DeaconKnowledge
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We're about to see the normalization back to having a strong running game again. Gotta protect those 100 million QBs.
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NFL 2013 Week 3 |OT| - We're Up All Night To Get Gronky
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We're about to see the normalization back to having a strong running game again. Gotta protect those 100 million QBs.
I think teams still have to commit. Pass D is so difficult so everyone wants to pass all game and put up the big #s but if you want to protect your QB, limit turnovers, and control the clock you have to run the ball.
It doesn't matter if you only get a yard or two. Coaches don't seem to have the patience anymore to do so. Reid was ahead of the curve.
Bullshit, the morning show trashed kubiak and schaub all morning. Seth payne just came on, practically yelling in the microphone about the dumb 4th and 2 screen pass, not throwing beyond the sticks on 3rd down, the TAINT, punt return TD, Meltser just said if this keeps up there's going to be a new QB soon. Just because they are the official radio station for the Texans mean they're homers.
They're not stuck with anyone. The way they structured Schaubs contract, they can release him after this year and its not too bad in the salary cap hit. They can release kubiak anytime, just up to Mr McNair to pay whatever amount is left on the contract and a new coach.
As for your top question, I think its both, but i don't know that Kubiak is anymore aggressive with anyone else at QB. This offense is very odd. They look pretty damn good when they actually open it up, second half of the chargers game, 4th quarter and overtime of titans game, first quarter yesterday till they got to the redzone. But then they go all running game, i dont understand why they dont just say fuck it and throw the ball around like they do when their down.
But no one wants to talk about the piss poor o-line play either, even with duane brown out. Schaub cannot get away from pressure, this is nothing new, especially pressure up the middle, so the oline letting people through like that is never going to work out for a qb like schaub.
Coldnoodle
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Kent Somers ✔ @kentsomers
S rashad Johnson lost top of right middle finger Sunday. Took glove off and finger was still in
8:05 AM - 23 Sep 2013
YO DAMN
I don't see how you get value, so it's better just to keep him. He is so talented. Transforms that offense. Unless they want to lose. Then I guess they take whatever is offered. How will Browns fans feel if they get like a conditional 5th round pick?
You'll need it When RG0-III is hobbling around and being Palmer 2.0
It's true to an extent. When your talent ages, specifically with the Giants and Steelers, you don't have an avenue left to replenish your team except for the draft. But you still need the qb, so you're screwed. It's best to take advantage while you can. Two Lombardis sure eases the pain. But let's be honest, how much of a window should you expect? I'd say that both of our teams have had almost a decade of prosperity. A few down years isn't that much of a price to pay.
The defense will start forcing turnovers when they get to play with a lead. The unfortunate truth is that there's a gameplan in place to beat the Steelers. Load the box against the offense, stop the run and rush 5 or more against the pass. Dink and dunk against the defense until they get tired, or William Gay gives up a big play. Teams don't need to get chunk yardage against the Steelers because they aren't playing from behind. That eliminates the pass rush, which is where Pittsburgh has always generated big plays.
what world do you people live in? No one is going to get disappeared for talking shit about the Texans.
Regarding Kaep, you're seeing the effects of a "sophomore slump," or what happens to a young QB once opposing defenses have enough tape to construct a viable game plan. It happens to most QBs outside of the select few who are truly special.
They are stuck with them because McNair isn't going to do shit about the situation. This is the guy who held onto David Carr bruh. The dude is the most loyal in the NFL to a fault. So while they can make the moves you said I guarantee it they will not. Even of this team misses the playoffs. The o line play is terrible that's true. Well then don't you think you'd like to have a qb who can mitigate some of that by being able to move? If you can't throw the ball more than a 10 yards you have to be able to do something as a qb. New age in the nfl and texans at qb are way behind. And so is this offense.
I also hate how they receive the ball every game. It always happens where we get screwed at the end of the half by a FG or TD. Oh guess what they get the ball coming out of the half with a chance for 3 or 7 more points. Everyone about that team over there is backwards.
