You should know better... HUDs are removed from such trailers, but you do have in game scenes being shown on Horizon... c'mon now
I absolutely agree. E3 2015 hands-on live demo was most definitely improved upon in terms of temporal Aliasing that can be found both in the Cinematic and in-game portion, just look at shimmering/aliasing at the edges of some alpha textures, textures with transparency and you won't find those in the final game. Also lighting is improved, the live demo had some fog from blocking seeing into the distance because they haven't finalized their occlusion tech just yet, final game has much improved draw distance thanks to it. Don't believe me? Just watch then.
Was not CGI accordly to Epic and none makes a CGI in that resolution for this new gen.
He's not the only person in here who has experience in the industry. As a former artist, more specifically a 3D artist, i can tell you that Horizon FW looks downright amazing. No one gives a shit about what tech or workflow goes into the graphics. As long as that shit looks good for the final product then so be it. This guy isnt an artist, he claims to be a graphics programmer. Ok, but when he said Assassins Creed animations are top of the industry above Naughty Dog, i fucking rolled my eyes and immediately knew this dude was spewing crap. I've worked with many artists, tech artists, programmers, etc. We all don't know everything. I've known amazing artists who could sculpt like a motherfucker but don't know their way around goddam substance painter or any software. And then there's programmers who are medicore in art but are great at what they do.
No they are not in the same goddam fidelity, wtf is this shit? There's clearly new shaders at work in HFW. You dont know whats going on inside those shader networks. You just dont wanna see it. GTFO.
Yeah but it's a digital gamescom, won't have the same traction probably. + their own events have been getting a lot of views, so why wait for an event when you can arrange it all yourself?
It's been confirmed to be in-engine, real time DoF artifacts and all, though it's almost certainly not an in-game cutscene but rather a target render.
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Several weeks old can still mean months though. I don't see any reason why Microsoft would lie about this to then be corrected by 343i. It's just using different words to say the same thing.So the Halo Infinite demo was a weeks old build, not months.
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Also the game is coming to Steam and will have a split screen co-op campaign for 2 players on the same console or up to 4 players online.
In-engine but not realtime, that's what I meant (I shouldn't have written CGI as it's ambiguous in gaming forums). Such level graphics isn't out of the question. They are skilled devs and you can see it in Senua's Sacrifice which looks really nice for an indie game. Yet, I'll remain sceptical about Microsoft Studios games after what I saw from 343i and Bloober, until proven otherwise.
Yeah, I think they are saying weeks because it was a 8-9 week old build (about 2 months), that's more believable than a 4-5 month old build that was said before. At least that's how it sounds to me.
I think a good first step to help your opinion be taken more seriously and not mocked (if you give a crap) would be to admit that Halo Infinite looks like an X360 game at 4K. The DEMO. The game itself may look better, but the demo looked plain, outdated and barebones.
Geometry engine is sony's tech, there is no reason for Sony's 1st party studios not to use it. UE5 Engine's nanite is also similar to GE.
Go back to you work on VFX smoke and mirrors with Fail Spencer
So, how did you conclude that these games can be done on current gen?
VFXVeteran spent the last 7 pages to try and convince everybody that all of the followings are simultaneously true in regards to Horizon Forbidden West:
Bonus round: he is still LARPing as an insider and claims to be best buddies with a producer at Epic games who was in charge of the Hellblade 2 trailer (which despite being produced by Microsoft and developed by a studio owned by Microsoft apparently needed Epic not only to be involved, but in charge of it?), and that he knows for a fact that that trailer was not pre-rendered but actually running real time... on something, it's not clear. But that definitely proves that games look better in cinematics than during gameplay, and that unless you play on PC you won't see true next-gen graphics because HE FUCKING SAYS SO, HE'S THE EXPERT SO STOP ARGUING GODDAMIT!
- The game does nothing that could not be done on PS4
- If you ported the game to PS4 you would need to cut off stuff in order to make it run
- Everythong we saw so far of HFW is not gameplay, and therefore it cannot be used to judge how the game will really look
- HFW looks just as good as HZD on PC because there is advanced dynamic foliage in both
- If the game looks very good to you, it's only because you like the art style, not because it actually looks very good (what we saw of it, mind you, not the real, probably downgraded gameplay). Trust him, not your eyes, he's the expert
I've had my fair share of this self-aggrandising clown, he's only here to stroke his own ego with an avalanche of nonsequitors, goalpost shifting and appeals to authority, and he's going on ignore.
I agree. With the level of graphic realism this game has...just seems like it would VERY stressful....at least to me!
He's not the only person in here who has experience in the industry. As a former artist, more specifically a 3D artist, i can tell you that Horizon FW looks downright amazing. No one gives a shit about what tech or workflow goes into the graphics. As long as that shit looks good for the final product then so be it. This guy isnt an artist, he claims to be a graphics programmer. Ok, but when he said Assassins Creed animations are top of the industry above Naughty Dog, i fucking rolled my eyes and immediately knew this dude was spewing crap. I've worked with many artists, tech artists, programmers, etc. We all don't know everything. I've known amazing artists who could sculpt like a motherfucker but don't know their way around goddam substance painter or any software. And then there's programmers who are medicore in art but are great at what they do.
If that shit looks good then it looks good. You don't need a fucking so called 'expert' telling you.
Honest question: If HZD1 looks that awesome on the Pro (which you admitted), isn't reasonable to assume the HFW trailer we saw can look like that on the PS5 in gameplay?
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I would love it if they did, especially if KZ2 multiplayer. Also give me a Resistance trilogy remaster or BC with enhancements
haha what, now i have seen everything. What's next?
PC catalogue isn't as vast, it won't have all the 360 games (yet). But yeah for all exclusives going forward it's worth thinking about.
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