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NFL 2011 Week 9 |OT| Release the Tebow!
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what is this, i dont even. Texans fans are so inconsistent, 9-7 season they couldn't run for shit and everyone is yelling that they shouldn't be running it so much and were so happy when he finally gave up on it at about the second half of the Cardinals game and for the rest of the season.Miguel said:
fucking ignorance.
To elaborate... Chris Brown was awful. Slaton was (as we now know) injured, but regardless, had caught a case of fumblitis by then, and the running game was awful. Yes, I was one of those calling for the running plays to be limited... because you know what? It made sense with the cast of RBs we had at that time. Both were playing awfully, and abandoning the run was the right move at the time. Until Foster started hitting holes in the last 2 games of the season.
Seriously, if you can find any video of those games, watch us try to run against anyone... the holes were there, Slaton and Brown just weren't hitting them. There was no reason to force the run game at that time.
As far as abandoning the run, there were times last year where Foster was rolling, and for whatever reason (usually we were down, although not by a crazy amount usually), Foster didn't touch the ball anywhere nearly as much as he should have towards the end of the season in the 2nd halves of games.
The number of Foster/Tate carries this year in the 2nd half is a part of the reason our defense is performing better. We may not be getting the points at the moment, but we're eating up more clock this way. Wade + free agency/draft plays the biggest part, but controlling the ball has it's part in the difference between last year and this year.
Seriously, if you can find any video of those games, watch us try to run against anyone... the holes were there, Slaton and Brown just weren't hitting them. There was no reason to force the run game at that time.
As far as abandoning the run, there were times last year where Foster was rolling, and for whatever reason (usually we were down, although not by a crazy amount usually), Foster didn't touch the ball anywhere nearly as much as he should have towards the end of the season in the 2nd halves of games.
The number of Foster/Tate carries this year in the 2nd half is a part of the reason our defense is performing better. We may not be getting the points at the moment, but we're eating up more clock this way. Wade + free agency/draft plays the biggest part, but controlling the ball has it's part in the difference between last year and this year.
Trasher said:
Hmmm...I don't know if I've ever seen defense quantified that way?
I will say to me personally that PPG is a better stat to gauge defensive performance. You can give up 900 yards but if the other team doesn't score then so what.
Cam Newton is throwing the ball all over but it doesn't equate to wins.
I think it is more impressive that the Lions are giving up only 18.4 PPG which ranks 6th in the league.
Then you look that they are scoring 29.9 PPG which is 4th in the league.
That is a recipe for success
Oh and would you look at that! The 49ers are #1 in PPG allowed with 15.3 a game.
Then they rank #6 in offense with 26.7 PPG that is a recipe for success as well.
Buckethead
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Didn't Snoop-A-Loop say he was a Steelers fans for the Super Bowl?
FrenchMovieTheme
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Trasher said:
any stat can be skewed but if you are top 10 in scoring offense and top 10 in scoring defense the odds are you are winning some games.
unless you are the 2010 chargers....
Ninja Scooter
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
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meljeff said:
Indeed. Niners are playing lights-out this year with Alex Smith as their QB. Never would have thought it'd take him, what, 6-7 years to find his footing, but he did.
NihonTiger90
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The more I read about Peyton Manning, the more I think he's done. 35 with an injury that's not really making any progress healing is not a good sign at all.
FrenchMovieTheme
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why is it that whenever someone discredits the niners they say "well look at the division they play in!". we're 6-1 and we've played 1 game against an NFC west opponent. how does our 6-1 record have anything to do with the NFC west? if you want to say we've had a weak schedule (we haven't) then whatever but it has nothing to do with our division
i wish i got paid good money to be a stupid fucking talking head analyst who has no idea wtf he's talking about.
i wish i got paid good money to be a stupid fucking talking head analyst who has no idea wtf he's talking about.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Trasher said:
god i hope you guys destroy the packers on thanksgiving
Devolution
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
Yeah I don't get this either. The niners have played some strong teams in other divisions. If anything that means the Niners are a really strong team, that they're not just the least shitty in the division.
