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xPikYx said:
That Godfall trailer is terrible, I really hope that is not the next gen jump, so far only hellblade2 looks like a proper next gen game
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Hell blade 2 is prerendered cutscene(at 24 FPS) . Go and see how beautiful those were in 2000 for final fantasy games . It had no bearing on how the games looked though
 
Disco_ said:
The 14hr difference is alluding to the time difference between japan and east coast.


Godfall was scheduled to release in 2019 and from what I can tell, on pc/ps4/xbone. Small team, not a long dev cycle. People shouldn't expect much from it.
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Yeah, i'm aware. Someone else mentioned a few hours ago.

As for the Castlevania that people are guessing, it would be in a modern time/futuristic setting then. Although it sounds intriguing, who would develop it?
 
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MilkyJoe said:
top tip. when someone starts a post with "has this been posted yet" don't reply with a sigh, as you look like an uppity cockwomble. This thread is 700 pages long
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You're r right. That's why my first response was "The same leak says Ps3 BC and Sony will also reveal more at E3 2020" but you didn't want to believe cause the "not in thst article it doesn't"
 
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David Ricardo said:
I wouldn't compare klee with any of the insiders we have here. Klee hasn't leaked anything that was proven wrong yet. Our insiders both have already done so.
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Fair enough, I would think that's even more reason to be patient with them.

I don't follow Klee though so I can't speak on his reliability, I just heard of the ERA debacle since it was posted here.
 
CJY said:
Have you ever had Sony? I've always Sony, but I'm thinking of making the switch to LG this year. I have the 4K Sony and a 55" Sony W905A 1080P panel. Both are great, but I don't like Android TV on the 4K. Which is why I'm switching it out.

WebOS looks awesome, the magic remote too. And I think Sony's OLED panels are made by LG anyway. (Not sure though)
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I have never had a Sony TV. I've been really happy with their consoles, soundbars, speakers, and headphones over the years and have had LGs for awhile. Guess I just kinda wanted something different and always heard about their quality
 
CJY said:
Have you ever had Sony? I've always Sony, but I'm thinking of making the switch to LG this year. I have the 4K Sony and a 55" Sony W905A 1080P panel. Both are great, but I don't like Android TV on the 4K. Which is why I'm switching it out.

WebOS looks awesome, the magic remote too. And I think Sony's OLED panels are made by LG anyway. (Not sure though)
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LG make and supply all OLED panels i believe, could be wrong but i'm sure i read that somewhere but i had a sony Bravia prior to buying my current C9 OLED and webOS is great. really smooth, never get any lags whilst using apps etc it's just really simple and sleek. i'd recommend getting one :messenger_sunglasses:
 
Roronoa Zoro said:
I have never had a Sony TV. I've been really happy with their consoles, soundbars, speakers, and headphones over the years and have had LGs for awhile. Guess I just kinda wanted something different and always heard about their quality
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my experience with sony products has been really really bad. Both PS1 and PS2 had DRE issues. Especially the PS2. Thanks to the lawsuit, they fixed the PS2 but with the PS3, the YLOD didnt get a lawsuit so i literally had to throw away the $600 launch ps3 after two years.

PS4 didnt die on me, but both the base model and the pro are louder than a cheap hooker. Just to play death stranding late last year, i had to sit it on top of a laptop cooler, and had a tower fan lying sideways blowing air on the pro.

my gold headset snapped at the sides which again like the ylod and the pro fan noise, a very common issue that they dont fix for free.

i have replaced the original controllers three times now. the L3 and R3 buttons wore out after like 700 hours of destiny. bought a replacement and same thing. sent it in like three times before they refused to take it back. my pro controller works fine though.

my Xperia Z1s was one of the buggiest phones ive ever had.

if it wasnt for their first party games, i would be a bonafide sony hater.
 
14 new pages in a day with practically nothing new or substantial posted.

This thread, sometimes...

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Brudda26 said:
How do you get Microsoft and konami from that lmao
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Just looking at Osiris' recent hints and Phil coming out saying he's currently in Japan. Could be something else entirely, who knows.

OsirisBlack said:
MS is definitely KILLING it, shit just got very real. It's safe to say MS will have quite a few new titles for Xbox fans to sink their teeth into.

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It's 5:07am
Or is it 7:07pm
Who calls some this early that excited about game acquisitions? Fucking seriously.
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OsirisBlack said:
Konami
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Capcom
Who's games do you like more?
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OsirisBlack said:
Funny thing is and I won't quote anyone in particular I already posted this same thing a few days ago when I first heard about it. Now it's just official. Thanks Phil. Also you're absolutely right if an entire studio had been purchased you would have heard about it by now.
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Niked said:
It seems Microsoft has gotten yet another high profilen studio and mean while... What the actual fuck are Sony doing? If the silence from Sony are because they have nothing amazing to counter... Then fire Jim Ryan.
Ffs, less advance hardware (roumor), same price as MS (roumor), less exclusive(so far) , less third party deals(so far), soon less studios, less everything as of right now... February event better deliver..
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Feels like 2013 pre reveal FUD all over again in one short post.
 
