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[HeisenbergFX4]

Ahhh didn't know that. I rarely use twitter. Like the only time I used it was for batphone on EQ. I would probably take out Activision though.

Yeah even thats tough removing the CoDs, WoW and so many others.

 

[mckmas8808]

im really curious about PS5s RAM setup. It can't be GGDR6 because if it was Cerny would have said so in that initial article. I think they are doing something special there...



most of their games are kinda AA games. they don't really have that amazing system seller yet. this is where The Initiative comes in.

I think it's because O onQ123 maybe on to something. Read the sentences below from AMD.

I think this is the important part for a console


"In contrast, true 3D stacking consists of two die (in this case, memory and a processor) placed on top of each other and connected through vertical TSV connections that mate the die directly together. These TSV connections, which transfer data between the two die at the fastest speeds possible, typically reside in the center of the die. That direct mating increases performance and reduces power consumption (all data movement requires power, but direct connections streamline the process). 3D stacking also affords density advantages. "

 

[it_wasn't_me]

it was an awful product. it sold 25million copies and had no good games and didn't work about 30% of the time. i bought one. had it plugged in for about 5min unplugged it and that was it. he based he entire nexgen on it.
and project natal existed before he got onboard.

Yeah, Peter Molyneux started that A.I project long ago presented in Fable, but i was finished under Mattrick as Project X, later Natal then Kinect in the end.

 

[Evilms]

That's hilarious he didn't put MS on that list.

I don't know the reason, but if we have to be honest apart from the forza horizon and ori, Microsoft has missed everything since 2010.

 

[Iamthedarkcloud]

For what I'm seeing here and what I believe both consoles will have around the same GPU and Tf. MS probably will have a better CPU and sony better memory (ram and ssd). That said both will have similar prices. I think in the last 2 years MS have been working to acquire softhouses so they can compete better with sony when it comes to exclusives. That will be an interesting battle. As a Sony fan I'm really interested in what both of them are doing and I'm confident in both consoles.

 

[TeamGhobad]

I bet that no matter who has the power edge, Naughty Dog will have the game with the best visuals

The Initiative is going to be MS' flagship studio. Let's wait before making that statement.

 

[sonomamashine]

 

[Rossco EZ]

Changing tack from specs/price for a minute. Does anyone have any thoughts on this quote from the Jim Ryan interview with Gamesindustry?

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...-had-to-make-changes-to-deliver-our-ps5-dream



Reading the rest of the article and it is clear Sony have streamlined and globalised the business in preparation for the above plan over the last year or two. I'm struggling to see how they'll be able to convince the 35+ million PS+ subscribers to buy a PS5 asap. Especially so if it is $500 or nearly £500. Even at $399/£349 it would be a surprise they'd beat PS4's ~18 million year one sales.

i can honestly see them bundling deals with psnow and even some new service we haven’t seen yet.. maybe some sort is ps+/psnow premium service?

 

[Hobbygaming]

The Initiative is going to be MS' flagship studio. Let's wait before making that statement.

They do have some talent over there but from what I understand they're still a rather small studio. Naughty Dog is a cut above the rest but we shall see

 

[R600]

So Klee ghosted entire Reee yesterday and now he is like "I wont post them because that would bring heat on my 3rd party friend, and I work 12hr nightshifts at Alaska so I wasnt here after that last shit show of a post"

Lol...cant wait for him to gain enough fans and makes youtube channel.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So Klee ghosted entire Reee yesterday and now he is like "I wont post them because that would bring heat on my 3rd party friend, and I work 12hr nightshifts at Alaska so I wasnt here after that last shit show of a post"

Lol...cant wait for him to gain enough fans and makes youtube channel.

He mentioned a few days ago he was considering that very thing starting his own channel.

 

[TeamGhobad]

IGN xbox 600dollars:

 

[xool]

From Reeeeee :

"I got specs but can't tell" is eeww territory for me ..

 

[44alltheway]

So Klee ghosted entire Reee yesterday and now he is like "I wont post them because that would bring heat on my 3rd party friend, and I work 12hr nightshifts at Alaska so I wasnt here after that last shit show of a post"

Lol...cant wait for him to gain enough fans and makes youtube channel.

From Reeeeee :

"I got specs but can't tell" is eeww territory for me ..

I honestly have no issue with him doing this. He said he talked to the mods which makes it more likely he does have the specs. Yes, it’s annoying that he won’t share them, but if he genuinely believes it could put his source in harm’s way, then I’m fine with him not sharing it. I would like to know if he still stands behind the PS5 being a little bit more powerful than the Series X, though.

 

[R600]

He mentioned a few days ago he was considering that very thing starting his own channel.

Heh...got to build fanbase for that. Smart, from a guy working in Alaska for 12hr night shifts.