FrenchMovieTheme said:
The fact that we have 3 wins against east coast teams on the east coast is an indication of just how tough this team is (and how tough our schedule's been). Its complete BS we have to play a 4th, especially so soon. Although I do like waking up to the 49ers playing the early game, even if it does hurt their chances
Futurevoid
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Forbes ranks the best and worst owners in the NFL according to revenue growth, team records in the past five years and more (revenue being key).
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2011/11/02/the-best-and-worst-nfl-owners/
1. New York Giants/John Mara and Steve Tisch: Since they took over control of the New York Giants in 2006 from their fathers, John Mara and Steve Tisch have presided over 33 percent growth in the value of their team best in the NFL. The 2010 opening of MetLife Stadium helped them rack up a 21 percent bump in revenue last year, the latest achievement for an ownership duo that also lifted the Lombardi Trophy in 2007 for the organizations third Super Bowl victory.
Based on their teams performance on the field and financial growth off of it, the Mara and Tisch families are the best owners in the NFL, by Forbes estimation. To come up with our list, we looked at teams change in franchise value and win percentages (including a bump for playoff and Super Bowl victories) over the last five years. Each factor accounts for half of their rank.
Rounding out the top 5:
2. New England Patriots/Robert Kraft: New Englands gate receipts were second-highest in the NFL in 2010 at $93 million, and by Forbes appraisal, the teams value has increased 17% over the past five years.
3. Indianapolis Colts/Jim Irsay: The team pays just $250,000 a year in rent on the three-year-old Lucas Oil Stadium, while the city of Indianapolis covers all operating and maintenance expenses. The deal allows Irsay to keep one of the lowest debt percentages in the league.
4. Green Bay Packers/100k Shareholders: The franchise is based in by far the smallest NFL city, but still has one of the highest brand management values in the league at $85 million. The teams value has risen 17% over the past five years.
5. Cowboys/Jerry Jones: Despite no recent postseason success, the Cowboys opened a $1.3 billion new stadium in 2010 the most expensive ever. The iconic blue star represents the most valuable team in American sports, a title the Cowboys hold over the New York Yankees.
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So who's the worst owner in the NFL by Forbes estimation?
Detroit Lions/William Clay Ford Sr: Known for both losing seasons and losing money. Not only did the Lions post the first 0-16 season in NFL history in 2008, the value of the franchise dropped 3 percent over the last five years. Detroit was also the only team in the NFL to lose money in 2010.
Runner-Up:
Oakland Raiders/Al Davis: His Oakland Raiders have won only 30 percent of their games over the last five seasons, and posted the lowest revenues in the league in 2010.
Other folks in the worst category:
Buffalo Bills/Ralph Wilson Jr.
Cleveland Browns/Randy Lerner
Cincinnati Bengals/Mike Brown
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2011/11/02/the-best-and-worst-nfl-owners/
1. New York Giants/John Mara and Steve Tisch: Since they took over control of the New York Giants in 2006 from their fathers, John Mara and Steve Tisch have presided over 33 percent growth in the value of their team best in the NFL. The 2010 opening of MetLife Stadium helped them rack up a 21 percent bump in revenue last year, the latest achievement for an ownership duo that also lifted the Lombardi Trophy in 2007 for the organizations third Super Bowl victory.
Based on their teams performance on the field and financial growth off of it, the Mara and Tisch families are the best owners in the NFL, by Forbes estimation. To come up with our list, we looked at teams change in franchise value and win percentages (including a bump for playoff and Super Bowl victories) over the last five years. Each factor accounts for half of their rank.
Rounding out the top 5:
2. New England Patriots/Robert Kraft: New Englands gate receipts were second-highest in the NFL in 2010 at $93 million, and by Forbes appraisal, the teams value has increased 17% over the past five years.
3. Indianapolis Colts/Jim Irsay: The team pays just $250,000 a year in rent on the three-year-old Lucas Oil Stadium, while the city of Indianapolis covers all operating and maintenance expenses. The deal allows Irsay to keep one of the lowest debt percentages in the league.
4. Green Bay Packers/100k Shareholders: The franchise is based in by far the smallest NFL city, but still has one of the highest brand management values in the league at $85 million. The teams value has risen 17% over the past five years.
