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demigod
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What were you saying again?
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Three Jackdaws
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Good point, I remember Matt Hargett (ex-Playstation engineer) in RGT's podcast mentioned that BVH intersection calculations would need to be considered when the geometry is culled, I definitely think Sony have considered this and there could be some sort of solution within the Geometry Engine.
Handy Fake
Member
... I actually understood that. I need to get outside more.
sircaw
Banned
i don't think i can hate you anymore than at this present moment.
Nowcry
Member
If you use the shaders as calculation power, it all comes down to solving a mathematical equation. Straight intersection with plane and ideal bounce.
There can be no problem getting the intersections, it seems very strange to me. Those equations are more than chewed up.
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Metroiddarks
Member
He is salty because Playstation doesn't answer his questions, but he is not a dev so sorry(?).
I would love if sony to give a playstation to almost all other media except DF, yes I know is not a good idea Eurogamer is big and
also is better to have videos from them than have nothing.
But man just the fact to have Alex saying constantly shit, all the discord thing, Richard using his doubts as ¨reasonable¨
doubts/worries for PS5 and be part in some way of the marketing Xbox is not something you want to have in an impartial media.
They are engineers but the are not game devs or similar.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
You mean the thing that was constantly was debunked by 99 percent of developers?
Handy Fake
Member
Well, if I'm correct...
Say there's a tunnel going through a mountain in a game with raytracing.
You look down the tunnel and there's a bend in it, beyond that bend (where you can't see) there'll be culling - as in it won't be rendered to save on processing.
However, the raytracing will still be active, and a light source outside, say the sun, will shine through that unrendered part of the tunnel when it's not supposed to and create weird lighting effects.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Because developers had a history of putting their footsies in the mouths (in the beginning of the gen).
Assassin's Creed "Parity": Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
Assassin's Creed Unity will run at 900p/30fps on both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, Ubisoft has confirmed, with the publisher opting to aim for platform parity to avoid discussion over the differences in performance. "We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"...www.neogaf.com
What's this have to do with a marketing deal forcing parity?
Elog
Member
The problem is not to run intersections. The problem is to prioritise which intersections to run or in other words how to make the smallest amount of calculations with the best visual outcome as possible. It is the prioritisation that is key to performance - and that is tricky.
Reading the Sony AR it is clear that they have spent a lot of resources on exactly this part with libraries for developers etc.
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Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
sircaw
Banned
If i have my way there will be a culling around here very soon. Yep i am out.
Fuck this place and hope all of you technical people BURN IN HELL, fucking party poopers the lot of you
This site better improve in the next 4 weeks, we need less not more information form Microsoft and Sony.
Disgusting.
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sandkiller
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Devs do sometimes say the darnedest things sometimes, huh? Ambiguity and all.
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smallpotatosan
Member
azure is fine. it's going to be bigger than AWS in the enterprise world. and Xbox is only a small unit. as a developer. it doesn't really matter to MS as of now. As a developer, I never liked MS and their bloated SDK. this is admittedly where my bias comes from. then all those FUDs really annoyed me. those fanatic fanboys are doing more harm than good to MS. yet MS execs like to hang out with them. it's a shame.
MS has talented engineers. they will do well without the defence force. If MS management was humble, this gen will start a lot better for them. But nope, they want to show they are the big boy. As soon as the management realized the execution cannot keep up, it's all the damage control after because almost everything they bragged about has backfired. for example, where is this 4k/60 target narrative now? where is this 100GB instantly accessible asset? Everyone is talking about the arrogant Sony. But in my definition, MS is the arrogant one here. Anyhow, some random rants here. I want a successful Xbox too for the sake of competition. it is supposed to be a good thing not a war. nowadays whatever i say will be treated as fanboy rubbish as someone says. it's simply insane.
Yeah, I mean these upscaled games, maybe like demon souls 60fps mode look like 4k anyway, if indeed that's what it is doing.
