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NFL 2014 Week 13 |OT| California Gurls

Slo

Member
I don't know that anyone would give up a 3rd rounder for him at this point...he would be a project at this point...5th rounder would seem about right, even a 4th rounder seems too high at this point.

At this point, getting anything you could would be smart.
 

Respect

Member
They'd be lucky to get that I suppose. Greg Cosell said his mechanics footwork and understanding of the game are remedial and need a total revamp. Then again it would be like drafting a rookie in the 3rd round with talent.

Think there's a lot more than that though...he can't have much confidence, there is a stigma that he isn't a hard worker, he is spoiled, and his new teammates probably won't respect him. All of that in addition to the mechanical flaws and lack of game management/understanding. 3rd rounder just seems too high for all of that baggage.
 

Fox318

Member
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Who knew RG3's sponsor would also be the place he will be working next year?!
 

DMczaf

Member
Next summer on 30 for 30 Shorts:

"What If I Told You....the Redskins wished the only problem they had was the name of their franchise."

"RG3 and Out."
 
What does "talent" mean?

Sure RG3 has athletic talent but does he have talent as a QB? All signs point to no.

He has an accurate ball and has great arm strength.

Behind a decent line a lot of his issues would go away. That's probably enticing to some teams.

But yes, his ability to go through progressions and navigate a pocket needs a lot of work right now.
 
He has an accurate ball and has great arm strength.

Behind a decent line a lot of his issues would go away. That's probably enticing to some teams.

But yes, his ability to go through progressions and navigate a pocket needs a lot of work right now.

Arm strength is overrated. From what i've seen his accuracy is questionable.

I have no idea how arbitrary evaluations like arm strength are given more weight than the ability to read a defense.
 
PFT: Jets wouldn’t let Rex talk about Buddy’s health situation

Leave it to the Jets to be dysfunctional even in the process of disintegrating under the weight of dysfunction.

According to Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, the Jets blocked coach Rex Ryan from talking to Mehta about a bye-week visit to his ailing father, legendary NFL defensive guru Buddy Ryan. Buddy, who rose to prominence as defensive coordinator of the ’85 Bears and then coached the Eagles and Cardinals, is battling cancer.

“Ryan was happy to discuss the visit, but a media relations official intervened presumably because of the News’ critical stories about Idzik,” Mehta wrote. “Asked who made the decision to prevent a willing Ryan from sharing stories about his father, the media relations official said, ‘I don’t have to tell you.'”

Mehta interprets the muzzling of Rex Ryan as proof positive that, once the season ends, Ryan will no longer be the team’s head coach. Apparently, the team fears that Rex would become more sympathetic in the eyes of the fan base if he’s dumped by the team at a time when his father is fighting a serious illness.

That sounds more than a little goofy, but why else would the Jets not let Ryan talk about his father, especially when his father is a famous former NFL coach?

The disclosure comes as part of a broader column in which Mehta goes all in against G.M. John Idzik, arguing that Idzik should be fired, too. Although an unlikely upset of the Steelers seemed to go a long way toward saving Idzik, a 35-point Monday night blowout loss to the Bills may have pushed the needle the other way.

With Ryan surely done, the question becomes whether he’ll win enough games down the stretch to save Idzik. If it was Idzik who gave the order to keep Rex from talking about Buddy, Rex should mail in the last five.

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I don't know how much stock to put in it, but still
 
Arm strength is overrated. From what i've seen his accuracy is questionable.

I have no idea how arbitrary evaluations like arm strength are given more weight than the ability to read a defense.

There are many many issues with this offensive line that simply can't be understated. It makes it hard to evaluate how good he is at reading defense. He's obviously not great at it, maybe not even good, but beyond that its hard to know with such dysfunction.
 

BigAT

Member
Greg Cosell does film study on IRG3, the results aren't pretty.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...w--robert-griffin-iii-s-issues-214738329.html

"Griffin’s mechanics and footwork are very poor."

"What if your footwork on drops and sets is as bad as any quarterback in the NFL, as is the case with Griffin"

"If Griffin didn’t like either of the first two options on corner routes – and he should like either one of them – he still has three check-downs wide open. And he doesn’t process any of it.

He didn’t throw the ball on time. He really didn't throw it to anyone. What did he do? He left the pocket, moved into pressure and threw it away before taking a shot from a 300-pound lineman."
 

Slo

Member
Greg Cosell does film study on IRG3, the results aren't pretty.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...w--robert-griffin-iii-s-issues-214738329.html

"Griffin’s mechanics and footwork are very poor."

"What if your footwork on drops and sets is as bad as any quarterback in the NFL, as is the case with Griffin"

"If Griffin didn’t like either of the first two options on corner routes – and he should like either one of them – he still has three check-downs wide open. And he doesn’t process any of it.

He didn’t throw the ball on time. He really didn't throw it to anyone. What did he do? He left the pocket, moved into pressure and threw it away before taking a shot from a 300-pound lineman."

Racist.
 
Greg Cosell does film study on IRG3, the results aren't pretty.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...w--robert-griffin-iii-s-issues-214738329.html

"Griffin’s mechanics and footwork are very poor."

"What if your footwork on drops and sets is as bad as any quarterback in the NFL, as is the case with Griffin"

"If Griffin didn’t like either of the first two options on corner routes – and he should like either one of them – he still has three check-downs wide open. And he doesn’t process any of it.

He didn’t throw the ball on time. He really didn't throw it to anyone. What did he do? He left the pocket, moved into pressure and threw it away before taking a shot from a 300-pound lineman."

Wow. Cosell makes the same talent argument I just did.
 

