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saintjules
Gold Member
Need to experience the DualSense...Now
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
You can, they called it the ayrton senna cam .......Too dark?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Cerny delivery system.
I hope it really is that easy because that's the main issue when it comes to exotic hardware. Like how some developers didn't want to take advantage of the PS3s hardware because it was a pain to develop for.
The problem is with the PS3 was that it was created by a hardware engineer with little to no thought of the programmers, the PS4 and beyond was created by a programmer with programmers in mind and the results really show!
smallpotatosan
Member
oh, that video is way too short. i didn't even catch the first second. the shots i took are clear SSR. looks like a combo of two as expected. this is good.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
If you don't know him I envy you,rumor has it that he is predicting that the ps5 price reveal will happen next week.
Empire Strikes Back
Member
LOL, RIP that guy cut in half.
Stop crying and accusing, and start proving.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I'm going with $699 myself.
geordiemp
Member
The Tflops are useless, it is necessary to evaluate how the system works as a whole.
8 DCU-16 CU hanging from the same RDNA2 branch is not a good deal.
AMD doesn't have any GPUs for now (leaked) RDNA2 has more than 5 DCUs hanging from the same L1. Although they have added L0 it does not solve it or AMD would have put more DCUs hanging. In fact 80 Cu is 2 times 40 CU and never exceeds 5 DCU per branch.
For me, taking advantage of those DCUs above 10 is requiring a low level programming with great care with caches. It's a headache.
However, it is only a speculation of mine, although with foundation.
TFlops are of no use if there is no control and there are no Hits in the caches, since they will remain waiting most of the time. That is why it is necessary to see how the complete system performs.
Very First thought that came to my mind when I saw hotchips, unless MS have increased L1 to take advantage and the bandwidth to L0 local, but they did not answer the L1 question in the Q&A at hotchips so we dont know for sure.
My guess is the 4 shader arrays match the 4 instances for the server as its dual function.
GreyHand23
Member
Ubisoft is sending it out to die with AC Valhalla also releasing. This is similar to the Titanfall 2, Battlefield 1 mistake that EA made a few years ago.
MrFunSocks
Banned
The console isn’t too hot to touch though, that was pure FUD being spread by team blue and was refuted by the person that they were misquoting.Thanks for explaining me physics, I thought it was what I graduated in my University studies a while ago, but could be wrong there
Nobody was talking about the air being expelled, the argument was about the console itself being too hot to touch. That's reading comprehension and all that.
there’s no issue with heat. I’m pretty sure the surface design team know a bit more about designing electronic devices than you do.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Wait, what?! the official Dirt twitter account just shared a Dealer video... I can't believe they went down that road
Bo_Hazem
Banned
yep. this is why i stopped playing dreams. I was like nope, i need my pro to live through ff7, the last of us and ghost still.
I did have to open it up after finishing tlou2 and realizing i missed half of the dialogue. it was relatively easy and found this mess on the heatsink.
The dust catchers are a brilliant idea that should prevent this from happening.
the thermal paste was also poorly applied. nothing on the sides which I assume is what was causing the chip to heat up so much.
Once I fixed it, it's been so quiet I was freaking out thinking I forgot to plug the fan back in. Ghosts was quiet as a mouse and my second run of tlou2 had the fan kick in only a couple of times. I am still scared to try Dreams though lol. Will wait for the PS5 because i do want to trade this in.
I must be lucky to play lots of games, never cleaned my PS4 base 2013-2016, then didn't clean my pro 2016-present and still have it extremely silent. It's not just me, all of the PS4's I've seen in person are extremely silent and you can only know they're on from the light bar, even in shitty situations and even open air like camps and so where friends gather and play with humidity hitting 100% and drizzles with lots of mist during the monsoon season.
No worries, I've cleaned it from the outside after the video, lol. I tell the house maid to not even touch the spot, as I find the console open sometimes for hours without noticing it. And I'm a lazy ass so I rarely clean that holy spot. I don't really touch it as I'm 100% digital since late 2014.
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah honestly if a good mix of SSR and raytracing can reduce ts impact on framerate then great.
I wonder if it is possible to use SSR and raytracing only where SSR fails.I guess it would introduce artefacts like temporal injection but would be elegant.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Well the alleged BOM is like 450 or 480$ so it can't be 500$, it has to be 550 or 600$
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Arrogant Sony though. $899
smallpotatosan
Member
Bladed Thesis
Member
It's a clown world at this point.
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Probablyanything is possible with clever software engineering
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Probably just a mistake in the current data.Welp looks like Fortnite isn't backward compatible on ps5
Either that or it'll just have a PS5 version at launch.
J_Gamer.exe
Member
Cerny delivery system.
I hope it really is that easy because that's the main issue when it comes to exotic hardware. Like how some developers didn't want to take advantage of the PS3s hardware because it was a pain to develop for.
To use velocity architecture we just have to solve it..