5. Cowboys/Jerry Jones: Despite no recent postseason success, the Cowboys opened a $1.3 billion new stadium in 2010 the most expensive ever. The iconic blue star represents the most valuable team in American sports, a title the Cowboys hold over the New York Yankees.
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So who's the worst owner in the NFL by Forbes estimation?
Detroit Lions/William Clay Ford Sr: Known for both losing seasons and losing money. Not only did the Lions post the first 0-16 season in NFL history in 2008, the value of the franchise dropped 3 percent over the last five years. Detroit was also the only team in the NFL to lose money in 2010.
Runner-Up:
Oakland Raiders/Al Davis: His Oakland Raiders have won only 30 percent of their games over the last five seasons, and posted the lowest revenues in the league in 2010.
Other folks in the worst category:
Buffalo Bills/Ralph Wilson Jr.
Cleveland Browns/Randy Lerner
Cincinnati Bengals/Mike Brown
FrenchMovieTheme said:
Man it is just water off a ducks back. The 49ers can shut the talking heads up by continuing to win football games. I think in this case it isn't the 49ers playing teams in their division but the fact that the 49ers already have a 4 game lead in their division.
I mean hell Green Bay is 7-0 and are only 2 games up. So I think people are saying there isn't any way they shouldn't win the NFC West unless they completely self destruct.
Drakeon said:The fact that we have 3 wins against east coast teams on the east coast is an indication of just how tough this team is (and how tough our schedule's been). Its complete BS we have to play a 4th, especially so soon. Although I do like waking up to the 49ers playing the early game, even if it does hurt their chances
6 of our 8 away games are 1:00 pm est starting times, that is some pretty blatant trolling by the NFL. Especially during the CBA negotiations they were saying that teams traveling EAST to WEST were at a disadvantage.
Don't pay attention to the "analysts" they are all the same. They just look at scores and highlights and base their opinion off of that. Ole TDizzle (Dilfer) is the only analyst on ESPN who knows anything and whose opinion I respect.
I wish you guys got to play the Pack this year. Looking at the rest of their schedule...jeeze. They could go undefeated. Although I really like our chances against them. Both at home and on the road since our away record is so damn good. Hell, we might have a better chance of beating them in Lambeau rather than at home with the way things are going lol.meljeff said:
Look at their remaining schedule:
@ Chargers
VS Vikings
VS Bucs
@ Lions
@ Giants
VS Raiders
@ Chiefs
VS Bears
VS Lions
Up until the last couple of weeks, I was hoping that the Chargers would be able to give them a run for their money this coming week. Not so much now...
Btw, I wish I could get a Megatron Decepticon avatar like your Gore one. Shit looks too cool. Did you say someone else made that, or did you do it?
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This...is pretty much every Browns fan right now. Ya gotta wait a few minutes in till he really gets going (and gets hilarious) but wow, I was almost in tears laughing at most of this
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=70&c=476&f=259931
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=70&c=476&f=259931
Black Mamba
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
Niners have the weirdest schedule I've seen in a long time. 2nd in division game comes week 11. So weird.
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SlackAdjuster said:
Gotta get that playmaker baby
Corran Horn
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I like itBlack Mamba said:
lol this is timely:Drakeon said:The fact that we have 3 wins against east coast teams on the east coast is an indication of just how tough this team is (and how tough our schedule's been). Its complete BS we have to play a 4th, especially so soon. Although I do like waking up to the 49ers playing the early game, even if it does hurt their chances
Trasher said:
Well let us not forget Harbaugh smartly kept the team in Ohio between the Bengals and Eagles games. So the reality is that the 49ers only have made 2 trips to the East coast.
1. Cincinnati / Philadelphia
2. Detroit
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Coming up...
3 Washington
4.Baltimore
So we will see.
XiaNaphryz
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They're likely stuck in the tunnel.Noriega said:
SlackAdjuster said:
I am so Excited!
Wow this guy was so close to dropping F-Bombs this is quality entertainment right here.
I thought San Diego sports radio was bad WOW!
Meanwhile the Ravens (Former Browns) are playing for first place on Sunday night.
It has got to hurt doubly bad.
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