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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
OK, what did you mean by this?!?!?!?!?!
PLEASE we all want this torment to end!
It means Mod of War is using focus mode.
Mendou
Banned
CyberPanda
Banned
To be expected. It's end of the the generation. And Nintendo is killing it!
kretos
Banned
Psyrgery ES
Member
it was a tweet from Benji about sony earnings.
Mriverz
Member
Imagine if sony or ms gives the go for for remote play with the switch. One could dream lol
30yearsofhurt
Member
Sony earnings call in english
Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
Kusarigama
Member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No PS5 news on the Sony earnings call. <br><br>Maybe an investor will ask about it during the Q&A.</p>— Daniel Ahmad (
Z
ZhugeEX
) <a href="">February 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
30yearsofhurt
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First party titles sold slightly below expectations.
chemical boy
Member
Very interesting, talk about a maximum of 13.8 TFLOPS for PS5, this is the maximum data that can be expected. He also comments that for PS6 to show the games at 8k, a minimum of 29.44 TFLOPS is required. This is the best article to date, thanks.
chemical boy
Member
Yep. It's probably 10.25tf.
False. According to the Japanese article that PS5 has just published, it has a minimum of 50 CU.
Agnostic2020
Member
Where did you see that ?
30yearsofhurt
Member
Pricing for next gen will be to maintain profitability over the life of the product.
CyberPanda
Banned
Sony needs to announce something already. People are getting blue balls.
DJ12
Member
Is this from the Sony Q&A?
If so, sold at a loss, overall profit due to services and games.
chemical boy
Member
There are 5 pages, on pages 4 and 5, it is a very complete article, the best one to date that gives us a real idea of what to expect.
I would copy it to you but I have translated it into Spanish.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
13.8
I want to get off now... You boys and your reading into things. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Sony do come out and say something utterly insane. Remember when they said the PS3 was 2tf
Edit: you know this article isn't official right? It says right there on page one "the only official specs we have are..." The rest are tales from their arse. It's a speculation piece, and it talks about theoretical limits and numbers. Nothing in that whole thing is legit conformation, other than the bare few lines at the start.
Guys come on, use a LITTLE common sense.
13.8
I want to get off now... You boys and your reading into things. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Sony do come out and say something utterly insane. Remember when they said the PS3 was 2tf
Edit: you know this article isn't official right? It says right there on page one "the only official specs we have are..." The rest are tales from their arse. It's a speculation piece, and it talks about theoretical limits and numbers. Nothing in that whole thing is legit conformation, other than the bare few lines at the start.
Guys come on, use a LITTLE common sense.
13.8
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Agnostic2020
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Apparently this is a speculation article ?? No ? It's not based on actual information. Is it ?
chemical boy
Member
13.8
I want to get off now... You boys and your reading into things. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Sony do come out and say something utterly insane. Remember when they said the PS3 was 2tf
Edit: you know this article isn't official right? It says right there on page one "the only official specs we have are..." The rest are tales from their arse. It's a speculation piece, and it talks about theoretical limits and numbers. Nothing in that whole thing is legit conformation, other than the bare few lines at the start.
Guys come on, use a LITTLE common sense.
13.8
It is the maximum we can expect, the minimum says it is 7.36TFLOPS
Agnostic2020
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The article say it's between 7.8 to 13.8 tf13.8
I want to get off now... You boys and your reading into things. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Sony do come out and say something utterly insane. Remember when they said the PS3 was 2tf
Edit: you know this article isn't official right? It says right there on page one "the only official specs we have are..." The rest are tales from their arse. It's a speculation piece, and it talks about theoretical limits and numbers. Nothing in that whole thing is legit conformation, other than the bare few lines at the start.
Guys come on, use a LITTLE common sense.
13.8
like no shit Sherlock
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
This weeks euro lottery is 32 million, and if I enter that's the most I can win. It doesn't mean I will.
Please don't look at the clouds and see Elvis, it's bad for your health
30yearsofhurt
Member
Yes. A translation of the answers to investors questions.
Yeah not made clear if it meant profitable at all times or sold at a loss at launch and at a profit later in the life cycle.
chemical boy
Member
13.8
I want to get off now... You boys and your reading into things. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Sony do come out and say something utterly insane. Remember when they said the PS3 was 2tf
Edit: you know this article isn't official right? It says right there on page one "the only official specs we have are..." The rest are tales from their arse. It's a speculation piece, and it talks about theoretical limits and numbers. Nothing in that whole thing is legit conformation, other than the bare few lines at the start.
Guys come on, use a LITTLE common sense.
13.8
It does not matter that it is not official, it is based on real data to calculate the theoretical maximums and minimums that we can expect.
chemical boy
Member
This weeks euro lottery is 32 million, and if I enter that's the most I can win. It doesn't mean I will.