 

[FranXico]

I honestly have no issue with him doing this. He said he talked to the mods which makes it more likely he does have the specs. Yes, it’s annoying that he won’t share them, but if he genuinely believes it could put his source in harm’s way, then I’m fine with him not sharing it. I would like to know if he still stands behind the PS5 being a little bit more powerful than the Series X, though.

He did say multiple times that he stands by what he said since start. Having said that, any probable power difference is smaller than last gen.

 

[TheStruggler]

From Reeeeee :

"I got specs but can't tell" is eeww territory for me ..

I hate people who do this weird flex, like if you have info then share it. Dont do the typical "hey guys guys I got the intel you need, but nah fam cant say anything" stop being an attention whore.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Lol honestly no one expected sony to ahift from 399 to 499 and even then take loss . According to huge BOM of xsx is 550 so maybe sony is going 600 amd taking more loss

Something tells me that both companies don't pay the same BOM.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I hate people who do this weird flex, like if you have info then share it. Dont do the typical "hey guys guys I got the intel you need, but nah fam cant say anything" stop being an attention whore.

In all fairness I take it as saying I have the proof when I say PS5 and XeX are within 10% or so of each other in power.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

From Reeeeee :

"I got specs but can't tell" is eeww territory for me ..

I honestly have no issue with him doing this. He said he talked to the mods which makes it more likely he does have the specs. Yes, it’s annoying that he won’t share them, but if he genuinely believes it could put his source in harm’s way, then I’m fine with him not sharing it. I would like to know if he still stands behind the PS5 being a little bit more powerful than the Series X, though.

Like he said, he messed up for saying "i have spec sheets" Well, his own fault

No I definitely messed up admitting I have specs.

I regret that and it was not at all my intention to stir any controversy. I have also explained this to the administration staff.

Honesty I was so tired, I didn't even think much of it at the time.

Not a good excuse, but it's the truth.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ne...-see-staff-post.159131/page-152#post-27583567

 

[TheStruggler]

In all fairness I take it as saying I have the proof when I say PS5 and XeX are within 10% or so of each other in power.

I take it as him being a bitch who wants attention

 

[TeamGhobad]

he can't even say if the ps5 has hbm?! im calling bullshit.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I hate people who do this weird flex, like if you have info then share it. Dont do the typical "hey guys guys I got the intel you need, but nah fam cant say anything" stop being an attention whore.

Anyone have a track record of klee's rumours and claims vs. what actually happened?

 

[TeamGhobad]

are people saying PS5 is 8tflops?!

 

[xool]

Like he said, he messed up for saying "i have spec sheets" Well, his own fault



https://www.resetera.com/threads/ne...-see-staff-post.159131/page-152#post-27583567

Forum attention is a dark dark world.. Not joking. Everyone want you to say something.

..


He should do that youtube thing though, can't be worse than the clowns at giantbomb ..

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I take it as him being a bitch who wants attention

Just curious what else would you like him to say?

We heard the 12 TFs from Windows Central and he has been saying all along both consoles are super close in power.

 

[TheStruggler]

Anyone have a track record of klee's rumours and claims vs. what actually happened?

I personally dont care about his record, more due to the fact if you have it but cant share it you might as well not say shit anyways because all your going to do is stir the pot, have people harass you and throw everything off.

 

[TheStruggler]

Just curious what else would you like him to say?

We heard the 12 TFs from Windows Central and he has been saying all along both consoles are super close in power.

If your not going to actually share then dont say anything period, its like most of reeeee members sayin they all have 9 inch dicks but wont show shit.

 

[44alltheway]

are people saying PS5 is 8tflops?!

main thing he has gotten wrong was Lockhart. He owned up to being wrong about that. Other than that, he said both consoles would be above 10 TFs, have VRS (pretty sure he was the first to say this, and he did so a couple of months ago I believe), and he hinted at the Series X reveal before TGAs.

 

[demigod]

Just curious what else would you like him to say?

We heard the 12 TFs from Windows Central and he has been saying all along both consoles are super close in power.

Klee confirmed the 12TF before Windows Central.

Edit : N/m I'm wrong.

 

[xool]

Anyone have a track record of klee's rumours and claims vs. what actually happened?

There's not much - he saw a cross platform next gen game somewhere on west coast USA - said it looked nuts.

The other thing was that there is negible power difference between PS5 and XboxChonky .. (think he shot down sub 10TF rumors too)

I trust it, but there's not a lot to verify

 

[TeamGhobad]

main thing he has gotten wrong was Lockhart. He owned up to being wrong about that. Other than that, he said both consoles would be above 10 TFs, have VRS (pretty sure he was the first to say this, and he did so a couple of months ago I believe), and he hinted at the Series X reveal before TGAs.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Klee confirmed the 12TF before Windows Central.

Wasnt sure if he said 12 or not that place moves so fast and hurts my head reading some of their comments.

