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Nexus 7 2013 |OT| No SD card edition
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DonMigs85
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A few hours or so.
Preventing a lithium battery from discharging isn't good in the long run.
Do you think that battery manufacturers haven't thought that people may leave their things on charge for more than a few hours or something?
AngmarsKing701
Member
I keep my S3 plugged in well after it's hit 100%. Is there some sort of time limit to doing that?
Andrea23
Member
Hi guys.
Has anyone encountered this graphical bug on landscape mode (it does not occur in portait mode), during the switch from the boot screen to the lockscreen ?
Video (not mine):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEN8mbc3R4M
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Has anyone encountered this graphical bug on landscape mode (it does not occur in portait mode), during the switch from the boot screen to the lockscreen ?
Video (not mine):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEN8mbc3R4M
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I’ve been using my nexus 7 for just under a week now (16GB). I figured I’d collect my thoughts on this lazy Sunday morning. I’ve mostly used iOS devices since 2007 and have just sold a one year old ipad mini (potentially waiting for a retina mini). Main reason I got an N7 was that, since getting the mini, my ipad use had consisted almost entirely of reading twitter, Gaf and RSS feeds...
General impression is that the N7 a very good tablet for reading twitter, Gaf and RSS feeds. The screen is gorgeous, the unit is light and solid and it’s pretty responsive.
So, regarding screen size compared to the ipad mini, I find the 7” widescreen display is just fine for reading single column text. pages render great and are very easy to read.
But if, for whatever reason, I want to “take in” the design of a complete page. stuff like nytimes or The Verge (or non mobile gaf), the narrow aspect ratio and smaller size makes it a little harder to read than using the ipad mini - even though the mini has a lower screen res. But once I double tap to zoom into an article, it’s A-OK.
Apps:
I found some good apps for twitter and feedly on the Play store. I needed tweet marker support for the twitter app and a simple, clean UI for the feedly syncing (not a huge fan of the feedly app on any platform).
I think Plume for twitter and Press for RSS/feedly are excellent. Maybe missing that very last bit of polish found in the best iOS apps but certainly good enough for most (good enough for me, FWIW) and, of course, they can offer some functionality not found in iOS versions like seamless background updating (which only just got added in iOS 7 but not all apps use it)
Some other apps were less impressive. I don’t know why the imdb app is formatted the way it is but the top half of the screen is fixed and the space for new content is mostly limited to the bottom, scrollable half. it makes the app feel cramped.
The Flipboard app looks like the ipad version on the homepage but actual articles are more constrained and render as single column text whereas the ipad version feels more magazine-like with multiple columns and images mixed together.
And the tumblr app is really slow and bad. this one puzzles me. gifs do not load at all unless you tap them and then they run way slower than just loading tumblr in Chrome. Not sure what’s going on here as the iOS situation is different - the tumblr app is faster than loading tumblr in safari.
The nexus 7 has issues with gifs in general. animating them eats battery and heats up the top third of the device to hotter-than-ipad3-levels. and they run waaaay slower than on the ipad mini.
Also, they don’t animate at all in mobile gaf but I wonder if that’s a mobile gaf thing and not a Chrome/Android thing. This may seem small but it could be a deal breaker. I need my gaf gifs!
I have not found the kinds of unique apps that I like on the iPad. Stuff similar to The Elements, Korg iElectribe, Brian Cox Wonders of the Universe. But the flip side is that there are SNES emulators and apps to modify OS level stuff like Do Not disturb functions (glad I found this one). so that’s a bit of give and take. Depends what your priorities are
I did find a very good comics reader very easily. Sidebooks supports dropbox, renders files super fast. lots of touch options. very, very nice. And it’s free!
Other Android 4.3 thoughts:
I really like the notification shade in Android. easy to clear all items, access to the music controls, some items are directly actionable. And it doesn’t take up the entire screen like NC on iOS 7 on the iPad. The control center shade on the right side of the screen is also useful.
I would prefer if the UI for the entire OS was not black but I am glad that Google’s UI for their apps are mostly greyish and white. very clean.