Please don't look at the clouds and see Elvis, it's bad for your health
You forget something very important, you are talking about a PS5 of 36CU when it informs that the minimum we can expect is 50CU
Agnostic2020
Member
But that's their speculation and not based on actual info. We need to wait for more concrete info
TBiddy
Member
It's guesswork and speculation. Don't get carried away by that.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Based on real data, but that data is insignificant and incomplete. It would be like me saying "I'm going to have sex with this hot blonde that kept looking at me when I was at the shop", and my actual solid data consists of "she looked in my general direction. Once."
If you're going off data like this, that just leaves most people back to the 9 vs 12 talk. And that's just stupid at this point, because nobody knows.
The data we have is so incomplete, you can't accurately make any sort of viable, decent guess. Plus the data we have is from several different places and is several different things.
Don't do this to yourself man, or worse don't do it to others. There are a lot of members of Gaf, and the internet at large, who will put 2 and 2 together and get 5. They will read this as gospel, when in fact... it's just as much a guess as anybody else in this thread.
If you want hard facts? Wait for Sony and MS. But even THEN assume some of what they will say will be spin and not real.
B_Boss
Member
See, thats the issue when it comes to these waiting times for nextgen. Everyone says so much stuff that isn't officially confirmed. it very much so matters. Theory is theory, as is speculation.
He's seriously mistaken if he thinks real (or officially confirmed) data doesn't matter. That's how these "console wars" and nextgen waiting game speculation gets out of hand lol, always has because of primarily theory and speculation being repeated and, oftentimes, believed.
CyberPanda
Banned
bitbydeath
Member
13.8
I want to get off now... You boys and your reading into things. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Sony do come out and say something utterly insane. Remember when they said the PS3 was 2tf
Edit: you know this article isn't official right? It says right there on page one "the only official specs we have are..." The rest are tales from their arse. It's a speculation piece, and it talks about theoretical limits and numbers. Nothing in that whole thing is legit conformation, other than the bare few lines at the start.
Guys come on, use a LITTLE common sense.
13.8
13.8 is what developer
BGs
wrote and he also liked
chemical boy
post that highlighted that number. 
Rightisright
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I'm pretty sure Tommy is OK to poke fun at, I mean with him refusing verification and all.
Dargor
Member
Hey guys, stop speculating on a speculation thread, people might believe it, what?
People can and should speculate whatever they want, as long as they are being respectful. Other people believing anything that comes out of it is on them.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Don't do this to yourself man... Think logically.
bitbydeath
Member
He didn't refuse, he requested to be verified and submitted the info he had.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
I didn't say "don't speculate" you tit
but he did say this was actual hard info on the specs of the ps5. Thats not speculation, that's just flat out wrong 
bitbydeath
Member
Dargor
Member
I didn't say "don't speculate" you tit
Is it? where is your hard data saying he is wrong? Oh you dont have it cuz everyone is speculating.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
If comparable to the past then they are already late.
DrDamn
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*Hearsay* is normally inadmissible because the "accused shall enjoy the right ... to be confronted with the witnesses against him" (sixth amendment). There are quite a few exceptions to this rule depending on the court / country etc. I think rumours about toys in an online forum speculation thread might just make the exception list.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
If something is speculation, we treat it as such. For example nobody has said digital foundry has hard facts about the SX performance, they have made educated guesses. That's absolutely fine, and the bread and butter of this thread, but still, people dog piled on them.
This article, wherever the heck it's from, is doing the same thing - speculating. It's talking about theoretical limits on the silicone that are possible, it doesn't mean likely or will happen.
So when you pop your head up and say:
" You forget something very important, you are talking about a PS5 of 36CU when it informs that the minimum we can expect is 50CU"
You are not presenting this as speciation, but as fact. He's saying the minimum to expect is 50cus, when in reality the minimum we can expect is 0, because we have no real idea of anything.
This is equal to saying the next Xbox will be most powerful because of the size of the console, but not seeing the spec sheet. It's ok to make those guesses, but treat them such - guesses.
And I'm all for open discussion about guesses and speciation, I've done a fair whack of it myself.
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
also need i remind everybody but there are certain... people... on the internet that are a little bit too obsessed with twitter, and will take anything said here, no matter how small, and make it "news" without even thinking of what they are saying is true or not.
BGs
can tell you all about the fun they have had with people twisting their words.
I think there is enough misinformation out there, and yeah this is on Sony/MS really, but you understand why they are keeping their cards close to their chest.
BGs
can tell you all about the fun they have had with people twisting their words.I think there is enough misinformation out there, and yeah this is on Sony/MS really, but you understand why they are keeping their cards close to their chest.
Well 1-3 months difference won't make a difference for them ...
Late by forum dwellers
Dargor
Member
Dude, dont move the goalpost, we are talking about you trying to silence people. Just let people post what they want, how they want. Report them if you think they are going too far and let the moderation team decide who can post about what and how.
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