings later of months of marketing about this.
Looks is not bad or something like that but this 2020 hardware vs software designed around hardware of 2013
and is just not possible to reach 60 fps 4k.
Also I just not understand all time used for DF to show Grand Theft Auto 4 in XSX, you know a game from 2008
and then tell us we should be surprise.
Looks like PS5 doesn't care BC so I don't expect better result from them neither.
Looks is not bad or something like that but this 2020 hardware vs software designed around hardware of 2013
and is just not possible to reach 60 fps 4k.
Also I just not understand all time used for DF to show Grand Theft Auto 4 in XSX, you know a game from 2008
and then tell us we should be surprise.
Looks like PS5 doesn't care BC so I don't expect better result from them neither.
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ethomaz
Banned
There are only about 500 available game to play via BC.
Seem like they added a bit more thought the weekend.
The girl actually was saying the truth and what she could play.
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Randy Randerson
Member
It's really strange on this push for 120Hz from gamers + devs. The attach rate for TVs with this capability must be pretty small (higher end models only). I wonder if it will be early gen thing that gets left behind once games get graphically more intensive and 60Hz becomes the performance mode.
gt_connect
Neo Member
"The downside to QLC NANDs is slower read and write speeds but Samsung mitigates this with a large DRAM cache - 8GB in the case of the 8TB QVO 870. Samsung promises a max read of 560MB/s and write of 530MB/s - and our tests pull respectably close to both. "
Faithless83
Banned
What was the number on Digital Foundry video? "Immense" is what a girl calls your junk on every early relationship. 
Doncabesa
Member
Yeah she just wasn't clear about it. They limited it to 500 including most of the big "performance mode" games to test, and added another 500 over the weekend.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Jesus.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Except she said "you" will have, she never stated that it was just the case in her preview model.
Richard confirmed it is over 1000.
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Doncabesa
Member
It's not a launch number, it's what they made available to the press. 500 to start and 1000 by the weekend. It's not like they tested 500 more games from tuesday to friday and ok'ed them. They're obviously taken from a list of what is already ready to go and are just whitelisting them for press as they see fit.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Her presentation was worded in a way that made it sound like on day 1 on the releases of these machines there will only be the games available she had right now which is not true.
Neo Blaster
Member
How dare you compare the basis of all console wars nowadays to real life?A beautiful lady walks up to you in a bar for a chat, do you:
A) Enjoy her company
B) Pull out a tape measure and check that she meets an arbitrary measurement that you perceive to be important
?
kyliethicc
Member
Cerny did say if we see a PC discrete GPU that is like the PS5's custom GPU, then their collaboration was successful.
FALCON_KICK
Member
Such a huge library of games and Sony doesn't care. PS2 games should easily run at native 4k and 120fps on PS5. Sony can easily make a team to run some of the important PS3 titles backward compatible on PS5 boost mode; Games like RDR, GTAIV, MGS4, Shadow of the Damned and many more games which were never ported to PC/PS4.
Nickolaidas
Banned
I basically have connected my tv, home theatre, pc and consoles to a multi-plug device which has an on-off switch. I just flip the switch and all of my devices as practically unplugged, which is the safest and most effortless solution I could come up with.
Mahavastu
Member
PS4 already has hardware decompression, which I expect most games to use. It should be easy for Sony to use the new decompression hardware on the PS5 for older PS4 games, as the new hardware still supports the old compression method.
kyliethicc
Member
I will apologize toShut the hell up,TBiddy is a well-loved, respected member of this forum that never moans.
His posts are about as good as mine, technically speaking that is.
I got your back T
TBiddy
because he did start posting about the consoles, but I only got to those pages later on, after I said that. My apologies.But the pop in, give a snarky disdainful meta commentary of the thread, and bounce thing... its not great.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I don't understand why so many here obsess over this shit...
Like, if I wanted to see what morons were saying on Twitter I'd go to Twitter.. same with YouTube.
I prefer to keep my exposure to morons limited to NeoGAF. There's some FUD here but honestly there are 100 times more posts complaining about FUD than FUD itself... which I'm personally far more sick of lol (then once a week I whine about those complaints, circle of life baby)
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Nickolaidas
Banned
Doesn't matter if the PS5 and the XSX won't have their entire library available for BC at day one. They'll add more and more every day/week/month that passes.
We're good.
We're good.
T
Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Not gonna point fingers at T but I've seen others on the thread do this, don't want to mention names but comes off as really condescending and shitty.I will apologize to
But the pop in, give a snarky disdainful meta commentary of the thread, and bounce thing... its not great.
kyliethicc
Member
Thank you Don. Appreciate the info.
Sinthor
Gold Member
Just FYI, I can tell you in the IT world, it's generally accepted that there is less WEAR on electronics like laptops, etc. when they are kept powered on. Powering on and off actually stresses the electronic components more. These are electronic devices, not mechanical, which is where there generally is some confusion.
