travisktl
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I know, right? I love my Souls games in 60fps, but I’m definitely experiencing this in the cinematic mode first.
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duhmetree
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megreotsugua
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So this one is actually running on a PS4? Wow looks good. I thought it was PS5 when it was first leaked.
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Three Jackdaws
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I'm not a fan of the Souls series, but this game looks wayyyy to good to pass up and honestly I would be spoilt for choice when it comes to the cinematic and performance mode. Personally I'm a sucker for high resolution and high visual fidelity, so I'll go with cinematic mode as well!
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Okay so remember the reveal trailer? The Flamelurker's cutscene was in there and today we got to see that same scene but in the performance mode. I thought we could get an idea of what the fidelity mode would look like by comparing the reveal and yesterday's gameplay but somehow, the performance mode looks better than what appears to be the fidelity mode from the first trailer, lol. Also they changed the design to look closer to the original.
Reveal:
Gameplay:
Quick Gif:
So to think it will look even better than that is crazy.
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GreyHand23
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Okay so remember the reveal trailer? The Flamelurker's cutscene was in there and today we got to see that same scene but in the performance mode. I thought we could get an idea of what the fidelity mode would look like by comparing the reveal and yesterday's gameplay but somehow, the performance mode looks better than what appears to be the fidelity mode from the first trailer, lol. Also they changed the desing to look closer to the original.
Reveal:
Gameplay:
Quick Gif:
So to think it will look even better than that is crazy.
The reveal was also performance mode.
Sinthor
Gold Member
I'm waiting for the market to mature just a bit (I'm thinking that means 2021 hopefully) but these games and the PS5 are going to make me upgrade to a 4k TV, I'm 99.9% certain. I just want to see more options with HDMI 2.1, including receivers. Right now there are only a few receivers that handle 2.1 and the cheapest is about $800 afaik...
Imtjnotu
Member
PS5?
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Am nope, the fidelity mode runs at a native 4K/30 and according to DF that reveal video runs at a native 2160p in every shot they tested. Timestamped:
And it gets confirmed again later that's running at 4K/30.:
I think you are confusing the very first reveal trailer and the first demo from last month
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ArcaneNLSC
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Great breakdown on how the controller works and how advanced it really is. Crazy how it's catching everybody by surprise.
I like the panel color change on the PS5. Custom side panel market is going to huge. People making they're own designs as well like he did. People love personalizing their things
Saberus
Member
Am nope, the fidelity mode runs at a native 4K/30 and according to DF that reveal video runs at a native 2160p in every shot they tested. Timestamped:
And it gets confirmed again later that's running at 4K/30.:
I think you are confusing the very first reveal trailer and the first demo from last month
Yup, the last two game play trailers are performance mode, per the developer, they haven't showed the eye candy mode yet for game play.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Did anyone try this one?. Because it’s a goddamn fun and for those who love Bloodborne, you need to have this one even if your friends or family don’t know the game, it’s ok they can play.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
The very first trailer from June was made from in game cinematics. The scenes you see before each boss fight and the game's intro. That trailer was native 4K/30 so I'm sure the scenes from that trailer are meant to be from the fidelity mode due to the fact that are running at the exact same target that Bluepoint have said the fidelity mode will run at. That's where the first pic in my post is from.Yup, the last two game play trailers are performance mode, per the developer, they haven't showed the eye candy mode yet for game play.
MastaKiiLA
Member
DS and MM are just launch games. Even R&C is just launch window. HFW and GOW are probably going to be the early gen2 games, at best. The future looks bright for gaming visuals on the new consoles. Lumen in the Land of Nanite might just be tip of the iceberg of what the next Uncharted game could look like. These are good times.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Nickolaidas
Member
That's a Mind Flayer and he's running towards you to literally eat your brains while you are stunned by his Mind Blast and can only drool like an idiot for the next five seconds.I love how this Squidward looking dude looks funny on the PS3 version but terrifying on the PS5.
TLZ
Banned
What's desing?Okay so remember the reveal trailer? The Flamelurker's cutscene was in there and today we got to see that same scene but in the performance mode. I thought we could get an idea of what the fidelity mode would look like by comparing the reveal and yesterday's gameplay but somehow, the performance mode looks better than what appears to be the fidelity mode from the first trailer, lol. Also they changed the desing to look closer to the original.
Reveal:
Gameplay:
Quick Gif:
So to think it will look even better than that is crazy.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
onesvenus
Member
And some people here were implying that the patent about clocks, the one about BC, was somehow related to the frequency-changing thing that RDNA2 CUs are doing
People are reading whatever they want to read, even when they have clear technical documents in front of them.
Lance McDonald, the guy who did the Bloodborne patch and who has access to BluePoint studios said that just until very recently DS was running at 1440p. Just like DF claimed the game was against what our own technically-savy folks were saying.
DF 1 - PS Neogaf 0
TLZ
Banned
Hehe. It's ok. I thought it's a term I never heard of.My bad, I meant design. I'll edit it
xacto
Member
I think they will not 4k, they will dynamic 4k. But first, games always has been better optimized in consoles, and we don’t know what settings this game is running in consoles
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Well, at first it was said that it would run at 4K/30 on XSX. But now we are told that somehow it will run at double the framarate and at the same resolution. So I think is pretty clear that they're obviously making some sacrifices and my best bet is that they're upscaling the resolution.
nope, they said the game was running over 30 FPS, so people though was unlocked or they would lock to 30
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user1337
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I want a 1440p, 60fps, ray traced shadows and lighting, and improved tessellation mode.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
True, I remember them saying something like "it runs at least at 30fps". Maybe Ubisoft optimized the hell out of the game to reach 60fps these past months.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I swear he doesn’t know what he just posted.
