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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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Dreams-Visions
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which game is dis brehs
BBQ_of_DOOM
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Get that last gen nonsense out of here!!!!
TheAdmiester
Member
At least you made sure it's GT this time.
That's Forza
Haha.
Burn.
thelastword
Banned
What's going on in this thread since I left?.... Aye Aye!
My word, those last few pages...?... and some guy is even arguing tire-walls. Does he realize that GTS has more polygons on it's tire walls, compared to the octagonal looking ones in F7......And if you want to talk about track impact, pp effects and debris...Why don't you try to get some shots of gravel and dust blasting up to extreme detail when your tires hit the edge of the track in GTS.....How about sparks et al....Shots of Forza's tirewalls have already been debated here and it does'nt have the polygonal budget that we see in GT..
Also, I'm pretty sure 3d spectators, 60fps reflections and mirrors are extremely more expensive than the 30fps reflections in F7, on top of the 2d cutout crowds and cheap 2d trees in F7, the missing headlights in tunnels or when it's getting dark, no high or low beam transitions, basic looking textures and materials in the name of 4k textures, no cockpit crew and such details needs to be rendered either......where are the proper spot light reflections and off car reflections in tunnels, weaker HDR, how about sparks and other pp effects you don't see in shots. Better lighting and better looking cars, the framerate is 60fps not only in gameplay, but on mirrors and reflections and you can do 60fps replays if you have a PRO as well......
Yet, here we have people comparing GTS to PC at 4k Ultra settings on 1080Ti PC's and you can still see the sacrifices made in that game to make it run so well on all platforms....No doubt, it can run 8k on PC easily too.......Too bad GTS does not have a PC version to run all settings at max and push AA to Oblivion or supersample to your hearts content.....Nonetheless, the cars, trackside detail, pp effects, lighting, HDR are still superior there and people seems to like what they've played too, so that's a bonus too.....
Btw, if any body believes weather is not coming, with all the hooks since beta...I think they're fooling themselves....
No, the two posts below are embarassing.....
.... When a french guy is simply asking that Shandy identify the platform from which his shots originate.......Anybody who does not have an axe to grind could have seen what he meant.......I'm sure you're of the opinion you're some type of neutral party in this don't you ;( SMH...
Those superior trees and trackside detail......GTS wish it had those surely.......F7 Nürburgring
My word, those last few pages...?... and some guy is even arguing tire-walls. Does he realize that GTS has more polygons on it's tire walls, compared to the octagonal looking ones in F7......And if you want to talk about track impact, pp effects and debris...Why don't you try to get some shots of gravel and dust blasting up to extreme detail when your tires hit the edge of the track in GTS.....How about sparks et al....Shots of Forza's tirewalls have already been debated here and it does'nt have the polygonal budget that we see in GT..
Also, I'm pretty sure 3d spectators, 60fps reflections and mirrors are extremely more expensive than the 30fps reflections in F7, on top of the 2d cutout crowds and cheap 2d trees in F7, the missing headlights in tunnels or when it's getting dark, no high or low beam transitions, basic looking textures and materials in the name of 4k textures, no cockpit crew and such details needs to be rendered either......where are the proper spot light reflections and off car reflections in tunnels, weaker HDR, how about sparks and other pp effects you don't see in shots. Better lighting and better looking cars, the framerate is 60fps not only in gameplay, but on mirrors and reflections and you can do 60fps replays if you have a PRO as well......
Yet, here we have people comparing GTS to PC at 4k Ultra settings on 1080Ti PC's and you can still see the sacrifices made in that game to make it run so well on all platforms....No doubt, it can run 8k on PC easily too.......Too bad GTS does not have a PC version to run all settings at max and push AA to Oblivion or supersample to your hearts content.....Nonetheless, the cars, trackside detail, pp effects, lighting, HDR are still superior there and people seems to like what they've played too, so that's a bonus too.....
Btw, if any body believes weather is not coming, with all the hooks since beta...I think they're fooling themselves....
dr guildo
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Lol
TheAdmiester
Member
Oh look, it's another thelastword post. Looks like we have all the usual suspects here at once
thelastword
Banned
BTW, anybody who mentions trackside detail in the future should be answered with this post above..Landscape :
Tarmac texture :
Skybox :
Water reflections :
3D spectators :
Bonux :
More to come...