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SlimySnake said:
my experience with sony products has been really really bad. Both PS1 and PS2 had DRE issues. Especially the PS2. Thanks to the lawsuit, they fixed the PS2 but with the PS3, the YLOD didnt get a lawsuit so i literally had to throw away the $600 launch ps3 after two years.

PS4 didnt die on me, but both the base model and the pro are louder than a cheap hooker. Just to play death stranding late last year, i had to sit it on top of a laptop cooler, and had a tower fan lying sideways blowing air on the pro.

my gold headset snapped at the sides which again like the ylod and the pro fan noise, a very common issue that they dont fix for free.

i have replaced the original controllers three times now. the L3 and R3 buttons wore out after like 700 hours of destiny. bought a replacement and same thing. sent it in like three times before they refused to take it back. my pro controller works fine though.

my Xperia Z1s was one of the buggiest phones ive ever had.

if it wasnt for their first party games, i would be a bonafide sony hater.
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Damn dude. I think my gold's cracked after awhile but I have LOVED the platinums. My L3 buttons wore out on my launch DS4 but I got those covers for them and for like $6 that fixed it

My PS4 sits on a stool in a room that is usually colder than the rest of the house so I never had problems with the noise people complain about (launch PS4 then launch pro). I also almost always have my headphones on so wouldn't hear it anyway. Never had any problems with launch PS1, 2, or 3 either. Did eventually get a slim PS2 and 3 but only cause it was nice to have them smaller. I think youre incredibly unlucky with sony unfortunately
 
OsirisBlack OsirisBlack said it was a Japanese IP MS have brought.

No studio is going to sell an IP they want to continue making or makes them money.

It will be interesting to find out, but I'm guessing other than the shock value of a potential PS exclusive or a game you would associate with PlayStation being Xbox exclusive, this isn't going to change the world.

Same with Techland, I looked at their portfolio and was hit with a wave of "meh" bigger than the one that hit me when it was rumoured Sony were buying Remedy when I looked at their portfolio.

None of these rumours make me concerned or happy, just find myself not caring in the slightest.
 
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Snake29 said:
Where people said that the Wii U would be more powerful then the PS4, and Microsoft would shit over PlayStation for "ones and for all".
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I remember I predicted before WiiU launch that it would be first place off of Wii momentum. At least I called PS beating Xbox due to not being $200 more and a year late.
 
Roronoa Zoro said:
Damn dude. I think my gold's cracked after awhile but I have LOVED the platinums. My L3 buttons wore out on my launch DS4 but I got those covers for them and for like $6 that fixed it

My PS4 sits on a stool in a room that is usually colder than the rest of the house so I never had problems with the noise people complain about (launch PS4 then launch pro). I also almost always have my headphones on so wouldn't hear it anyway. Never had any problems with launch PS1, 2, or 3 either. Did eventually get a slim PS2 and 3 but only cause it was nice to have them smaller. I think youre incredibly unlucky with sony unfortunately
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the stool is actually a great idea. i recently opened the cover of my pro (they let you do that without removing the warranty) and the fan was full of dust. cleaning it didnt make a difference though.

everyone i knew on the gamespot forums had their 60 gb ylod. like everyone. my brother's 40gb that he bought for gta4's launch still runs without any issues over 12 years later. my brother's ps2 slim still works. so yeah, i was extremely unlucky but i understand most of these issues were tied to launch models. the newer pros are almost as quiet as xbox one x consoles.

i think sony just needs to offer at least 2 year warranty. one year simply isnt enough. im definitely buying 2-3 year warranty for my ps5 from bestbuy.
 
SlimySnake said:
my experience with sony products has been really really bad. Both PS1 and PS2 had DRE issues. Especially the PS2. Thanks to the lawsuit, they fixed the PS2 but with the PS3, the YLOD didnt get a lawsuit so i literally had to throw away the $600 launch ps3 after two years.

PS4 didnt die on me, but both the base model and the pro are louder than a cheap hooker. Just to play death stranding late last year, i had to sit it on top of a laptop cooler, and had a tower fan lying sideways blowing air on the pro.

my gold headset snapped at the sides which again like the ylod and the pro fan noise, a very common issue that they dont fix for free.

i have replaced the original controllers three times now. the L3 and R3 buttons wore out after like 700 hours of destiny. bought a replacement and same thing. sent it in like three times before they refused to take it back. my pro controller works fine though.

my Xperia Z1s was one of the buggiest phones ive ever had.

if it wasnt for their first party games, i would be a bonafide sony hater.
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I have had the opposite experience on everything. Since 2000 only Xperia phones, headset and playstations. Tvs been a mixed bag of Brands and last year I bought my first Sony tv (Sony Bravia AF9 OLED 55 UHD) and Its great besides a bit buggy Android os. The only negative experience was the Sony soundbar with Doldby atmos. I felt tricked because I dont get any 7.1 feel from it.
 
