The Artful Dodger
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Lol, I'm sooo happy we don't judge franchises one decade at a time. That's why the Raiders are the best. Right guys?
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NFL 2013 Week 12 |OT| - Where the winners win and the Jets lose.
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Lol, I'm sooo happy we don't judge franchises one decade at a time. That's why the Raiders are the best. Right guys?
...Guys?
Dutch Gronk
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Dutch Gronk
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When Patriots fans talk about the Super Bowls we are living in the past. When we talk about Bill's tenure as a headcoach we're not talking about the past enough.
DeaconKnowledge
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......What?
It relies implicitly that one would determine that BB/Brady came around in 2000. For it to say "Patriots" to me implies the franchise. So really it makes it look like all that other history is irrelevant if you take it at face value of "Patriots" as an org, and using your own words, buries the head in the sand of any history prior.
Guess it's just semantics, so congratulations on the good decade. I still think franchises are ultimately judged on sustained success over a cherry picked decade. Just my opinion.
The Artful Dodger
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*sigh* Russell is a totally different situation than just unemployed guys. Also just let him fade away...I don't that constant reminder
Dutch Gronk
Banned
I'm eagerly awaiting Sanjuro. He needs to get up in here to preach about the true G.O.A.T Drew Bledsoe.
Quit being melodramatic. You defend Tabris, no one but a homer would do that. Tabris is like a worse version of Lunchbox, at least Lunchbox gets banned! I leveled with you, and apologized to you when you were upset, and you ignored it. You don't deserve anything but derision and a mop for all your salty tears.
Edit: The Broncos and Patriots have around the same number of wins and losses, being smug about the Broncos over the Patriots is just bizarre.
Broncos history didn't start in 97'. Judge for yourself.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Bowlen-Hits-300-Win-Milestone/0304fb60-c43f-4233-b040-2d7d325a8e43
Oh neat, just the sort of thing I was curious about the other day.
It's true. Look at all the terrible stuff that has happened to the Pats since they Alex Smith'd Bledsoe. Spygate, The Helmet Catch, losing to Elite Flacco at home. Bledsoe/Brady was the precursor to Tinyhands/Kaep!
Dutch Gronk
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Eat shit, Deacon
DeaconKnowledge
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Love you too Dutch Boy.
I thought tragicomedy was destined to be the new dirtbag. Now I fear I was wrong.
Alligatorjandro
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The Pats did go to a super bowl in the 80s and 90s and were a playoff team in the late 90s.
MetalFearSolid
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What is the Broncos injury report Godslay? How bad is it? DRC? Moreno? Vickerson?
Dutchbag?
Haven't heard about DRC or Vickerson. Moreno left in a boot and on crutches, DRC shoulder, Vickerson Hip.
Jamie Collins for the Pats had a damn good game with the limited amount of snaps he got. I hope he can become a cover linebacker in the future. Pats are taking their time with Collins, and I hope he delivers. Would give the Pats speed they desperately need at linebacker. Something I heard on the radio/postgame is how terrible Hightower has been. The fact that Hightower was benched should be cause for alarm. Pats crushed it with Jones, but Hightower is a player from the wrong era of football. 10-20 years ago he could be a good player, but he is way to slow to play linebacker in the NFL right now. Can't get them all, but at least they made a move up in the draft. I hope this doesn't discourage the Pats from doing it again in the future.
Pats fans are too realistic to ever reach such heights again.
Dutch Gronk
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Maybe Hightower eeds to lose some weight. He has no business weighing 270. I think he has the talent to be a successful 3 down LB.
Hey! Win or lose I've always been here since 2010 (?)
I'll save you the trouble of speculating.
I think Hightower's going to be fine. He was doing really well under Mayo's wing early this season, but he wasn't ready for the added responsibility of being the green dot player since Gregory went down. When Gregory comes back and takes over the defense again, Hightower will have less going on in his mind and his play should get better.
Dirtbag didn't disappear until they won the Super Bowl and he decided to fight everyone in the thread. Really weird guy. Total opposite of the current members of Saints-gaf.
I'm hoping he improves but that speed is always going to be an issue. Even if he loses weight, and has less responsibilities I'm not sure he has the speed to play. At least they got Jones in that draft. To me it was a great draft just because of him. The man is a freak.
Alligatorjandro
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One player I love is Logan Ryan. I think he'll be good.