Maybe if they do have a patented next gen upscaling they could call it a fancy marketing 4k name to sell it.
AlsoBo_Hazem i wonder where nx gamers demon souls video from your thread analysis went that was meant for last week?
I mean their tv’s use the x1 chip and it’s far and away better at upscaling than the competition in the tv space. Playing Bloodborne on a B9 OLED and 950g, the Sony tv looked fantastic compared to the muddy upscaling on the B9 OLED. Granted that’s an older chipset, but still, seems like they do have in-house expertise on upscaling they could leverage from their tv and imaging divisions.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
You're wasting my time with this Sokrates mode. Anyway, have nice day/night.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"
"Technically we're CPU-bound," he said. "The GPUs are really powerful, obviously the graphics look pretty good, but it's the CPU [that] has to process the AI, the number of NPCs we have on screen, all these systems running in parallel.
Do we really need to go back and se how shitty Unity was at launch on both machines? So I will ask again, what does this have to do with a marketing deal forcing parity?
Mr Moose
Member
Xbox One had marketing deal on that game.
I think it's the only Ass Creed game that has forced parity.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Facts are facts. Go ahead and show me all this parity and how DIrt 5 is being possibly held back by a marketing deal.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yep that's one of my concern but I do hope that the trigger even when blocked allow some more on the beotian side indidividuals to just force through the blocking without breaking it.
Finem Orientis
Member
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla: Deep Dive Trailer
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I guess the parity forced the game to run like shit on both?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
In "resolution" mode, the game runs in an apparently uncapped frame rate; this bounces between 30fps and 60fps, which averages out to roughly 40fps. This mode's dynamic resolution maxes out near 2160p and falls as low as an apparent 1440p. (Compared to Xbox One's heavily aliased DiRT 4, the jump in resolution this time around is very appreciated.) Drop to DiRT 5's middle "frame rate" setting, and you'll see a mild hit to texture pop-in on the ground ahead of you, along with a noticeable hit to shadow pop-in in the near distance. Settings are otherwise mostly left intact, other than a dynamic resolution that scales down lower, while the frame rate gets close to, but doesn't lock to, 60fps.
DiRT 5 and our first Xbox Series X “enhanced” tests: 120Hz saves the uneven ride [Updated]
A bleeding-edge Xbox Series X feature impresses, but it deserves a prettier game.
arstechnica.com
Also they had their crops:
This is 400% zoom they made, this is "Resolution" mode:
This is 120Hz mode:
It's an eyesore to look at.
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xacto
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Mr Moose
Member
But it could have ran like shit at a bit higher resolution! lol
xacto
Member
I wonder if that haptic feel can be disabled in settings or something similar? There will be probably a lot of people who will go 'wtf is going on?!"
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Well hot damn. Im glad that Xbox deal forced it to 900P at 22 FPS on PS4 vs 1080p at 19 FPS. Clearly what Microsoft was after with that one.
FranXico
Member
What happened last time Cerny answered his questions?
yewles1
Member
Wait, it never actually REACHES full 4K according to Ars?In "resolution" mode, the game runs in an apparently uncapped frame rate; this bounces between 30fps and 60fps, which averages out to roughly 40fps. This mode's dynamic resolution maxes out near 2160p and falls as low as an apparent 1440p. (Compared to Xbox One's heavily aliased DiRT 4, the jump in resolution this time around is very appreciated.) Drop to DiRT 5's middle "frame rate" setting, and you'll see a mild hit to texture pop-in on the ground ahead of you, along with a noticeable hit to shadow pop-in in the near distance. Settings are otherwise mostly left intact, other than a dynamic resolution that scales down lower, while the frame rate gets close to, but doesn't lock to, 60fps.
DiRT 5 and our first Xbox Series X “enhanced” tests: 120Hz saves the uneven ride [Updated]
A bleeding-edge Xbox Series X feature impresses, but it deserves a prettier game.
Also they had their crops:
This is 400% zoom they made, this is "Resolution" mode:
This is 120Hz mode:
It's an eyesore to look at.