Future PhaZe
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Griff never had anything as significant as Carson.
And Griff looks better each week. If he keeps progressing at this rate he should be back to himself around years end.
On one hand, I think he needs to go. On the other, I want him held accountable and not for him to just say "fuck this, I'm going to UT".
Where's this rumor coming from?
Troy has been decent in getting in the backfield but he has rarely been near the ball in coverage.
I remember a few times where he was in the picture, but it hasn't been very often.
He has been decent on the blitz and occasionally guesses right on screens and runs. But even on obvious run plays he is guessing wrong as much as he is guessing right. He can blow somehow up in the backfield when they have zero momentum, but Troy and no one else on our team seems to be able to get into position and tackle someone with any momentum.
No one has caught on yet, but you should always run it on us in 3rd and short. Even if we close up the hole I feel like a strong back is just going to push our guys back 2 yards.
God we suck.
It wouldn't make sense for the Browns to trade Gordon for less than a 4th, if even that. He doesn't have an expensive contract and he's far better than any receiver they're likely to find in the 4th or later. Their best bet is to keep riding him and sell high to a receiver-desperate playoff team right before the deadline, or you know, they could always keep him and let Teddy Bridgewater turn him into an All Pro receiver.
yeah no way some hick radio station in the south has the inside scoop in UT athletics. Texas can and will do much better than Schiano.
Plasticine
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No, he hasn't. In the past he's said he'd be willing to take less than market value to remain with the Bears. Of course, that's probably just talk.
I'm 90% sure Rorschach is the guy in the suit itself.
Might as well keep him. I understand one more strike and he's gone for a year but really having him here won't affect us grabbing another top flight WR in the draft anyways.
Why trade him and hope to get a #1 WR when we potentially have one in him already?
Its the same way I feel about the speculation that we'd trade Joe Thomas. We'd need to be getting back a ransom to even consider moving him.
Texans O-line is crap this year. Schaub and Kubiak are always crap so that's expected. If our line is going to be crap we need a more mobile QB, and there's 2 of them sitting behind Schaub right now.
This offense is frustrating to watch. In the comebacks against San Diego and Tennessee, when the offense opened up, I felt confident they could get the first down on 3rd and long. In this game it felt like the same old Texans. 3rd and long means a draw or short pass to the tight end short of the sticks.
This offense is frustrating to watch. In the comebacks against San Diego and Tennessee, when the offense opened up, I felt confident they could get the first down on 3rd and long. In this game it felt like the same old Texans. 3rd and long means a draw or short pass to the tight end short of the sticks.
The Browns won't be in the Bridgewater sweepstakes if Gordon sticks around. They have a good defense and can win 3 games. That's why I think a trade would be telling. You can argue that Richardson wasn't really any good and that they are not much worse with him gone. But Gordon undoubtedly makes them better. If they trade him they cannot claim they aren't tanking
I <3 Windows.
Actually, I'm just too invested in Windows to make the jump to another OS. If I simply used computers to browse the internet and look at Youtube videos, I'd be willing to transition to another OS, but my usage is a shit ton deeper than that :/
The Frankman
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I hope Al Davis rises from his grave to put a stop to that monstrosity.
Stop trolling tom
RurouniZel
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I just can't even imagine the feeling of dread to suddenly discover a part of my finger had been torn off.
cuevas. PhD.
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The Bears have gotten away with 3 wins this season. Fuck them I'm not getting my hopes up.
I thought Griff looked good yesterday barring that silly throw on the interception and the fumble. He still needs to learn how to slide, hopefully feet first next time. That said, he showed enough mobility to extend plays, and that inside run he had (where he fumbled) was the first time I've seen him with any noticeable speed this season. His passes had much better zip to them, and that long throw to Robinson (the drop) looked more like the Griffin from last year. Still a lot of work to do, but the early bye week should help.
