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NFL 2013 Wild Card |OT| The Return of Jafar
- Thread starter Buckethead
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He took Dalton to the playoffs three straight years. This is why you can't have nice things.
I'm not sure what kind of NFL staff Stoops can put together. He's not going to be doing any gameplanning or playcalling. A manager type coach. Not that he isn't involved, but he's very reliant on coordinators and assistants
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Pats should play 11 DBs at all times. Trent Richardson still would average less than 3 YPC.
yankeehater
Member
I agree that they need another peice on offense, I just want it to be a big physical WR. The kind of guy that even when double covered can go up and snatch the ball. The offense struggles at times in big games because the refs swallow the whistles and the Eagles WRs cant fight through all the hand checking. Lewis for the Saints was just grabbing DJax in a lot of the highlights, you need someone that can still be effective when that garbage happens.
Come out heavy, play action. Screens. Motion. Send fleener on skinny posts. A lot of options to get players open when you're sitting on them like that. You commit three people to two dudes, someone is going to be open, or the run game will be there.
Coldnoodle
Member
Yes please.
TheLegendary
Member
So yesterday never happened. Can't wait to play the 49ers this Sunday!
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I think the Colts beat NE if they turn the ball over less than two times.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
U mad?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
33 points total in those games. Never really impressing on the offensive end even during the season. I just don't get the hype over the guy. I really think the fact that his last name is Gruden has more to do with it.
yankeehater
Member
You dont think it is impressive that an Andy Dalton lead offense scored the 6th most points in the NFL? If Gruden had a great QB running his offense it would be fucking scary.
They averaged 27 points per game this year. I mean, as a Lions fan I can understand why regular season would be meaningless what with the perennial trips to the playoffs you guys get but sheesh, he averaged 27 ppg with Andy Dalton at QB.
At some point you need to pick one; Dalton sucks or Gruden sucks. They kinda can't suck together to the tune of 27 ppg.
Buckethead
Banned
Yesterday happened.
The Niners were the better team and if that game isn't played in the weather it was or the refs not giving a fuck, it would've likely been a different game.
Green Bay had things tilted in their favor and couldn't get it done. Losers lose. I hope the players and coaches own up to their fuckery. They blew it.
That being said, Kaep is a shit kicker of a QB. He's lucky our defense is slower than molasses. But in the NFL, your QB only matters to a certain extent. It's a team game.
That's why garbagemen like Flacco can win Super Bowls.
Rodgers on the other hand, can play lights out and then have his own fan base talk shit about him the next day. Unbelievable.
The Niners were the better team and if that game isn't played in the weather it was or the refs not giving a fuck, it would've likely been a different game.
Green Bay had things tilted in their favor and couldn't get it done. Losers lose. I hope the players and coaches own up to their fuckery. They blew it.
That being said, Kaep is a shit kicker of a QB. He's lucky our defense is slower than molasses. But in the NFL, your QB only matters to a certain extent. It's a team game.
That's why garbagemen like Flacco can win Super Bowls.
Rodgers on the other hand, can play lights out and then have his own fan base talk shit about him the next day. Unbelievable.
Man, this is going to be the longest week ever. After watching the 49ers last night, I feel pretty good about the Panthers chances. They are still a mediocre team offensively and if the Packers can find some running room against that defense, so will the Panthers. Kaep still looks like he's locking on to one receiver from the snap, and rarely throws to even a check down. I'll take Cam any day of the week in another low scoring defensive slug fest.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Maybe Dalton is better than people are giving him credit for?
DeSean Jackson wants a new deal. Great.
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/01/06/jackson-wants-new-deal/
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/01/06/jackson-wants-new-deal/
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I'm not exactly a Flacco fan but don't act like he didn't play a huge, huge part in that SB run last year.
Futurevoid
Member
4200 yards and 33TD's for Dalton and the Bengals have a top 10 offense in yardage. #6 in points per game for the regular season.
Not that I disagree with the playoff games being a poor representation but that's pretty impressive considering he's got a young QB in his third year playing who's played like dog shit in those three games.
EDIT: ...and eznark beat me to it.
Only Lombardi himself is fit to run the legendary Detroit Lions football club.
Those flags didn't draw themselves, that's for damn sure.
Those flags didn't draw themselves, that's for damn sure.
Sucks to suck. He has zero leverage. The only thing he can do is holdout, and even then the Eagles can just wait.
Pats are going to mix up zone and man, but when they play man that's what I think they should do. Every chance they get to slow down Ty at the line they are going to do it. The run game is going to be there regardless of what the Pats do defensively. They don't have the pieces up the middle to stop the run.