I still have limited use for widgets. I put an accuweather forecast widget up there. But no need for RSS or email widgets. seeing limited info of those items is not that important to me as I can’t really action anything unless I get into the app. I think the library widget to get shortcuts to media you’ve bought on the play store is pretty handy.
Scrolling, panning performance across the system is a mixed bag. It is still not as smooth as the one year old ipad mini (which uses a 2 year old CPU). Scrolling in Chrome is close to the ipad and generally good enough. I know the acceleration curves are way different between OSes but I can get used to either after a minute. But pinch to zoom performance in Chrome is awful. Don’t know why but it’s animating at under 30fps. definitely not smooth. double tap to zoom is fast and good. but pinch to zoom is not.
I’ll continue to use the Nexus 7 for the next couple weeks at least. The gif animating issue is a surprisingly big one for me as I do browse tumblr everyday and lots of gaf threads are more fun when the gifs actually, y’know, animate. But I can shift some of that time browsing those sites to the laptop.
I’d say if the ONLY ipad Apple sold was $500 for the 10” model, the $230 for the Nexus 7 would be a no-brainer for more people. But with a mini coming in at $330, it becomes a tougher decision and you need to balance what your requirements really are and what’s more important to you. The ipad mini is better at some things (apps designed for larger screen, more games, better performance with some multituch gestures) but the N7 is more portable, customizable, has a sharper screen, and is cheaper. I hope the screen res difference becomes moot after the new mini is announced this month. If it doesn’t then it remains a big, easily noticeable advantage of the N7 for another year.
score: 83 slices of individually wrapped american cheese out of 100.
edit: after a reboot, gifs now animate in gaf. I don’t know if this is something that will reoccur.
General impression is that the N7 a very good tablet for reading twitter, Gaf and RSS feeds. The screen is gorgeous, the unit is light and solid and it’s pretty responsive.
So, regarding screen size compared to the ipad mini, I find the 7” widescreen display is just fine for reading single column text. pages render great and are very easy to read.
But if, for whatever reason, I want to “take in” the design of a complete page. stuff like nytimes or The Verge (or non mobile gaf), the narrow aspect ratio and smaller size makes it a little harder to read than using the ipad mini - even though the mini has a lower screen res. But once I double tap to zoom into an article, it’s A-OK.
Apps:
I found some good apps for twitter and feedly on the Play store. I needed tweet marker support for the twitter app and a simple, clean UI for the feedly syncing (not a huge fan of the feedly app on any platform).
I think Plume for twitter and Press for RSS/feedly are excellent. Maybe missing that very last bit of polish found in the best iOS apps but certainly good enough for most (good enough for me, FWIW) and, of course, they can offer some functionality not found in iOS versions like seamless background updating (which only just got added in iOS 7 but not all apps use it)
Some other apps were less impressive. I don’t know why the imdb app is formatted the way it is but the top half of the screen is fixed and the space for new content is mostly limited to the bottom, scrollable half. it makes the app feel cramped.
The Flipboard app looks like the ipad version on the homepage but actual articles are more constrained and render as single column text whereas the ipad version feels more magazine-like with multiple columns and images mixed together.
And the tumblr app is really slow and bad. this one puzzles me. gifs do not load at all unless you tap them and then they run way slower than just loading tumblr in Chrome. Not sure what’s going on here as the iOS situation is different - the tumblr app is faster than loading tumblr in safari.
The nexus 7 has issues with gifs in general. animating them eats battery and heats up the top third of the device to hotter-than-ipad3-levels. and they run waaaay slower than on the ipad mini.
Also, they don’t animate at all in mobile gaf but I wonder if that’s a mobile gaf thing and not a Chrome/Android thing. This may seem small but it could be a deal breaker. I need my gaf gifs!
I have not found the kinds of unique apps that I like on the iPad. Stuff similar to The Elements, Korg iElectribe, Brian Cox Wonders of the Universe. But the flip side is that there are SNES emulators and apps to modify OS level stuff like Do Not disturb functions (glad I found this one). so that’s a bit of give and take. Depends what your priorities are
I did find a very good comics reader very easily. Sidebooks supports dropbox, renders files super fast. lots of touch options. very, very nice. And it’s free!