The defense though, I have no idea how to fix that. Maybe having a safety who can tackle instead of that damned fool Merriweather would be a start. It is telling of our safety depth that whenever someone goes down we use a corner to replace them even though we have vets like Reed Doughty on the sideline (who can tackle at least).
The defense though, I have no idea how to fix that. Maybe having a safety who can tackle instead of that damned fool Merriweather would be a start. It is telling of our safety depth that whenever someone goes down we use a corner to replace them even though we have vets like Reed Doughty on the sideline (who can tackle at least).
that's the spirit!
WOW.
Grover Cleveland
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Dat VAUNTED Niners D
Future PhaZe
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If I had a DVR I'd make a gif sequence of the amount of times he whiffed with his head down trying to truck guys. It literally got comical when you'd see the dude come from off-screen charging in like a bull and hit nothing but air maybe 3, 4 times.
I'd personally like to go back to a 4-3 scheme and get rid of Haslett. His resume is trash and this defense was pretty good even during the shit years post Taylor (RIP) with the 4-3.
Then of course getting the full salary cap to work with we'll look like a completely different team next year imo.
It's absolutely a big part of it. With cheap rookie contracts you have the flexibility to go into free agency to plug holes as required, but when cap space is tight the team NEEDS to bring in rookie difference makers with each draft. Not only will these rookies be cap friendly, they will also be for longer contracts with the option of trading.
That's why our team's whiff on the 2013 Draft for the DT position is going to hurt. Sure, we got our RB of the future and a solid TE, but we won't have the ability to shore up our defensive line like we did once we start paying players like Sherman or Wilson. Now, Wilson might give us a huge discount as he's just that kind of guy, but other players probably won't. Fortunately, Carroll and Schneider are clearly aware of this and have already shown themselves willing to make hard decisions for the cap.
The comeback really was greater than the win. That D is shook.
Alligatorjandro
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Patriots broke the 9ers
That's what a Texans fan told me..
Idunno, did you hear Rick Smith and McNair both, essentially called Schaub out this offseason?
I think if they miss the playoffs Kubiak is gone, if they go to the playoffs again and win one and lose or go one and done and Schaub keeps playing like he's playing, he's done here. But we'll see how it goes. McNair is a good owner, yes he is loyal, but he's grown a lot since he first came into the league.
yes this drives me nuts, put your best unit on the field, the damn defense! Especially on the road, the fans are all hyped up and then have to be quiet for their offense and then they are buying shit and taking shits after half time when you get the ball.
Though, yesterday the Ravens won the toss and deferred.
http://www.sports790.com/media/podc...tlemen/monday-september-23rd-2013-2-23745332/
First 5 minutes are pretty much state of Houston fans right now with Texans and that Luck fear
First 5 minutes are pretty much state of Houston fans right now with Texans and that Luck fear
Futurevoid
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Yep. It is what it is. Frustrating to watch regardless.
I'd rather not change anything too dramatically with the defense. The same core group gave up plenty of yards last season, but generated turnovers and were decent in the redzone. They showed shades of that yesterday, allowing the Lions to go down the field but hold them in the redzone when it really mattered on a few occasions, I think redzone defense should be the priority to improve.
As for getting the full salary cap next year, it is my understanding that a lot of the vets who restructured this year for us to comply with the penalty will have their salary loaded into the next few years. We'll be dealing with the penalty for the next few years. I certainly don't see us going out and winning a bidding war for Byrd.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/88487/nfl-week-3-quarterback-report
Rams also lead the league in drops per both ESPN and PFF. So take that Giants
Futurevoid
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Shit news for the Bears:
Rafa=FedKilla
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Colin Kaepernick cannot theough a touch pass to save his life.
We'll see. I personally think Seattle is going to beat the hell outta the texans. Maybe not jags bad... But pretty bad. We can't go vertical against the first 3 teams we played.. The Texans might be shut out in this next game.
Also you are right. I am listening to 610 and payne is clearly annoyed with schaub lol
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