Serouj2000
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mejin
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yep, use that beautiful ignore button
LiquidRex
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twilo99
Gold Member
This is huge.
A first look at Xbox running Discord and Google Stadia in its new Edge browser - The Verge
This I don't get tho
"Unfortunately, mouse support isn’t available"
It becomes a very capable machine with a chrome browser on board..
A first look at Xbox running Discord and Google Stadia in its new Edge browser - The Verge
This I don't get tho
"Unfortunately, mouse support isn’t available"
It becomes a very capable machine with a chrome browser on board..
MasterCornholio
Member
Doesn't seem that big of a deal to me.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Why would you even entertain the idea of playing stadia... on your Xbox????
It’s an enthusiast forum and all that but geez, some people get excited for really inconsequential stuff.
bitbydeath
Member
We expecting Sony’s reorganisation details to come through soony?
BoxFresh123
Member
This shit had me for a moment 
Shmunter
Member
This shit had me for a moment
Will be funnier if it becomes reality
Neo Blaster
Member
This shit had me for a moment
Ah, April's Fool is just beginning...
Jemm
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Anyone have a snapshot of the article? Their page is already change with a short "you got me" kind of message.
I'm interested to see if the writer simply posted the fake tweet, or if he ran with it with some editorial and bogus insights.
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Jemm
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StreetsofBeige
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Sinthor
Gold Member
Oh that is just too fantastic. Guess the gaming media, like the regular media, doesn't really practice much real journalism anymore.
Metroiddarks
Member
The next 24 hours:
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Insmoniac dev confirmed ML in the ps5 gpu.
Serouj2000
Member
Because of course they did.
Shmunter
Member
Holy crap what a trash rag
Bernd Lauert
Banned
You can run ML inference on pretty much any hardware. The big question is whether PS5 has dedicated ML hardware.Insmoniac dev confirmed ML in the ps5 gpu.
SubZer0
Banned
Nope just like the xsx the ps5 has no dedicated hardware units for Machine Learning
They both Running ML code through the compute Units (shaders)which is supported since RDNA 1.1
SSfox
Member
Still waiting about news and infos related to actual videogames from Microsoft.
SSfox
Member
Wasn't Kotaku also that did the "Chun Li not invited in MK movie" trash piece of article? What a piece of sh** this website is.
Physiognomonics
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The real question was if the PS5 was powerful enough to do it runtime (while displaying 4K DRS 60fps + RT), well yes it can so the dedicated ML hardware point is moot.
Interestingly Xbox PR talk a lot of ML but it is PS5 that is already doing it real-time in current games. We could say the same with RT.
Serouj2000
Member
Remember, though. Article titles almost never tell the full story. Take for example the articles on Nintendo opting for a direct in 2013, 2014, and 2017 (they didn't seem to care that much in 2015 and 2016 didn't even have one at E3)
Shmunter
Member
Shit, he knows
Like clockwork folks are now forgetting what their initial argument was....
Like clockwork.
This was never the real question. It is now tho.
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assurdum
Banned
Can we stop to use this guy as reliable source of something? It's practically the mistermediax and the colteastwood of ps5
MasterCornholio
Member
I mean something big like free online play is something to be excited about. But a web browser?
Just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
assurdum
Banned
Didn't Cerny said it in the Road to ps5? I remembered him talking of ML shortly in the video, why everyone has forget it?
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
That's not the real question since it heavily depends on the workload. Also Xbox does RT just fine
Yep, he just like to misconstrue other peoples tweets
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Feel free to point out my initial argument.
MasterCornholio
Member
I think what he's making a reference to are the arguments that many made in this thread.
Sony Principal Graphics Engineer confirms PS5 has custom architecture that is based on RDNA2. (Update: Read OP)
Please see this post for clarity on this thread going forward https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony-principal-graphics-engineer-confirms-ps5-has-custom-architecture-between-rdna1-2-deletes-tweet-about-ml.1556484/page-10#post-259359612 The same engineer who "confirmed sub-RDNA2" further...
Basically some people assumed the PS5 wouldn't be capable of any form of ML because it has a custom RDNA2 GPU.
Not saying you made this argument though.
LiquidRex
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Thirty7ven
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We are now in the "means nothing" phase, "any hw can theoretically do it". Like clockwork.
It was the same with Ray Tracing, remember when people started talking about software/fake RT on PS5? Yeah. Here we are again.
Almost thirty years of console engineering, and some folks still out here pretending Sony is Nintendo when it comes to HW. Props to MS marketing department and their social media team, they really dumbed it down.
It was the same with Ray Tracing, remember when people started talking about software/fake RT on PS5? Yeah. Here we are again.
Almost thirty years of console engineering, and some folks still out here pretending Sony is Nintendo when it comes to HW. Props to MS marketing department and their social media team, they really dumbed it down.
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bitbydeath
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I think there’s an easy way to discern this.I think what he's making a reference to are the arguments that many made in this thread.
Sony Principal Graphics Engineer confirms PS5 has custom architecture that is based on RDNA2. (Update: Read OP)
Please see this post for clarity on this thread going forward https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony-principal-graphics-engineer-confirms-ps5-has-custom-architecture-between-rdna1-2-deletes-tweet-about-ml.1556484/page-10#post-259359612 The same engineer who "confirmed sub-RDNA2" further...www.neogaf.com
Basically some people assumed the PS5 wouldn't be capable of any form of ML because it has a custom RDNA2 GPU.
Not saying you made this argument though.
Does the muscle update work on PS4?
If yes - it’s not using dedicated ML hardware.
If no - it is using dedicated ML hardware.
There’s absolutely no reason it shouldn’t work on PS4 if it only requires general ML.
Rea
Member
The new muscle deformation effect is exclusive to ONLY PS5, ps4 doesn't have.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
PS4 might not have enough compute budget to add the muscle update on top of everything else. It's not really a good way to deduce things.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Cool.
Hardware based ML.
Very subtle difference, but cool nontheless. Every tiny bit of realism gets us closer to the endgoal.
sncvsrtoip
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bitbydeath
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It’s been said to have next to no performance impact.
Edit: There we go, the quote above me.
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MasterCornholio
Member
I think the biggest rumor that was proven wrong is that the PS5 wasn't capable of ML at all. As you can see from that thread many believed or wanted to believe that.
Now are there tensor like cores that handle ML? Probably not but there are other ways to do ML.
bitbydeath
Member
Yeah, I believe that’s an NVIDIA only feature though. (Correct me if I am wrong)
MasterCornholio
Member
To my knowledge that's correct. It's why Nvidia GPUs have a big advantage with ray tracing and reconstruction technology.
Although on a positive note I still believe these are pretty capable even without tensor like cores.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
PS4 is not Int4/Int8 compatible, which means it would take more ressources (4x more compared to Int4) to do ML inference there.
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