Other Android 4.3 thoughts:
I really like the notification shade in Android. easy to clear all items, access to the music controls, some items are directly actionable. And it doesn’t take up the entire screen like NC on iOS 7 on the iPad. The control center shade on the right side of the screen is also useful.
I would prefer if the UI for the entire OS was not black but I am glad that Google’s UI for their apps are mostly greyish and white. very clean.
I still have limited use for widgets. I put an accuweather forecast widget up there. But no need for RSS or email widgets. seeing limited info of those items is not that important to me as I can’t really action anything unless I get into the app. I think the library widget to get shortcuts to media you’ve bought on the play store is pretty handy.
Scrolling, panning performance across the system is a mixed bag. It is still not as smooth as the one year old ipad mini (which uses a 2 year old CPU). Scrolling in Chrome is close to the ipad and generally good enough. I know the acceleration curves are way different between OSes but I can get used to either after a minute. But pinch to zoom performance in Chrome is awful. Don’t know why but it’s animating at under 30fps. definitely not smooth. double tap to zoom is fast and good. but pinch to zoom is not.
I’ll continue to use the Nexus 7 for the next couple weeks at least. The gif animating issue is a surprisingly big one for me as I do browse tumblr everyday and lots of gaf threads are more fun when the gifs actually, y’know, animate. But I can shift some of that time browsing those sites to the laptop.
I’d say if the ONLY ipad Apple sold was $500 for the 10” model, the $230 for the Nexus 7 would be a no-brainer for more people. But with a mini coming in at $330, it becomes a tougher decision and you need to balance what your requirements really are and what’s more important to you. The ipad mini is better at some things (apps designed for larger screen, more games, better performance with some multituch gestures) but the N7 is more portable, customizable, has a sharper screen, and is cheaper. I hope the screen res difference becomes moot after the new mini is announced this month. If it doesn’t then it remains a big, easily noticeable advantage of the N7 for another year.
score: 83 slices of individually wrapped american cheese out of 100.
edit: after a reboot, gifs now animate in gaf. I don’t know if this is something that will reoccur.
Im glad you posted this! I rebooted the N7 after reading your post and now gifs in mobile gaf animate as expected. Hopefully that bug doesnt come up again but if it does, its just a quick reboot to fix.
rohlfinator
Member
Mine does that sometimes. It always goes away within a second or two though, so I never really worried about it.
Nicktendo86
Member
Click image for photo album said:
Setting this device up has been a joy. Didn't even skip a beat downloading a bunch of apps at the same time as messing with the settings and other stuff. The screen is absolutely gorgeous, and it's definitely noticeable how much of an improvement it is over the old one, especially when put side to side.
Will be taking more time for some hands on before I place final judgement, but initial impression: very good.
nice button design. man, wish i could do the same with my nexus lol. do u guys use nova?
I use Apex, but pretty much anything you can do in Apex you can in Nova.
Guys I need your help, I am torn between buying this or a ps3. To clarify I never owned any consoles of the current gen only used PC. Now my PC is outdated and I am in a completely different country for uni. I have a macbook that I strictly use for uni (ok, you got me, a couple of indies too.) I would buy both to game and watch movies. So what do you think I should do?
It's very smart to buy the 2nd gen model cause it's a hell of a machine. Definitely the current reference device in the android area.
I'd go with a PS3 if you already have a Macbook and can watch movies and stuff on that.
The 2nd gen is my first tablet and will stay as my only one for a pretty long time I think, I was waiting for something future proof to pop up and this is it.