ActStriker
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It could be them trying to groom a Brandon Spikes replacement/backup but even then you'd want to keep Spikes around because of how good he is against the run
Dutch Gronk
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I will only fight Tabris. Shirtless.
And Deacon, but with love.
And maybe Yankee when he goes on one of his rants.
Besides Canjun, who's left of Saints GAF? Big Baybee?
Runziel (sp?) and, um, is Truly101 still alive?
Dutch Gronk
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What are the odds of them being able to re-sign Spikes after this season? With Collins, Fletcher and Dont'a they have a lot of good LBs who can play all downs and Nink just got his big deal.
Add to that that they need to re-sign Ridley, Vereen, Edelman, Solder(?) and McCourty and there might not be a whole lot of money left.
Good point. To be honest I would prefer Spikes to Hightower. At least he brings the boom every play, and will force fumbles. Still early for Hightower though. Still plenty of time to improve.
Yea love the way he plays. Is physical and actually turns around for the ball. The Pats corners this year all seem to be close on every play. If they don't make the stop most of the time they are right there for the tackle. Coverage by them as a whole has been good. McCourty has been a stud at safety. Pats defense is starting to take shape with the young guys. If they could somehow get another guy like Jones they would be great. You could move Ninkovich around and start playing all kinds of games on the line. Especially if Wilfork returned as the player he once was.
Slim unless he takes a team friendly deal. I love Spikes. Would be like letting Woodhead go. Good player to have in the right situation, but you have depth there. The difference is that they had Vereen who I think is going to be much better than Woodhead.
Edit: Holy shit Dutch we both forgot someone Talib. Yea no way the Pats sign Spikes in the off season.
Squall ASF
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Oh yeah, I'm licking my chops already and I know the players are too. One of them made a comment recently how much that loss hurts right now with the standings and I know they are hungry to get revenge. Need to focus on Philly first which is the tougher matchup and if we pull it off, I am extremely confident taking out STL and TN. Problem is I'm not so sure 10 wins gets it done anymore. If CAR and SF keep winning along with us, we'll have to take down SEA or SF with SF being the far easier scenario.
How funny would it be if big the ravens and 49ers miss the playoffs and finish 3rd in their division?
When's the last time both teams from the Super Bowl missed the playoffs completely the next year?
When's the last time both teams from the Super Bowl missed the playoffs completely the next year?
we're getting in for sure, idk bout worst harbaugh tho. Those cardinals look scary
Hightower is pretty good at everything minus pass coverage but great at none. He's just flat out too slow to cover anyone which will likely get exposed by TE's eventually. I also never see big plays which has been my biggest knock on Mayo.
I see Solder, Vereen, and McCourty being resigned. McCourty is the most likely to sign a team-friendly deal. I think they'll let Ridley walk, let Edelman test the market again, and let Spikes walk. Talib will probably test the market too, but I think they'll end up paying him well.
Coldnoodle
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Talib will be a Bengal.
FrenchMovieTheme
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not looking forward to playing in arizona if the playoffs are on the line for both teams. cards always give us tough games there :/
The Artful Dodger
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Oakland has a ton of money coming in next year but I hope they don't do something stupid with it. I'd rather lock in top performers this season, and maybe one or two mid-price range FA, and just keep rebuilding through the draft.
Sorry for the way things went, but your playoffs dreams are over. You're one of us now, loser bro
Dutch Gronk
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Seeing Woody play yesterday still made me miss the guy. He was so cool and is a great player. But would be a waste to have Vereen (or Woody) sit on the bench so unfortunately it was probably right to let him go.
I'm afraid Talib might be out. With Logan Ryan, Dennard and Arrington they might not want to pay him as much as he wants to be paid. I hope they did a way, maybe the injuries lower his value a but.
He was actually pretty good in coverage at the start of the season. But maybe that was before teams started to take advantage of him.
Alligatorjandro
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I dont think many teams will go after Talib. Injury prone and issues off the field? I think the Pats sign him.
Letting Talib go would be the worst thing the defense could do. They are a different team with him playing. He's a risky guy to sign, but I hope they pay him. Although, I am preparing myself for when they eventually let him go
FrenchMovieTheme
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...awks-walter-thurmond-faces-4game-ban-for-peds
wtf how did i miss this? i'm sure its already been discussed but another seachicken suspended for PEDs
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wtf how did i miss this? i'm sure its already been discussed but another seachicken suspended for PEDs
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Remeber that game with him and Todd Collins?
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