SlimySnake said:
the stool is actually a great idea. i recently opened the cover of my pro (they let you do that without removing the warranty) and the fan was full of dust. cleaning it didnt make a difference though.

everyone i knew on the gamespot forums had their 60 gb ylod. like everyone. my brother's 40gb that he bought for gta4's launch still runs without any issues over 12 years later. my brother's ps2 slim still works. so yeah, i was extremely unlucky but i understand most of these issues were tied to launch models. the newer pros are almost as quiet as xbox one x consoles.

i think sony just needs to offer at least 2 year warranty. one year simply isnt enough. im definitely buying 2-3 year warranty for my ps5 from bestbuy.
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I always keep my consoles in more open air areas. Makes it easier to mess with cables and keeps them from getting hot. I put them on top of the entertainment before I started doing the stool. Just gotta be careful with dogs running in. I put a lamp as sort of a buffer for that to keep them outta the wiring area.
 
Chromata said:
Fair enough, I would think that's even more reason to be patient with them.

I don't follow Klee though so I can't speak on his reliability, I just heard of the ERA debacle since it was posted here.
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You are right about that. When you are dealing with someone who's leaking proven wrong information in riddles, you need plenty of patience.
 
ethomaz said:
SSD tech not available can means a lot of thing and not just the PCI-E 4.0 interface.
It is probably a custom solution using PCI-E 4.0 different from any generic SSD solution like the Phison SSD controller.
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What if Sony has their own custom controller they have had or have been working on? 🤔

They have been venturing beyond imaging sensors and into speedy semi conductor controller like design with ReRAM and the like.
 
SlimySnake said:
its bizarre and annoying. if you've got something to say, say it. if you cant leak something because it will compromise your sources, keep silent. respect your audience, and their time.

Mod of War Mod of War what do you of OsirisBlack's riddles? shouldnt he just tell us what he knows. i mean he listed the entire description of the demo he supposedly saw, and yet he cant name the game to protect his sources? surely thats a load of bullshit. he's playing the thread and its getting annoying.
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No. He can drop info in whatever way he and his sources are comfortable with.

We are not in the source compromising or burning business, nor would force them to do so just because we are thirsty.

Things will be official soon enough.
 
Broooo I would die for a high production, 2d metroidvania castlevania with 3d backgrounds, dynamic weather, rotating backgrounds, etc Also I'd like it to be similar to Symphony of the Night but higher production.

If Microsoft locked down Castlevania at a gd price tht would be a great move imo.
 
David Ricardo said:
You are right about that. When you are dealing with someone who's leaking proven wrong information in riddles, you need plenty of patience.
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I was in the middle of working out when I skimmed your original comment and I read it wrong :messenger_tears_of_joy:

I thought you meant that Klee's information was proven wrong.

What info was leaked here that was proven wrong? A lot of info was given and some might be right.
 
Chromata said:
I was in the middle of working out when I skimmed your original comment and I read it wrong :messenger_tears_of_joy:

I thought you meant that Klee's information was proven wrong.

What info was leaked here that was proven wrong? A lot of info was given and some might be right.
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Those Tommy Fisher specs he leaked, show L1 cache numbers per CU. In RDNA architecture the L1 cache numbers are per shader array. Cerny has confirmed RDNA architecture in PS5.
Osirisblack said Series X Raytracing solution is like the one in a 1080ti. The 1080ti doesn't have hardware raytracing. Microsoft already confirmed hardware ray tracing in Series X.
 
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David Ricardo said:
Those Tommy Fisher specs he leaked, show L1 cache numbers per CU. In RDNA architecture the L1 cache numbers are per shader array. Cerny has confirmed RDNA architecture in PS5.
Osirisblack said Series X Raytracing solution is like the one in a 1080ti. The 1080ti doesn't have hardware raytracing. Microsoft already confirmed hardware ray tracing in Series X.
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Not to mention his entirely incorrect claims about the ps4 pro specs
 
Mod of War said:
No. He can drop info in whatever way he and his sources are comfortable with.

We are not in the source compromising or burning business, nor would force them to do so just because we are thirsty.

Things will be official soon enough.
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If we a had dime for every time an insider says soon enough we would all be millionaires by now 😜😂❤( we are thirsty, sorry 😂)
 
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Mod of War said:
No. He can drop info in whatever way he and his sources are comfortable with.

We are not in the source compromising or burning business, nor would force them to do so just because we are thirsty.