ThatObviousUser
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It's like $85 less, so it depends on how used it is. If you literally can't tell, yes, that's a great price.
yeah, a member was selling it in the BST thread
friskykillface
Banned
hmmmmmmm im very late but what screen protectors are you guys using? Unless some of you guys go naked nexus 
I don't like those screen protectors with the "oli residue" when applied, i need to see dat screen clearly
I don't like those screen protectors with the "oli residue" when applied, i need to see dat screen clearly
DonMigs85
Member
hmmmmmmm im very late but what screen protectors are you guys using? Unless some of you guys go naked nexus
I don't like those screen protectors with the "oli residue" when applied, i need to see dat screen clearly
Just be careful with rocks, sand and jewelry since they're the only common materials that can scratch the display.
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Deleted member 325805
Unconfirmed Member
hmmmmmmm im very late but what screen protectors are you guys using? Unless some of you guys go naked nexus
I don't like those screen protectors with the "oli residue" when applied, i need to see dat screen clearly
ElecShield Ultra Clear, it works fine. I decided to go for ultra clear because it doesn't affect the picture unlike the anti smudge/matte ones.
hmmmmmmm im very late but what screen protectors are you guys using? Unless some of you guys go naked nexus
I don't like those screen protectors with the "oli residue" when applied, i need to see dat screen clearly
No screen protector, Just a case.
Modern smartphones do not need screen protectors.
21st century cowboy
Member
What has been the general consensus as to the best cheap case and cover for the new 7?
Thanks
Thanks
Got this Moko case and it has been excellent. The price has hiked quite bit though since its introduction. Still a good value at $15.
Recommend this one as well.
Good, solid feel to it and the on/off function when you close/open the cover works really well.
ThatObviousUser
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Best wireless charging pad?
rohlfinator
Member
I'd look for one with a big surface like the Energizer pad. The cheap one I got for my phone is too small to hold the Nexus 7 very well.
I use the Nokia one since I bought it when it was on sale at AT&T. It's kind of small but it works
ThatObviousUser
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Was thinking of getting this one.
I heard the N4 charger can be good too, but you have to put it in landscape (which is fine since I like the dock mode.)
Does wireless charging auto-trigger the dock mode?
I heard the N4 charger can be good too, but you have to put it in landscape (which is fine since I like the dock mode.)
Does wireless charging auto-trigger the dock mode?
Jzero
Member
It charges slow as shit compared to the usb cable though.
which is necessary for what exactly?
The current Nexus 7 is very smooth and a multitasking beast
Seriously, it feels like it's scoffing at everything I throw at it. Doesn't even break a sweat.
ThatObviousUser
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Indeed.
Best tablet of all time.
Best tablet of all time.
Devices less powerful than it can also run android damn near flawlessly as well.
At this point its just wanting spec bumps for the sake of having spec bumps.
DonMigs85
Member
Exactly. So I'm sticking with it until 64-bit processors and 4GB RAM become the norm.
DonMigs85
Member
This is what shortsighted people thought back when the Pentium III hit 1GHz and you could have 512MB RAM.
The march of progress is exciting! Besides this tablet can't even run many high-end games at 60FPS. The Adreno 330 in Snapdragon 800 is a significant jump already.
I should have edited my post to say "barring any significant changes in android development". I am referring to how android is right now, and with google's (correct) decision to focus on OS optimization. As for games that is indeed a neverending climb in technology, and that wasn't quite what I meant when I was referring to how well the tablet runs the OS.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Biggest upgrade would be the switch to the big little chip set design to help on battery.
DonMigs85
Member
Qualcomm's chips don't need to quite as much, unlike the power-hungry Cortex A15.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I love my Nexus 7.
But I just dropped it and shattered the screen on one edge, and the digitizer is also funky.
Early research suggests that these are way expensive to fix. Anyone have any first-hand experience?
But I just dropped it and shattered the screen on one edge, and the digitizer is also funky.
Early research suggests that these are way expensive to fix. Anyone have any first-hand experience?
AngmarsKing701
Member
I am now torn between this, a Surface Pro 2 or just keeping the S3/iPad/laptop setup that I have.
Jzero
Member
If i had the money i would definitely buy the Surface 2. I'm broke though so i bought the Nexus 7.
DonMigs85
Member
Yeah so much more functional although lacking when it comes to the usual iOS and Android apps.
The Faceless Master
Member
Surface Pro 2
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