Because if every team played every other team each season all players would be brain dead within a year.
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NFL 2014 Week 17 |OT| - For the Division
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Because if every team played every other team each season all players would be brain dead within a year.
Coldnoodle
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Everyone would die.
Murray is brought to you by Dasani though.
shadyspace
Banned
You'd have entire teams on IR before they hit 31 games.
Elfforkusu
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After Sterling Sharpe and Robert Brooks went down in the span of less than 2 years, Barry was my favorite offensive player in the league, period, until he retired.
It helped that he always struggled against the Packers. And that he was a highlight film every play.
In all seriousness: history. You had the NFL which then got a rival in the AFL. They decided that they needed a game to highlight the best from each league. Hence the Superbowl
Then the two leagues merged basically forming the AFC and NFC.
And the players would all be on IR or braindead
Then the two leagues merged basically forming the AFC and NFC.
And the players would all be on IR or braindead
BaltimoreLarry
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Marshall Yanda, Doom, and CJ Moseley all Pro Bowl starters, with five alternat-----who gives a fuck.
In my mind the playoffs would make sense if you only played every team within your conference. You could then state the teams in the AFC playoffs are the best teams within the AFC.
Physicality of the sport is an argument. Has the league considered modify the season so you atleast play every team within your conference, perhaps decrease the number of games you play against your division rivals to only one.
Cheers for the response by the way. I've only been living in the states for 4 years so American football is very new to me.
EDIT: You could counter the injuries by increasing the roster size so teams could compensate for injuries, perhaps provide a mid-semester break of a few weeks. Has their been talk of increasing say to 20 games a year - perhaps folding the preseason into the regular season?
Elfforkusu
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Not meaningless, but yes, unbalanced scheduling is inherently unfair -- both from a stats perspective and an overall wins/losses perspective. In a perfectly fair world, every team plays every other team, and there are no playoffs required. However:
1) even balanced scheduling is pretty unfair in the NFL, considering the inevitability of injuries. Even if all teams played 31 games, some would lose their star players in game 15, and the lucky teams that faced them during the back half of the schedule would benefit. This already happens even with 16 games -- see Seattle playing Arizona for the division last week against the Cardinals 50th backup QB of the year.
2) gridiron football is a brutal game. Players are already at the upper limit for how much punishment their bodes can take over a 16 game season. More is insanity. (in Goodell's case, greed for an 18 game season...)
3) having playoffs is more fun anyway.
You make a great point with Arizona. I have noticed that finding capable replacements for positions like QB is an extraordinary difficult task in American Football in comparison to many other sports.
Thanks for the response.
WesternHeretic
Member
It's still insane.... the football career is really short compared to a basketball and baseball and I think the schedule is perfectly fine.
A) It's 6 games within your division.
B) It's 4 games against a division within the same conference.
C) it's 4 games against a division within the other conference.
D) it's 1 game against a team within the same conference from another division that finish the same spot within their division as you did in yours from the previous year. For Example NFC West #1 vs NFC North #1 from last year.
E) Same thing as E but from the last division. Ex: NFC West #1 vs NFC South #1 (implying B was NFC East).
Himynameischris
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Not just QBs, look at teams like the Raiders, Titans, Jags, massive lack of talent on those teams. There just aren't enough good players to go around. Increasing roster size would delude the play on the field.
Elfforkusu
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I think it's also fair to note that the NFL has iterated quite a bit on their scheduling rules as they've expanded. Essentially, the "problem" from a pure game theory perspective is that there are too many teams and too few games. They've done a few things that we now take for granted:
1) play your division rivals twice, every year. Home/away. No doubts who the best team in the division is most of the time.
2) added the "wild card" playoff spots, which make an attempt to account for unfairness where one division has a disproportionate amount of good teams.
3) scheduling that attempts to maintain balance by forcing the division champs in the same conference to play each other the following year
4) round robin-ing everything else, to make sure the league stays as a cohesive entity. Every team plays every other team within a 4 year span.
I do think there's a case to be made that the NFL split the divisions too thin when the New Browns/Texans joined. Going from 3 division winners with 3 wild cards to 4 with 2 wild cards is ultimately what's getting us these 7 win division champs.
(the problem is, you can't split "32" very many ways.)
1) play your division rivals twice, every year. Home/away. No doubts who the best team in the division is most of the time.
2) added the "wild card" playoff spots, which make an attempt to account for unfairness where one division has a disproportionate amount of good teams.
3) scheduling that attempts to maintain balance by forcing the division champs in the same conference to play each other the following year
4) round robin-ing everything else, to make sure the league stays as a cohesive entity. Every team plays every other team within a 4 year span.