Aceofspades
Banned
Rich always bringing Xbox to the picture everytime he thinks Xbox would look favourable.
Poor man was SURPRISED by how BIG the motherboard was...really Rich? More than 95% of all all electronics are designed using ONE motherboard like PS5, its Xbox who opted for Two sheets design. He is just trying to slip in MS complement so hard ... Yeesh
Also I see some concerns regarding the soldered SSD on PS5! Ok Rich , I get it that Sony doesn't communicate with you, but why didn't you ask your buddies at microsoft about the same issue since Xbox AND PS5 have soldered SSDs?
Also I love the skiptisim about WiFi6. Lol...really Rich?
Also since he loves to brings Xbox whenever he can notice how he didn't mention them when he talked about:
- SSD raw output (2.4 wont sound impressive compared to PS5 5.5)
- he didn't bring up Xbox when talking about USB ports...we know how Xbox compare in that area..
- he didn't mention Xbox when talking about WiFi6 , instead he was like...not sure we can reach those figures!! WTF man, was it so hard to praise Sony for future proofing threir console?
In the end, his opinion is worthless and the best thing is..Sony thinks that too
Poor man was SURPRISED by how BIG the motherboard was...really Rich? More than 95% of all all electronics are designed using ONE motherboard like PS5, its Xbox who opted for Two sheets design. He is just trying to slip in MS complement so hard ... Yeesh
Also I see some concerns regarding the soldered SSD on PS5! Ok Rich , I get it that Sony doesn't communicate with you, but why didn't you ask your buddies at microsoft about the same issue since Xbox AND PS5 have soldered SSDs?
Also I love the skiptisim about WiFi6. Lol...really Rich?
Also since he loves to brings Xbox whenever he can notice how he didn't mention them when he talked about:
- SSD raw output (2.4 wont sound impressive compared to PS5 5.5)
- he didn't bring up Xbox when talking about USB ports...we know how Xbox compare in that area..
- he didn't mention Xbox when talking about WiFi6 , instead he was like...not sure we can reach those figures!! WTF man, was it so hard to praise Sony for future proofing threir console?
In the end, his opinion is worthless and the best thing is..Sony thinks that too
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Yeah sorry about that but this isn’t an assassins creed game, this is something new and I prefer they change the name to Valhalla : Not Assassins Creed.
Dodkrake
Banned
Those same people can also force crayons on their skull, doesn't mean we should stop making them.
zubairali2
Member
In "resolution" mode, the game runs in an apparently uncapped frame rate; this bounces between 30fps and 60fps, which averages out to roughly 40fps. This mode's dynamic resolution maxes out near 2160p and falls as low as an apparent 1440p. (Compared to Xbox One's heavily aliased DiRT 4, the jump in resolution this time around is very appreciated.) Drop to DiRT 5's middle "frame rate" setting, and you'll see a mild hit to texture pop-in on the ground ahead of you, along with a noticeable hit to shadow pop-in in the near distance. Settings are otherwise mostly left intact, other than a dynamic resolution that scales down lower, while the frame rate gets close to, but doesn't lock to, 60fps.
DiRT 5 and our first Xbox Series X “enhanced” tests: 120Hz saves the uneven ride [Updated]
A bleeding-edge Xbox Series X feature impresses, but it deserves a prettier game.
Also they had their crops:
This is 400% zoom they made, this is "Resolution" mode:
This is 120Hz mode:
It's an eyesore to look at.
i thought i saw minecraft steve and the creepers on the right
this some good shit im smoking
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
A bit more context please.
sandkiller
Member
Yes and they could've capitalized it as a new IP instead of sticking the AC logo on it. That's my 2 cents anyway.
Rich always bringing Xbox to the picture everytime he thinks Xbox would look favourable.
