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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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mejin

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Dabaus said:
In light of Microsoft acquiring Zenimax has "insider" mentioned if sony has anything going on behind the scenes? Even their reaction to the news? I know we havent received a statement or comment from sony about it but it seems like something you would want address, even in passing.
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there is no one left with credibility to know this kind of info.
 
Nikana

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kyliethicc said:
Like the CPU/GPU cycles to render the data and that stuff?

What else is there? Genuine question.
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Thats a big question and I would implore you to look up some good youtube videos as they will explain it better than I can.


Decompression is a big one especially in the current gen. Assets have gotten very large and even with an SSD the engines are not there yet in many capacities. The decompression blocks and much faster CPUS will help with this.
 
Imtjnotu

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ksdixon said:
I want that Surface Duo...
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SlimySnake

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kyliethicc said:
But I don't speak Japanese. As Sam Jackson once said "English mothe...."
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I was wondering about that. I know and follow ZERO Japanese youtubers. It's absolutely bizarre that Sony is counting on japanese youtubers to reach the western market.

I really liked how Shu just sat on a chair and opened Gamescom with a straight forward presentation of the PS4 UI. I want that Sony to come back.
 
sircaw

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EviLore EviLore

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If we can Get Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem back we happily offer TBiddy TBiddy , Doncabesa Doncabesa Nikana Nikana (sorry) in his place. Imagine the pleasurere you can get from banning them one by one.

ITs a Three to one offer, if we get 20 Thumbs up from the speculation populace it means the deal is sealed, What do you say EviLore EviLore our great + wise leader :messenger_grimmacing_

We would love you even more if it was to happen. :messenger_heart:
 
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PaintTinJr

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Entroyp said:
What you saw was the PS5 version of Spiderman, the one that will release alongside MM.

I say that everyone expecting sub second load times for old games out of the bat are setting themselves for disappointment. The game’s logic doesn’t know about the new I/O hardware so the CPU will handle everything at legacy frequencies (when not in boost mode of course).
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I'm not entirely sure about that. In the Road to PS5, IIRC Cerny said you had two options with the IO complex, 1: ignore it and use the filesystem in the traditional way, and it would do the job behind the scenes, or 2: use the new api with explicit file IDs and priorities to get maximum performance. In that scenario the PS4 BC stuff will likely just have wrapper-ed the old PS4 filesystem library to redirect to the new filesystem library, and still get a monstrous IO improvement - just not at the option 2 level.
 
Nikana

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sircaw said:
EviLore EviLore

On behalf of the prisoner exchange group, we the members of the Spec thread would like to do a swop trade,

If we can Get Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem back we happily offer TBiddy TBiddy , Doncabesa Doncabesa Nikana Nikana (sorry) in his place. Imagine the pleasurere you can get from banning them one by one.

ITs a Three to one offer, if we get 20 Thumbs up from the spec populance it means the deal is sealed, What do you say EviLore EviLore our great + wise leader :messenger_grimmacing_

We would love you even more if it was to happen. :messenger_heart:
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You're not sorry.
 
Entroyp

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PaintTinJr said:
I'm not entirely sure about that. In the Road to PS5, IIRC Cerny said you had two options with the IO complex, 1: ignore it and use the filesystem in the traditional way, and it would do the job behind the scenes, or 2: use the new api with explicit file IDs and priorities to get maximum performance. In that scenario the PS4 BC stuff will likely just have wrapper-ed the old PS4 filesystem library to redirect to the new filesystem library, and still get a monstrous IO improvement - just not at the option 2 level.
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I sure hope that is the case then.
 
SlimySnake

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Dabaus said:
In light of Microsoft acquiring Zenimax has "insider" mentioned if sony has anything going on behind the scenes? Even their reaction to the news? I know we havent received a statement or comment from sony about it but it seems like something you would want address, even in passing.
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There were no insiders in Sony to begin with. Sony ran a pretty tight ship this gen. Github was the only real leak, and even that was outdated.

It is curious that Sony hasnt addressed such a massive news, but tbh what can they really say that will make it better? The moment they hint at other studio acquisitions, MS will beat them to the punch. I dont think Sony wants to lose more third party studios.