Superior foliage, better draw distance, "you actually believe you're just driving in one small part of a location heading somewhere way out into the horizon".....better textures, better details in the distance, better looking spectators with lots of movement in some parts.....Gravel, Sand, Dust, Grass all shoot up realistically including some nice lighting quirks and pp effects whilst you drive..It's all in the pudding... Can't wait to see snow and rain tbh....GT5/6 were already great with these.....
And to think, we have not even had the chance to take shots and vids of most of the tracks....some even better than what we see here.....
forza 7
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
GTS.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
I really love FM7 skyboxes.
haven't made screenshots because of hdr.
Looks great.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
GT Sport on PSVR.
potatohead
Member
Damn is that Forza, that's might impressive.
Very impressive wouldn't have guessed that tbh.
Might get it on PC just wish there wasn't a Windows store only version.... 1080 ti should be coming early next week ^^
Fess
Member
Well, apparently a generation of difference is so hard to guess, it confuses even the best of us.
TheAdmiester
Member
Yeah, the confusion is just proof that the entire "generation ahead" argument is a load of shit.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
Thanks
No worries, I could understand the confusion given it's hard to make VR truly sing when you're running off of Forza 2's car modeling.
potatohead
Member
I would like to see it in other lighting conditions though.
Dim lighting is the easiest to get a good overall appearance and makes textures/shaders look most realistic in general.
We all can't tell until the original poster tells us.
BBQ_of_DOOM
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Psycho_Mantis
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And people act like PD aren't in a league of their own. GTS pretty much killed the debate here.
BBQ_of_DOOM
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I remember doing this in GT4. Unimpressive, IMO.
D'ultimate
Member
By now everyone should be able to tell the difference between the two because of the hands if nothing else. At least from the cockpit.
MilkyJoe
Member
I really love FM7 skyboxes.
haven't made screenshots because of hdr.
Jinkies
Again? I think I heard that before from you, yet we still discuss. Hmm...
Vicetrailia
Banned
PD did do a fantastic job on the car materials, they lead there.
ThisGuy
Member
Thats PlayStation vr? I have a 1060 and project cars looks like ass on my vive.
Fess
Member
Bah, why are people trolling?
Looked awesome anyhow, so much better than the standard cockpit view which is far too static imo.
TheAdmiester
Member
How many more times can we expect you to say "debate over" or "thread's done"?
Just asking for a friend.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
The general rule of thumb for this thread:
- If something from Forza looks better, talk about the GTS being "last gen" and "lacking dynamic _____."
- If something from GTS looks better, pretend it doesn't exist and wait for #1.
We're simply in stage 2. Give it a half an hour, someone will start talking about trees again.
sir_dany12
Member
Is that PCars 2 on Vive?
/s
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Discuss what? I've seen the last few pages and its hardly about best graphics but tiny nitpicks for each game or Forza fans just trying to compensate by mentioning factos that go beyond this thread. There's really very little debate actually going on.
Thats a pretty one sided view. It goes both ways.
potatohead
Member
Interesting I thought the lighting looked a bit off
Looking closer the trees do look very flat and so does the lighting. I like the windshield reflections though.
To be fair I was looking at it on my phone at work during an ER night shift. So I was maybe a little bit busy
TheAdmiester
Member
The fact that people have been legitimately confused as to which game is which suggests there isn't as vast of a gulf as you'd like to think.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
For some, sure. But we're well beyond that.
UpUpDownDown
Member
I said it once I'll say it again.
Nurburgring in VR all goddamn day!
Can't wait to finally experience it's famous elevation changes properly.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Bro, thats people poking fun since some guy last page thought a Forza gif was GTS lol
I'm not developer, but is it so hard to bake lighting+textures? It's free in terms of performance, looks good, but absolutely static. SO no wonder why the most of devs try to make realtime lighting. Because it is challenge and it's hard to make realistic. Baking interiors(like UE4 demoes) is not chalenge. Am i right?
Fess
Member
It's really annoying, I wish people could be serious for once, this is the best year for racing fans in quite some time and people can't deal with it and starts to fight like little kids.
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