They will dare them to run and play tons of dime.
yankeehater
Member
His completion percentage went down from last year and his ints have gone up every year he is in the league. I dont like him even a little bit as a QB. He is so reckless with the ball, and he also misses so many open guys. He can look great at times but he never maintains it for long.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Exactly!
But even without all the PI calls Flacco had a 50+ yard TD pass in 3 of his 4 playoff games. Dude had the bomb dialed in.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
62.3 to 61.9 is significant?
He had a much better season this year than last.
I don't think Dalton is that great but I would rather have him than probably a dozen other starting QBs in the league. He had shit the bed hard in the playoffs but thats still better than bums who are never making the playoffs like Tannehill and Stafford.
I think that might be the plan but who knows. I could live with a loss to the Colts if Luck/running game beat them, but if TY goes off I'm going to be bitching about it all off season.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Whatever makes you feel better. Kap looked off the safety in the middle and came back to VD on the deep td pass. He was going through his progressions decently yesterday but he does need to use the check down more.
I feared the packers more than the panthers but we will have to see Sunday!
yankeehater
Member
I went back and edited the significant part out. I misread his completion percentage the first time. I thought it was 5% lower rather then 1%. I still think he just doesnt pass the eye test. I will give you that he is better then a lot of the slop at QB like Stafford, but I think the Bengals have SB talent and he ultimately holds them back. Being middle of the pack isnt much of a compliment.
Nameless
Member
In 3 games against you guys Kaep has 900 yards passing, 300 yards rushing and 8 total TDs.
What a fuckin scrub
Most teams don't ever reach a point of having such good talent that a QB so obviously limits them. Cincy has. I'm sort of baffled he has defenders. He makes plays b/c he isn't scared of turning the ball over. Against bad teams that works out. Even good teams he might get occasionally lucky.
But he'll never consistently perform well vs good teams, and he will give it up. This is as far as he can take that team. Mike Brown idk. Tough spot. They've done so well everywhere else but now they have to really make a big risky move to upgrade that position
But he'll never consistently perform well vs good teams, and he will give it up. This is as far as he can take that team. Mike Brown idk. Tough spot. They've done so well everywhere else but now they have to really make a big risky move to upgrade that position
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
It has nothing to do with kap tho. Any success he has had has nothing to do with him. He's just a lucky dude! Packers didn't lose they beat themselves. Niners didn't win that game etc
We didn't manage a first down till the 2nd quarter. Part Rodgers fault getting scared after the lines problems, part the lines problems.
It is what it is. We lost. Kap isn't like Rodgers in that he can run if space is made; he is capable of exploiting smaller space and taking advantage with his speed. Rodgers has some quick legs at times, but Kap is on another level there and he burned us when he needed to most.
Packers D did better than I'd of thought. The offense had big issues in the 1st and 3rd quarters.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Because I don't believe Dalton is as bad as you guys make him out to be.
I do agree that the new coach needs to have some experience working with mediocre QBs like Stafford. If he's the guy, fine.
Nameless
Member
Now that you mention it, he did have the wind at his back, pushing both him and the ball down the field.
lol no he didn't. Burnett should have picked that off if he wasn't slower than hell.
Being a good QB in general is all about decision making. A QB doesn't have to win every game but he should be counted to very rarely lose the game and keep the team in a position to win the game on the basis of not making donkey plays. Dalton flat out lost the game for the Bengals and really didn't give them much of a chance. He actually did the same thing the week before but the defense bailed him out over and over.
Version 3.0
Member
I'm late on this, but more playoff teams? Stupid idea. If you're going to let half the teams into the playoffs, then you don't need 16 games to find out which half.
QB play is the bottleneck for all teams. You go as your QB goes. Dalton blew the game yesterday but it was still winnable if a few more plays are made by others. He limits his boneheaded decisions, which is reasonable to accomplish, and he'll be better for it.
Futurevoid
Member
Well let me be clear, what I posted wasn't meant to be an indictment on Dalton. Statistically he looks pretty good on paper for his 2013 regular season and I wanted to put forth that the Bengals offensive numbers this year were highly impressive in general. However, you mentioned the 3 playoff performances as one of the knocks on Gruden which ignores the fairly significant role Dalton had to play in how those games turned out. Especially yesterdays game which was a total QB meltdown in the 3rd QTR which completely lost them the game. How you put that on Gruden, I don't know.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Lol we are going to play that game? If if if!
Assuming Burnett will do anything other than step on his own dick is idiotic.
Himynameischris
Member
That's why they will expand to 18 games, duh.