Snowdonhoffen
Member
I mean, the title is free so they will just probably release the next gen version as a separate thing and not as a patched PS4 version.Welp looks like Fortnite isn't backward compatible on ps5
MrPotato
Member
yep, that's what I am guessing.
I also speculated that maybe because its free to play, but fall guys is compatible.
for those curious, I was able to find 3 categories, COMPATIBLE, BOOTABLE, and NOT_COMPATIBLE.
RyanEvans21
Member
Welp looks like Fortnite isn't backward compatible on ps5
J_Gamer.exe
Member
Yes I posted before that came to light, remains to be seen whether it's there at launch. Weird if only 1 game has it.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
If Jon from DF turns out to be right, and XSX can’t do much of any RT at launch... Mr Spencer and his pals will have a lot of explaining to do to millions of XBox fans who have gone to bat for the console, based on their words. Because if it all turns out to have just been marketing hype bullshit, with nothing concrete to back all the claims up, those Xbox fans will look like absolute chumps... because of Microsoft.
Loxus
Member
This doesn't sound right as Fortnite is only available via download and has a PS5 version, plus most likely will be cross play.Welp looks like Fortnite isn't backward compatible on ps5
How does BC even apply to Fortnite?
HAL-01
Member
Not RT. Look at the very beginning of the clip, under the arm of the guy on the right. As he flails you can see reflections disappear when he occludes the reflected elements. It is screen-space.
I wouldnt trust NX gamer when it comes to RT, I had a lengthy discussion a while ago on the missing RT reflections on the newer R&C gameplay, which were accurate originally, whereas he incorrectly claimed they had been "fixed"
ZehDon
Gold Member
sircaw
Banned
MrPotato
Member
yea, I didn't think much before posting, my bad
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
I'm way too drunk to comment on if it's RT or not, but the fact Ubisoft have confirmed it will launch with RT kinda gives weight to NXGamer saying it's RT.
martino
Member
if you look closely the puddles when the first guy is spraying you can see reflection disapear (even if it's short in the gif)
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geordiemp
Member
Loxus
Member
But you still found something interesting.
I'm wondering if the PS5 version will have RT + 60FS.
J_Gamer.exe
Member
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
As long as you drink too every time you say something is FUD that is the proved to be true like the 15 second load timesThen we can all get sloshed...
Tbf mate, that Dirt 5 was from an old build that Codemasters said has already been improved and load times lowered.
I'm game for the latter though. Only have a bit of Jameson left but when you've had as much to drink as I have though, it all tastes the same!
sircaw
Banned
There is more than meets the eye with this comparison.
WHAT ARE YOU NOT TELLING US. IS there a crying game moment in this analogy?
Loxus
Member
This makes it clear Dirt 5 is sponsored Microsoft.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Aaaaaand he should nothing. It's a damage control video. How low they went by sharing his shitty video.
By the way, it's a 4K video, not 1080p. He's lying, like all the shills we know.
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PaintTinJr
Member
But specifically with Dirt(where your speed will be below 100Mph most of the time) is the mode really needed and is it wise to chase such a tiny capable TV niche, when it leaves you with a game that could visually scale better - especially with the car deformation processing handicap it already has for rendering?
max speed likely 100mile per hour (in rallying), but typically less
100 * 1.61 *1000= 161,000m/h
second per hour = 3600
so 161000/3600 = 44.7metres per second @ max speed
while at max speed and changing direction
@ 30fps 1 frame of time lets the car travel = 1.49m before direction change
@ 60fps = 0.745m
@ 120fps = 0.37m
And at typical speeds the direction changes are proportionally shorter distances giving improved control over direction.
So, does this rally game need a 120fps mode? based on the precision @ 60fps and visual downgrade, I would say "no", it is a nice to have, but sub 1metre control should be enough.
F1/GT/Forza and probably Toca, I could make the case for it- on gameplay - for the feedback benefit at really high speeds and have even preferred screen tear @ 60fps than 30fps for those metrics.
100 * 1.61 *1000= 161,000m/h
second per hour = 3600
so 161000/3600 = 44.7metres per second @ max speed
while at max speed and changing direction
@ 30fps 1 frame of time lets the car travel = 1.49m before direction change
@ 60fps = 0.745m
@ 120fps = 0.37m
And at typical speeds the direction changes are proportionally shorter distances giving improved control over direction.
So, does this rally game need a 120fps mode? based on the precision @ 60fps and visual downgrade, I would say "no", it is a nice to have, but sub 1metre control should be enough.
F1/GT/Forza and probably Toca, I could make the case for it- on gameplay - for the feedback benefit at really high speeds and have even preferred screen tear @ 60fps than 30fps for those metrics.
Flippo
Neo Member
Looks like screen space reflection. Visible on screen, flipped, mirrored and blurred in the puddle. Reflection missing when object is obscured. Doesn't look like Ray tracing..i think he is wrong
watch the reflection in the puddle
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