I want a 1440p, 60fps, ray traced shadows and lighting, and improved tessellation mode.
I want 1080p/60fps ultra settings from all games xD. FullHD user here.
danielJackson
Banned
Also think if you really need "full" hdmi 2.1 receiver? when there are 400€ ones that already support parts of it, USA electronics are always cheaper so it should be like 300-400$ there
After eARC become a thing, it is also possible to connect devices directly on TV and receiver still gets HD audio. And these things are now so highly integrated that there isnt really difference between using devices - > tv -> eARC receiver Vs devices -> receiver -> tv. you can even use both, some connected to tv, some to receiver and all should work, even with just TVs remote
I have had Sony STR-DN1080 receiver for maybe 3 years now, and it still gets updates, latest came few weeks ago https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/downloads/00016980 and they have already added eARC support from 2.1 + dolby vision pass trough.
and best part is that it is cheap, 399€ when I bought it years ago, it have great sound quality, great features and dolby atmos if someone needs it. https://www.whathifi.com/sony/str-dn1080/review and have won yearly award 3 times in a row. So if you dont need full 2.1, this is good option to buy from sales
Not sure if it is possible to add all 2.1 features like 120hz pass trough ( I havent checked it as I dont have tv like that), but with arc/earc it should not be needed. I have some consoles/devices connected on the amp and some on tv, all work and inputs are switched automatically.
I have 1080p Sony tv and 4k oled would be tempting, but I will wait and see how games look on this tv before doing anything
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geordiemp
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And some people here were implying that the patent about clocks, the one about BC, was somehow related to the frequency-changing thing that RDNA2 CUs are doing
People are reading whatever they want to read, even when they have clear technical documents in front of them.
Lance McDonald, the guy who did the Bloodborne patch and who has access to BluePoint studios said that just until very recently DS was running at 1440p. Just like DF claimed the game was against what our own technically-savy folks were saying.
DF 1 - PS Neogaf 0
The only ones of interest for me where the 2 VRS ones, in particular the last one that uses meshes and the performance increase IPC for VR was noteably very large.
Then there is allot of teases by matt on allot of subjects such as caches.
I cant find the one where he teases about shared L1. I will find it.
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Lunatic_Gamer
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This is what some people would call “First World Problems”.
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xacto
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PS5 Accessibility Options Detailed, Screen Reader and Colour Correction
Plus already existing PS4 features
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buenoblue
Member
I successfully pre-ordereda ps5 from Curry's in the uk and paid £5 deposit. Got an email yesterday saying they've raised the price of preorder ps5's by£2000! But they then give me a code for £2000 off? Then made it sound as if I have to enter a lottery to see if I actually get a ps5????? What the fuck. Any one else got this email?
Luckily I have another fully paid preorder from argos, though I'm still nervous.
Luckily I have another fully paid preorder from argos, though I'm still nervous.
Zathalus
Member
The 2000 thing is to prevent scalpers I believe.
Dodkrake
Banned
You don't need to find excuses for big ol' Rich. He knows exactly why he said it.
cragarmi
Member
Lets be frank about this.
The issues with XSX|S that most people had isn't that it has games that do crossgen, the problem is that it made the decision not to do ANY next gen exclusives for 2 years.
Then the whole HALO shitstorm happened, and people blamed it on not being made only for NextGen (DF i'm looking at you).
That was a furfey. They just fucked up with Halo. I think everyone is pretty happy with the crossgen game quality on the PS5 that we have seen so far AND its getting exclusives. Crossgen is is fine so long as it looks good.
FunkMiller
Member
Console Gaming 40 years
Neo Member
Both consoles blow away 2080s.
DarkParadise
Member
Basically teasing that its the same case for the PS5, to get around the embargo.
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3liteDragon
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Flippo
Neo Member
But I want te see / hear the xsx running next gen games with all the bells and whistles. Off course it's silent running back compat games
LG CX imo, the Sony X900H i think is an okay buy. It also kinda depends on the room, my LG gets kinda washed out in the day cause of my massive south facing windows.
not sure about that yet. I suspect RT will be more limited in the consoles than on a RTX 2080s, also the problem with comparing hardware is that software features like DLSS is so kinda integral to the product.Both consoles blow away 2080s.
Loxus
Member
If you really understand the PS5 I/O,
A matter in fact, if you understand how the PS5's CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, and I/O works together.
You'll see XBSX doesn't really win in the Framerate + Resolution department.
When Cerny said: "As the player is turning around. It's possible to load textures for everything behind the player in that split second."
He's also implying, those textures that are behind the player that would normally be rendered.
Aren't anymore, thus freeing up a lot of resources and resulting in better framerate and resolution.
And that's only one of the many advantages the PS5 has.
People really needs to stop banking hard with this 12 TF BS.
"If you just calculate teraflops you get the same number, but actually the performance is noticeably different because teraflops is defined as the computational capability of the vector ALU."
"That's just one part of the GPU there are a lot of other units and those other units all run faster when the GPU frequency is higher at 33% higher frequency rasterization goes 33% faster processing the command buffer goes that much faster the 2 and other caches have that much higher bandwidth and so on."
Although, I'll admit it will take time as developers will still use old techniques.
But any game design around the I/O, will have major benefits.
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