Zeke

Member
Skins need to just stop drafting qb's for awhile. There really isn't any point in drafting them if all of them are going to die on the field
 

BigAT

Member
Bobby Griff is really the best thing that could have happened to the Redskins organization. He cost them all those draft picks (including what would become the #2 overall pick) and showed just enough in his rookie season to cause them to go back to him inexplicably at times when it was clear he had nothing to offer. In addition, he's going to cost two coaches their jobs.

It's pretty great.
 

Zeke

Member
Mark Sanchez to DC!!!
Butt fumble will sign an extension chip will pay him 100 million! Eagles team of the forever! Seriously tho the skins are so fucked they no choice but to play the long game and rebuild for a few years.
 

MechDX

Member
Turkeys are thawed. Inject them with this tomorrow morning:

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Rub their tender bodies with this:

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Stick them in a pot of hot oil at 350 for 40 minutes

and mmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmm
 
So it's okay if everybody else does it, but only you get caught?

So we can leave the Spygate discussion behind us then.

But NE does pick plays all the time as well, and is caught doing it

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/15/new-england-patriots-denver-broncos-afc-championship-game-pick-plays/

Here's another article about how the Bills did it against the Pats:

http://www.patspulpit.com/2014/10/1...s-affect-the-patriots-defenses-press-coverage

Even Revis has talked about how Patriots like to use picks or rub routes (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...evis-prepping-buccaneers-mates-for-patriots):

"I've been helping as much as I can, just trying to make sure everybody's on the same page," Revis told Breer. "It's really simple: Tom doesn't have the chemistry that he did with some of the veteran receivers. You can see that a little bit, the young guys are trying to get acclimated and get used his fire and the way he runs his offense. We see that confusion a little. I've been helping the guys, telling them how (the Patriots) run their routes, the rub routes, and a bunch of other things."

Another article on Patriots using the pick/rub route to their advantage:
http://blogs.thescore.com/nfl/2012/...aking-down-the-patriots-double-china-concept/

The Lions used rub routes against the Patriots to get Golden Tate open for a reception this past weekend (http://nesn.com/2014/11/patriots-film-review-patrick-chung-devin-mccourty-being-used-perfectly/):

Darrelle Revis was incredible. He only allowed two receptions and both were forgivable: a 24-yard screen and a 17-yard reception by wideout Golden Tate when Revis was tangled up in a rub route. Revis had four pass breakups on 10 targets, mostly covering Tate, but he also chipped in on Calvin Johnson and tight end Eric Ebron.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/11/patriots-film-review-patrick-chung-devin-mccourty-being-used-perfectly/

That said, the Broncos use picks/rub routes a lot. They practice it, which you absolutely should if you're gonna try and run it, because refs look for this sort of thing. Players are coached on how to run legal pick/rub plays. As stated in the last paragraphs of the MMQB article:

Picks, rubs and screens. We’ll probably see a little bit of everything on Sunday. Hopefully you can now tell what is legal and what isn’t, although the ultimate call falls to the trained eye of the flag thrower. The truth is, most of the picks you’ll see on Sunday are legal.

“Every eligible receiver has an official watching him and what’s going on,” Daopoulos says. “You don’t see too many calls on it because most of the players are pretty well schooled. They know what the rules are, they know what they can do. And now that you’re in the playoffs, the last thing these guys want to do is do something illegal and wipe a big touchdown off the scoreboard. The players, especially at this point, know what they’re doing.”
 
But NE does pick plays all the time as well, and is caught doing it

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/15/new-england-patriots-denver-broncos-afc-championship-game-pick-plays/

Here's another article about how the Bills did it against the Pats:

http://www.patspulpit.com/2014/10/1...s-affect-the-patriots-defenses-press-coverage

Even Revis has talked about how Patriots like to use picks or rub routes (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...evis-prepping-buccaneers-mates-for-patriots):



Another article on Patriots using the pick/rub route to their advantage:
http://blogs.thescore.com/nfl/2012/...aking-down-the-patriots-double-china-concept/

The Lions used rub routes against the Patriots to get Golden Tate open for a reception this past weekend (http://nesn.com/2014/11/patriots-film-review-patrick-chung-devin-mccourty-being-used-perfectly/):



That said, the Broncos use picks/rub routes a lot. They practice it, which you absolutely should if you're gonna try and run it, because refs look for this sort of thing. Players are coached on how to run legal pick/rub plays. As stated in the last paragraphs of the MMQB article:

Broncos use tons of illegal screens and picks. They are rarely called for it
 

Zeke

Member
Jesus I didn't recognize mech with that new avatar. Mech did you post JJ watts feel good turkey give away story?
 

MechDX

Member
Jesus I didn't recognize mech with that new avatar. Mech did you post JJ watts feel good turkey give away story?

Of course I posted it. I also realized I was suppressing my Patriot fandom and just needed to let it out. Hail Lord Tom and beat the posers from Green Bay!

EDIT: Wait. I did the pizza give away to the HFD and HPD. he did turkeys as well?
 

zychi

Banned
Skins need to just stop drafting qb's for awhile. There really isn't any point in drafting them if all of them are going to die on the field

They really should be removed from the league overall.

Snyder is a bribing asshole
The name is racist
The team is terrible
Just spread the players out via waiver wire/FA
Start a whole new franchise without Snyder in LA or Portland.
 

Zeke

Member
Of course I posted it. I also realized I was suppressing my Patriot fandom and just needed to let it out. Hail Lord Tom and beat the posers from Green Bay!

EDIT: Wait. I did the pizza give away to the HFD and HPD. he did turkeys as well?
I heard Turkey's on the news maybe I heard wrong. Ugh I need green bay loss and a Seattle win to help Dallas.
 
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