They can keep showing their games, and tell their first party studios to stop making the same damn cinematic action adventure game for one. have at least two studios focus on making WRPGs to combat Fable, Avowed, Fallout, Elder Scrolls and Starfield. I think Sony studios like GG and Sucker Punch can easily make a choice driven action WRPG like Mass Effect. They have the gameplay down, they have the time sink sandbox down. GG already has dialogue trees and Sucker Punch already has experience with choices. All they need is character customizations that let me play the way I want to play.
 
pasterpl

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geordiemp said:
Yeah it is, looks nice with a new lick o paint but its last gen in origin, got enough of them in backlog, and it least it looks better than Halo.

Where is the new stuff.
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not a big achievement for a game to look better than the new halo, but I get your point, Im guessing that we will be getting some more videos like these today every week until launch with different embargoes being lifted before each. My guess, next week or in 2 weeks we will see Xbox series enhanced games and then at the last stage they will show some next gen titles.
 
IbelieveInGenerations

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Raoul_Duke said:
Now i understand all the xbox shills

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Holy fucking shit!!.
They play games for a living, for professional reasons and cant spend 400 or 500 for a gaming console in merica, while in Brazil, a poor motherfucker like me are spending around 900 dolars and not complainning or demanding anything for free, and I wouldnt do it even If I had a famous YouTube Channel for games.

A poor professionalism musician spend a Ton to get the best instrument their money can own and theses mother fuckers gainning a good amount of money to just play games are complainning to spend a few bucks on a videogame

Must be part of First world problems. Cringy as fuck!
 
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kyliethicc

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Nikana said:
Thats a big question and I would implore you to look up some good youtube videos as they will explain it better than I can.


Decompression is a big one especially in the current gen. Assets have gotten very large and even with an SSD the engines are not there yet in many capacities. The decompression blocks and much faster CPUS will help with this.
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Compression is part of loading into memory. And the console have dedicated decompressors. The 4.8 GB/s figure Xbox states is including compression and decompression into the I/O speed.

The One X and Series X both support ZLib. So the 2.4 GB/s raw is slower than the drive can load Xbox One games because it uses Zlib and has dedicated decompresor.

Maybe it can't load One X games at 4.8 GB/s but it can at least hit 2.4 GB/s.

My point still stands. Not impressed with the Series X loading.
 
TheAssist

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zaitsu said:
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Kinda what I was thinking the whole time xD.
One of the reasons I play mostly on PC, especially multiplayer games, is that you can just tab out to do other stuff while you wait for a round to start or lobbies to fill.
PC is still the king in multitasking.

But anyway, being able to skip the splash screens and cold boot right where you left of will be a god sent
 
Nikana

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kyliethicc said:
Compression is part of loading into memory. And the console have dedicated decompressors. The 4.8 GB/s figure Xbox states is including compression and decompression into the I/O speed.

The One X and Series X both support ZLib. So the 2.4 GB/s raw is slower than the drive can load Xbox One games because it uses Zlib and has dedicated decompresor.

Maybe it can't load One X games at 4.8 GB/s but it can at least hit 2.4 GB/s.

My point still stands. Not impressed with the Series X loading.
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Just because the object is decompressed does not mean its ready.
 
SSfox

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sircaw said:
Microsoft are the KINGS OF SPIN.

I mean you got to give them some credit, they are bullshitting and buying their way to good publicity.

Sony got absolute roasted on these forums months back for the exact same things, now people don't even care if they have new games. I have never seen anything like this in my life.

Ok that's a lie, there was that one scene in Bagdad airport with the general saying everything was ok, when the Americans were landing lol.
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Nothing really new or surpring tbh though. Nobody can beat MS when it comes to lies/BS

They tweet that MGSV is Xbox One exclusive.

They say they're not competing Sony, and "War is Over", then they moneyhat Sega to not release Yakuza on PS5 day one.

And exemples are infinite actually
 
FunkMiller

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Raoul_Duke said:
Now i understand all the xbox shills

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And right there is your fucking problem. This is disgusting on pretty much every relevant level. How can anyone ever take at face value anything any of these cunts say, if this is their attitude?

...and this is not Msft’s fault. They’re fully entitled to supply hardware and software to potential reviewers if they so desire. People need to exercise a little fucking self respect and morality.
 
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