I do think there's a case to be made that the NFL split the divisions too thin when the New Browns/Texans joined. Going from 3 division winners with 3 wild cards to 4 with 2 wild cards is ultimately what's getting us these 7 win division champs.
(the problem is, you can't split "32" very many ways.)
Wow, good on him.
And then the reg season is pointless like every other sport. No thanks.
Elfforkusu
Member
I believe your sarcasm detector may be miscalibrated!
It was a joke. The 16 game schedule is pretty much as good as it's gonna get. I think the only thing I'd like to see different is 8 teams from each conference make the playoffs. But really, even then I can't complain because top two seeds having a first week bye is a fantastic incentive to have a great regular season.
Fuck you kas
Forever fuck your team for making this man quit football.
It was probably for the best. The guy had a couple more seasons in him but the franchise was going no where, and Matt Millen would be hired two years later.
I remember the Bucs vs. Lions playoff game in 1997 only to lose in the wildcard.
WesternHeretic
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With 8 teams no one gets a bye.
I think 7 teams is best. Only #1 gets a bye and the other 6 duke it out. Leaving 3.. and then you have 4.
8 teams also means 16 teams in the playoffs which means 50% of the league make the playoffs.
Elfforkusu
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I think 7 teams in the playoffs (14 total) would be a mistake.
Would sooner jettison the 7 win division champ.
It's going to happen next year. It's going to be ok, though, because of the 4 team expansion into Euroland.
Elfforkusu
Member
Woo, St Louis cops gunned down another black kid tonight. Merry Christmas!
I need to leave this shitty city.
I need to leave this shitty city.
The cream always rises to the top and the shit sinks to the bottom regardless of who plays who. It has a way of sorting itself out.
I do agree it gives some teams a pretty easy road to the playoffs if a division is continuously mediocre.
I like the nfl season as it is now. More games is just begging for more injuries, more tired players, and lower quality play. Right now there are enough games for teams to rise and fall and course correct along the way. I like the amount of in-division games everyone plays and the way the final quarter of the season is stacked. The playoffs are solid too especially with so many top teams still competing for a 1st round bye.
unknownstranger
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I'm sure if you gave players a choice between how the schedule is now and 1 week between the NFC/AFC Championship game and Super Bowl but a second bye, 99% of the players would take the second bye.
ConradCervantes
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I usually don't buy division champion apparel since it's not nearly as impressive as, say, Super Bowl Champions, but I might make an exception since I have some free time on Monday. After the playoffs I'll put it away so I won't be the only one wearing that tired stuff while every other Packer fan is wearing Super Bowl XLIX Champions attire.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
The season is fine as it is. Any longer and it'd start to wear out its welcome. Baseball would almost be watchable if it was 40-50 games a season, too.
The NFL needs a real minor league division (no, the NFC South doesn't count) though. Put it during the offseason and groom talent for the big boy league and it'd be pretty cool.
The NFL needs a real minor league division (no, the NFC South doesn't count) though. Put it during the offseason and groom talent for the big boy league and it'd be pretty cool.
That 'only' advantage Collins has makes him a far more versatile player. He has far more tackles than Hightower, more tackles for a loss, 3 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and a blocked kick. The guy is all over the fucking place, making big plays.
Because:
1.) Stafford is an elite Pro Bowl QB
2.) Because Eli Manning robbed Stafford of his 2011 Pro Bowl Selection when Stafford fucked around and dropped 5,000 yards, 41 TDs and led the Lions to the playoffs.
3.) Because the Lions are in the playoffs again due to Staffords leadership and clutch throws.
Restore the Roar 2014.
That's not funny.
Don't you dare try to insinuate or encourage injuries on our franchise QB, Matthew Stafford. Stafford has a strong jaw which can take an impact to the head, but that hit is no joke.
I don't care if I have to go to Albania or Cambodia I will find you. Good Luck.
Don't you dare try to insinuate or encourage injuries on our franchise QB, Matthew Stafford. Stafford has a strong jaw which can take an impact to the head, but that hit is no joke.
I don't care if I have to go to Albania or Cambodia I will find you. Good Luck.
Come at me kas, knowing you, you probably can't even walk outside your door fatty.
Listen, if you post gifs trying to insinuate or hope for an injury to Matthew Stafford you have something else coming for you.
And even in this garbage gif Stafford takes the sack like the fucking mans man he is. He took that sack from the sorry ass Packers and we still won.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ppreciation-for-matthew-stafford-around-here/
When the fuck has a garbage Bucs QB ever had the balls of steel that Matthew Stafford has?
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