I know he has said all along they were double digits.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

lol just no

 

[44alltheway]

meant to quote another post, my bad lol

 

[Fake]

Right...

 

[xool]

There's a threadmark at the beginngin of the Re thread for those that need to revise

Here's the latest :

Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post) OT

Can you imagine a Silent Hill 2 remake on next-gen?

www.resetera.com

Ignore the stuff about 64CUs at the end though - he backpeddled on that - just messing with someone.

Wasnt sure if he said 12 or not that place moves so fast and hurts my head reading some of their comments.

I know he has said all along they were double digits.

Seemed to confirm :

Dec 13 2019 : Xbox Series X performance is actually slightly ABOVE 12(Navi) TFs

 

[demigod]

Wasnt sure if he said 12 or not that place moves so fast and hurts my head reading some of their comments.

I know he has said all along they were double digits.

N/m I'm wrong. Did not know Windows Central made 2 articles on it, one for Anaconda which they said was 12TF first.

 

[Kazekage1981]

Do we know if PS5 and Xsex will implement (besides Wifi6 with connections up to 10Gbps) these game changing features:

-USB 4.0 or USB Thunderbolt 3.0 with up to 40gbps?
-Bluetooth 5.1 with BLE ?

If gamers wanted additional storage, they could get external SSD hardrive with USB 4.0 or Thunderbolt 3.0 connection speeds.

 

[xool]

Jez Corden claimed 12TF Ananconda on the 9th Dec I think

Inside the target specs of the next Xbox 'Project Scarlett,' 'Anaconda', and 'Lockhart'

Microsoft is gearing up to reveal Xbox "Scarlett" in full in the near future, and we've finally got some credible information on the target specs.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Do we know if PS5 and Xsex will implement (besides Wifi6 with connections up to 10Gbps) these game changing features:

-USB 4.0 or USB Thunderbolt 3.0 with up to 40gbps?
-Bluetooth 5.1 with BLE ?

If gamers wanted additional storage, they could get external SSD hardrive with USB 4.0 or Thunderbolt 3.0 connection speeds.

I won't expect any more than 2 x USB 3.1 Type A and 1 USB 3.1 Type C for both. Anything else/more will be a bonus.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Kleegamefan has been around awhile here he in the late 90s working at Electronic Gaming Monthly. (Lower left)

 

[Fake]

So amazing how the 8~9TF dream is dying from day to other.

 

[TeamGhobad]

Kleegamefan has been around awhile here he in the late 90s working at Electronic Gaming Monthly. (Lower left)

his sources might be old. meaning access to an older devkit. who knows. still no answer on ps5 ram setup.

 

[Kdad]

People getting bent over a <10% difference. Grow up.

Thats the diff between 7" and 7.7"....I know a lot of people that would be begging for that extra 10%

 

[TLZ]

I submit, for you consideration, the FACT...yes FACT, that I ordered a dozen (thats 12 in laymans' terms) donuts this fine morning at my local purveyor of baked sweets.

Upon opening said box at the office just now, we did indeed, INDEED I SAY, have a total of 13 donuts.

It is upon this evidence that I humbly submit that 12 can easily, EASILY, be interpreted as 13. The evidence of this is all around us.

K, dad.

 

[Lort]

Interesting times... so if you look at a combination of all the reputable leakers..
Playstation 13 tf
Xbox 12f
Playstation gpu enhancements - nothing listed
Microsoft gpu enhancements - significant
Playstation cpu slightly slower the xbox cpu
Playstation SSD 4 gB/sec
Xbox SsD 2gB/sec
Noise on playstation probably quiet?
Noise on xbox quiet
Ram on both... noone seems to agree
Price on both EXPENSIVE

Seems likely that playstation will be ahead on TF but not on performance .. but that will depend on the game. (Annoying everyone and ensuring the fanboys wars will last years).

Settle in for a long one

 

[Ar¢tos]

im really curious about PS5s RAM setup. It can't be GGDR6 because if it was Cerny would have said so in that initial article. I think they are doing something special there...

XDR2 - The Return

 

[onQ123]

Interesting times... so if you look at a combination of all the reputable leakers..
Playstation 13 tf
Xbox 12f
Playstation gpu enhancements - nothing listed
Microsoft gpu enhancements - significant
Playstation cpu slightly slower the xbox cpu
Playstation SSD 4 gB/sec
Xbox SsD 2gB/sec
Noise on playstation probably quiet?
Noise on xbox quiet
Ram on both... noone seems to agree
Price on both EXPENSIVE

Seems likely that playstation will be ahead on TF but not on performance .. but that will depend on the game. (Annoying everyone and ensuring the fanboys wars will last years).

Settle in for a long one

Klee said the PS5 devkit was out performing Scarletts devkit

 

[Lort]

Klee said the PS5 devkit was out performing Scarletts devkit

As it would on raw code not using newly developed enhancements...

Thats my prediction we will see what happens.