Just ask IT support folk how many servers suddenly fail when they patch and then have to restart them, or how many desktops sitting in office call centers and other locations will suddenly have failed hard drives or power supplies when IT comes along and sends out a mass shutdown or reboot command. It happens.
gamechanger87
Member
These are the ones "white-listed" for it. Not sure what point you are making? Series X will have effectively full BC and cross-save. They had 500 when they got the console and another 500 were added over the weekend. Yes she may have had 500 to start but it was 1,000 by today.
I think you are making an argument that won't hold water very quickly.
As of this moment, PS5 cross-save is looking incredibly iffy unless it was setup in a manner that the save was stored on the developers server (Avengers, Destiny, etc.)
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
it's funny, i remember those early rumors where AMD was supposedly making Navi for Sony, but as it turns out, Sony/Cerny made Navi for AMD. ;p
FALCON_KICK
Member
ethomaz
Banned
My point is that the girls didn't lie but people did inquisition-ed her lol
ResilientBanana
Member
Some games are hard coded to run at certain framerates and take advantage of older and more specific technologies on those consoles. This is most likely why we wont ever see emulated or native PS3 BC. Meanwhile, Microsoft has already perfected the emulation. I'm sure by launch things will be ready. Either way, Sony can promise 100% PS4 BC all they'd like, but proof is in the pudding and Sony has lied about a few things lately.After saw the BC on XSX including framerates and loadings later of months of marketing about this.
Looks is not bad or something like that but this 2020 hardware vs software designed around hardware of 2013
and is just not possible to reach 60 fps 4k.
Also I just not understand all time used for DF to show Grand Theft Auto 4 in XSX, you know a game from 2008
and then tell us we should be surprise.
Looks like PS5 doesn't care BC so I don't expect better result from them neither.
I can't say we've even seen the console in person yet.
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kyliethicc
Member
Does Xbox OS use binary like Windows (GiB) or use decimal GB like PS4 and MacOS?
This looks like decimal. So are the 1 TB drives actually only 930 GiB and not the 1024 GiB like many thought?
Metroiddarks
Member
Playstation care BC but not in the same degree as Xbox, in my personal opinion I like that from Sony.
Also only your first sentence make sense how you want make an argument against something I said using things which will not happen or you
don't have a real idea of what are you talking about like the PS2 or PS3 games because one they will not do BC with PS2, second PS3 BC is possible
but this not going to happen and is not actually easy to do.
Is true that PS5 can have almost equals or even more title BC than XSX because well PS4 have thousands of them but that doesn't mean they
pay the same level of attention.
I will not buy XSX or PS5 for BC I cannot care less what I see funny is a company using so many time and money for marketing something which
is not able to reach a high framerate in 4k in a consist way even when the title can run in a very old hardware.
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danielJackson
Banned
Some PS2 games are on CD, and ps4/5 dont read CDs. So that is the problem.
It would be nice as I have 350-450 PS2 games, but cant get everything and OG ps2 is cheap + looks good on CRT tv.
Okamiden
Member
why not? what's the problem with that everyone has? too lazy?
Dibils2k
Member
wow, Smart delivery looking less of a marketing gimmick and more of a great service each passing day
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol I swear there is more FUD about FUD on gaf than actual FUD about Sony and Microsoft.
What I would like to see is FUD about Nintendo. These guys literally just released 20-25 year old games with little to no upgrades. I cannot believe mario 64 isnt even running at 60 fps.
ethomaz
Banned
Dave_at_Home
Member
Long work day and I come here to find out nothing.
Any news on PS5 UI reveal? Anything? Something tells me Sony is not doing anything else until AMD does their full RDNA2 reveal.
Any news on PS5 UI reveal? Anything? Something tells me Sony is not doing anything else until AMD does their full RDNA2 reveal.
Not sure if this is enough for you:
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
the question is: Where PS5 is hiding? all vendor demos up to now. off course all hand picked.
Metroiddarks
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Nickolaidas
Banned
Me: Guys, do you think our PS4 saves will work perfectly on BC games on the PS5?
GAF: Of course they will! What are you, an idiot?
Me: Eh ... I don't knooooow ....
saintjules
Member
FALCON_KICK
Member
It's similar for Maneater's upgrade, Xbox One saves transfer but PS4 saves do not.
Maneater Evolves with Next-Gen Enhancements! FAQ
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Killer Sakoman
Member
Maybe.
A collaboration is made by sharing cost and specific technologies that one partner has but the other doesn't and vice-versa. Otherwise, Cerny would just sit in his office drinking coffee and waiting for that fucking sillicon chip to arrive and stick it into his fucking piece of plastic.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
thats insanely fast. wow.
i wonder how much power its consuming while in sleep state.
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