Poor man was SURPRISED by how BIG the motherboard was...really Rich? More than 95% of all all electronics are designed using ONE motherboard like PS5, its Xbox who opted for Two sheets design. He is just trying to slip in MS complement so hard ... Yeesh
Also I see some concerns regarding the soldered SSD on PS5! Ok Rich , I get it that Sony doesn't communicate with you, but why didn't you ask your buddies at microsoft about the same issue since Xbox AND PS5 have soldered SSDs?
Also I love the skiptisim about WiFi6. Lol...really Rich?
Also since he loves to brings Xbox whenever he can notice how he didn't mention them when he talked about:
- SSD raw output (2.4 wont sound impressive compared to PS5 5.5)
- he didn't bring up Xbox when talking about USB ports...we know how Xbox compare in that area..
- he didn't mention Xbox when talking about WiFi6 , instead he was like...not sure we can reach those figures!! WTF man, was it so hard to praise Sony for future proofing threir console?
In the end, his opinion is worthless and the best thing is..Sony thinks that too
Take a shot every time DF mentions Microsoft in a Sony video. It’s a fun game, not good for productivity.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Gold Edition for me. Loved every minute of Origins, Odyssey. Well, played them all but Rogue.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I hope more outlets to "man-up" and show bullshit as it is without pouring too much perfume to mask it like DF.
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Think it'll have a hard stop in the design of the controller so you can't put maximum pressure on the motor.
jasondefaoite
Member
Like NXGamer, Richard did zero research on this and just mentioned the max theoretical speed of the spec, without really understanding what he is saying. No device I'm aware of supports 4x4 160+160MHz in WiFi6 which is the only way to reach 9.6Gbps. The PS5 max speed is 1.2Gbps, and in reality 800-900Mbps.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Anyone think this is a neat for games?
Take a game like Demon Souls for example. With the adaptive triggers heavier weapons can make the trigger more difficult to pull.
So if you swinging a short sword it should be really easy to pull the trigger. But a much heavier weapon like the infamous Zweinhander should be alot more difficult to pull.
I'm actually hoping that Demon Souls does something like this.
Take a game like Demon Souls for example. With the adaptive triggers heavier weapons can make the trigger more difficult to pull.
So if you swinging a short sword it should be really easy to pull the trigger. But a much heavier weapon like the infamous Zweinhander should be alot more difficult to pull.
I'm actually hoping that Demon Souls does something like this.
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Wow...Big Navi will have 128 ROPS and 256 bit bus.
Some people seem to be concerned because it's "only 256 bit" but from what RedGamingTech and MLiD have said (as well as a few other credible leakers) is that RDNA 2 will have really good memory bandwidth thank's to it's caching system, I know the same will apply for PS5 and maybe even the Series X.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Racing games are the worst for tearing, you really need to lock a framerate on these. The constant forward motion...
Edit: I should add that I can totally see the value of unlocked modes in all games, due to how this will boost performance on future consoles. But please offer a locked option as well.
Coming back again, thanks to
FeiRR
and others, PS4 and consoles in general should have VSYNC on by default. It could add some latency when on, like Freesync and G-Sync. Some seem to turn it off:
Re: ps4 pro vsync
Contact Sony then for problems with your Sony device. https://www.playstation.com/en-us/corporate/contactus/ Hope this helps.
answers.ea.com
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What is VSync, and why do you need it? | Digital Trends
VSync is a useful tool for calibrating your monitor’s frame-by-frame performance, but is it a necessary feature? Here’s everything you need to know about it.
www.digitaltrends.com
Some probably are playing on those retard monitors instead of TV's, and seems VSYNC isn't compatible with some of them.
So this answers you why I didn't experience screen tearing ever on PS4.
MasterCornholio
Member
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
The 128 ROPS and 256 bit bus tweet is in reference to "Big Navi" aka AMD's highest end dGPU, sorry I should have mentioned that in the original post and yes PS5 does have 256 bit bus.
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xacto
Member
AC Black Flag was the last AC game I played for the story... after that, it was 90% playing them for the naval battles. I hope this one will have some good naval action.
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