I don't think I'll ever fully understand what the mindset was behind trading a future first round pick to get Sammy Watkins. Did Doug Whaley really think they were one player away with EJ Manuel as their quarterback? That move eliminated any opportunity they may have had to exercise patience.
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NFL 2014 Week 4 |OT| Hell is Empty and All The Devils Are Here
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I don't think I'll ever fully understand what the mindset was behind trading a future first round pick to get Sammy Watkins. Did Doug Whaley really think they were one player away with EJ Manuel as their quarterback? That move eliminated any opportunity they may have had to exercise patience.
This is about a GM trying to save face after trading away a 1st round pick.
Browns could have a top 3 pick in the draft and make the playoffs.
yankeehater
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I was coming her to post this. I wanted EJ in the draft so I wouldnt mind at all the Eagles bringing him in.
HarryDemeanor
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People of Buffalo!
THE AGE OF ORTON BEGINS!
THE AGE OF ORTON BEGINS!
BannedEpisode
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MRI came back clean and he's already better according to zimmer.
Sounds like Touchdown Teddy is going to go ham. Probably will stiff arm Clay into the dirt!
BlackGhost
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Sweeney Tom
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Fun Fact! The Lions have started 3-1!
The last time they did that? 2013 (finished 7-9)
Before that? 2007 (finished 7-9)
The last time they did that? 2013 (finished 7-9)
Before that? 2007 (finished 7-9)
RellyRell28
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How JJ Watt was a Walk on at Wisconsin I'll never know
BlackGhost
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Pat Kirwan ‏ @ PatKirwanCBS 9s
It looks like the start of 'panic' Monday-EJ Manuel benched after 6-8 career start more TD than int. He needs more time.Is Geno Smith next?
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 27m
Decision to bench EJ Manuel shows that Doug Marrone knows new owner is going to hire his own people unless team is great this year.
It looks like the start of 'panic' Monday-EJ Manuel benched after 6-8 career start more TD than int. He needs more time.Is Geno Smith next?
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 27m
Decision to bench EJ Manuel shows that Doug Marrone knows new owner is going to hire his own people unless team is great this year.
He really wasn't that special at Pewaukee.
RellyRell28
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Both years we went 3-2 after going 3-1. We must win Sunday to break the trend and if we win our next two games we'll match our 2011 start.
It's not really fair to compare Geno Smith to EJ Manuel. Manuel had a better offensive line, better receivers, better running backs, and a better defense and hasn't put together more than a handful of games in which he looks like a person who knows how to play professional quarterback.
BannedEpisode
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Lmao
I said it yesterday night and I'll say it again: EJ Manuel is awful.
He can't read defenses, has poor reaction time, and throws at the feet or 15 feet over the receivers head. He isn't the guy. His footwork is pretty sloppy, too. Kyle Orton will play decently for them - at least they will see what they have in Watkins, Woods, and Mike Williams.
Every time I watch the Bills play I am blown away with how slow Manuel is and going through progressions, setting his feet, and reacting to blitzes. It really is mind blowing. I've seen almost no progression from him since last year.
He can't read defenses, has poor reaction time, and throws at the feet or 15 feet over the receivers head. He isn't the guy. His footwork is pretty sloppy, too. Kyle Orton will play decently for them - at least they will see what they have in Watkins, Woods, and Mike Williams.
Every time I watch the Bills play I am blown away with how slow Manuel is and going through progressions, setting his feet, and reacting to blitzes. It really is mind blowing. I've seen almost no progression from him since last year.
:jnc
I think EJ will be better off in another situation. Maybe where he can develop in a better environment for him, without all the pressure of being a first-round pick and the starter.
Nemesis121
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Coaching for your job usually means you gonna lose it, and with the benching of EJ for Orton if they fail to make the playoffs everyone in the front office and coaching staff is gonna get fired by the new owner.
Future PhaZe
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I almost feel like QB's are just held to a ridiculous standard
A vast majority of the teams that complain about their QB's have mediocre defenses and running games
A vast majority of the teams that complain about their QB's have mediocre defenses and running games
BlackGhost
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Personally I just think this comes down to a staff trying to save there jobs.
Not saying that EJ needed mores time or not though
Not saying that EJ needed mores time or not though
I think it's a lot tougher to manage QBs than any other position. Nobody bats an eye if a young receiver or defender sits a game or two after a bad game. Sit a QB and it's basically giving up on them.
ActStriker
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What's a giraffe got to do to get his time to shine?
ScottSullivan
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So it seems like Donkey Kong Suh won't be resigning with the lions, where do you guys think he ends up?
BlackGhost
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#firelovie #hirephilbin
they definitely are. QB gets team down the field for game winning field goal, Kicker misses said kick. "QB CANT WIN THE BIG GAME/SUCKS IN THE CLUTCH"
he seems like a perfect fit for the raiders.
Continuing a role of mediocrity under Capers would be fitting, but hopefully that's not with the Packers. /fingers crossed
(Ie, the packers would never sign him, but Capers seems like a perfect fit!)
Goro Majima
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i want an avi
You need Phillip Rivers face to be Harbaugh'd
Sweeney Tom
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...They were already going to.
They're still going to be fired, the Bills will still be a bad team, EJ will still be a bad QB. This didn't even prolong anything. The only thing that's actually changed here is a different QB is going to be blamed for the losses for the rest of the season.
Futurevoid
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He said he wants to play in NY. Whether that happens or not....
If i was Orton Id be pissed, he was basically retired. So clearly his heart is done for the game. They were paying him 5 million to be a back up. Im sure he'd rather make 5 million drinking jd and visiting Toronto strip clubs then having to give a fuck about the Bills and their next sub .500 season
Buckethead
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Clay will dropping into coverage on account of his hurt penis.
Your offensive line will have to contend with the likes of Nick Perry and Mike Neal.
Nah, he was making $4m to be retired and specifically signed on with the Bills because he knew it was the path to least resistance to a starting job with a team that is actually somewhat attractive given the weapons he'd have around him.
Think he ends up with the Raiders or the Jets.
Futurevoid
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Cards update:
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BlackGhost
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Buffalo Bills @buffalobills · 46m
Doug Marrone: "We have a playoff caliber team. This gives us the best opportunity to win."
Chris Brown @ChrisBrownBills · 55m
Marrone cites production as main reason for change. "Can't keep going in direction that we're going." # Bills
Doug Marrone: "We have a playoff caliber team. This gives us the best opportunity to win."
Chris Brown @ChrisBrownBills · 55m
Marrone cites production as main reason for change. "Can't keep going in direction that we're going." # Bills
Sweeney Tom
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$5.5 mil. And he gets another $5.5 mil next year if they agree to stick together.
The dude did nothing all year and is now $5.5 mil minimum richer, a starting QB again, and doesn't have to worry about Texas fans wanting him dead because he didn't want to break his back for them too. So far this year in the league, Orton has come out a bigger winner than everybody.
That grantland article with Charlie whitehurst proved that the best way to win at life is being just good enough to be a career back up and suckering teams into thinking you're worth the investment.
BlackGhost
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Rumors that Cavs are interested in trading for Roy Hibbert. Man, 10 years of prosperity in the cleve!
Sweeney Tom
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LaRon Landry failed a drug test. Suspended 4 games.