Things will be official soon enough.
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When was the last time that dude got verified? Wasn't it under a different administration, too? I think he should be verified again.

Out of all the "insiders" that guy is the only one that raises all the red flags for me, he sounds very manuplitave with all his winks and riddles, it's very suspicious how he still hadn't got verified at era despite initiating the verification process weeks ago.
 
Tenka Musou said:
When was the last time that dude got verified? Wasn't it under a different administration, too? I think he should be verified again.

Out of all the "insiders" that guy is the only one that raises all the red flags for me, he sounds very manuplitave with all his winks and riddles, it's very suspicious how he still hadn't got verified at era despite initiating the verification process weeks ago.
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Or maybe he just don't say what you want to hear?
 
5600XT reviews are interesting. The observed clocks between the OG bios and the faster bios are roughly the same in practice but power consumption goes up due to the 1000Mhz ram speed increase.

This pretty much shows that running 18gbps ram on a 256bit bus is going to be very power intensive so a 320 or 384bit bus is far far more likely for both consoles.

I am pretty convinced that the sweet spot for die size, performance and power consumption is a chip around 60CUs (56 active) 384 bit bus, 24 GB GDDR6 ram and 64 rops. There is a bit of wiggle room here but it really seems like that is the most cost effective config to get in the 12Tflop ball park.
 
Tenka Musou said:
When was the last time that dude got verified? Wasn't it under a different administration, too? I think he should be verified again.

Out of all the "insiders" that guy is the only one that raises all the red flags for me, he sounds very manuplitave with all his winks and riddles, it's very suspicious how he still hadn't got verified at era despite initiating the verification process weeks ago.
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He's not even vetted on Era.
 
Tenka Musou said:
When was the last time that dude got verified? Wasn't it under a different administration, too? I think he should be verified again.

Out of all the "insiders" that guy is the only one that raises all the red flags for me, he sounds very manuplitave with all his winks and riddles, it's very suspicious how he still hadn't got verified at era despite initiating the verification process weeks ago.
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Think of it this way:

Osiris has told us that PS5 > Series X (by a little bit) and has given us two detailed trailer descriptions. He also talked about an amazing launch by MS for Series X and studio acquisitions.

He's given a lot of stuff which if they turn out bogus, no one - NO ONE - will give him the time of day ever again.

This isn't a case where he can say 'oopsie, my bad' and no one will mind. People here will mind. Big time. So it's safe to say that his reputation is on the line, and he's going to be ridiculed forever if he's wrong.

Which is why I 95% believe him.
 
The more I think about the IP and the Konami / Capcom mention OsirisBlack OsirisBlack did out of the blue, the more I think about Castlevania.

Didn't Osiris a few weeks ago post a YouTube video of an OST of Castlevania IV?

Yeah, it's Castlevania.

Holy fucking lurking screaming screeching sheepshit … it's Castlevania.

Fuck me. MS … if you've bought exclusive rights to the Castlevania IP … I'll never stick to 'just my PlayStation' ever again.

Ever.

Sony AND Microsoft for life.
 
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CurryPanda said:
He's not even vetted on Era.
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Good for him, I wouldn't trust those fanatic doxxing extremists with personal information.

This is the second time in this thread that you brought Ree as if it's some kind of bastion of proof (the first time about the self requested Klee ban as if that proves anything), when you know full well that place is a fucking romper room.
 
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ethomaz said:
Or maybe he just don't say what you want to hear?
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I want to hear the truth, idgaf about the whole console war shit. I'm tired of all the winking and nudging.
Nickolaidas said:
Think of it this way:

Osiris has told us that PS5 > Series X (by a little bit) and has given us two detailed trailer descriptions. He also talked about an amazing launch by MS for Series X and studio acquisitions.

He's given a lot of stuff which if they turn out bogus, no one - NO ONE - will give him the time of day ever again.

This isn't a case where he can say 'oopsie, my bad' and no one will mind. People here will mind. Big time. So it's safe to say that his reputation is on the line, and he's going to be ridiculed forever if he's wrong.

Which is why I 95% believe him.
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PS5 > XBseX was reported by numerous insiders and journalists before him
Amazing Xbox launch line up cannot be proven wrong because it's subjective
As for the trailer descriptions we have no idea if and when these trailers will be shown, he would never be held accountable until the end of the generation , where he could claim it got cancelled or something.
Speaking of the trailers, doesn't it strike you as suspicious that he noticed all these tiny details? No one notices these things unless they actually have the video on hand and play it back repeatedly.
And all that stuff about protecting his sources yet he is describing the trailer scene by scene, yet the identity of the game he cannot say, do you actually believe that? What's his next excuse? "I don't want to ruin the surprise for the fans"?
 
Let's get to the nitty gritty here then - can someone point me to something Osiris has said that turned out true?

If no-one can, what the fucking hell Gaf. He's lead you all down the garden path.
 
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