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NFL 2015 Divisional |OT| - A Fraud Divided
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It's an overglorifed media player. Don't need more space for netflix and ps1 games.
FrenchMovieTheme
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People think this shit is madden. Sure fuck it go for 2!
Like, CLEARLY you should use Madden tactics in real life playoff game situations...
Holy shit, people...
>_>
WesternHeretic
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Some NFL coaches are worst than the Madden AI though lets be real.
ATOMICJORGE
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Greetings from Mexico! Vamos Hawks
Himynameischris
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Wut? He got hurt late in the third and it was 16-13 at the half....and we gifted you two points. After the first two scores bradford did nothing for two quarters. I think you need to rewatch the game friend.
It had a 500 gb drive,
WesternHeretic
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TheLegendary
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4 hours later...
ATOMICJORGE
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Yes sir
WesternHeretic
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Yes sir
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Grenouille
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Yea I never understood why a team doesnt get the chance to answer a touchdown on overtime. What if the team's strength is its offense? Too much power given to a coin toss.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Fuck you asshole
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Woke up and watched it on Gamepass, holy shit I love Larry Fitzgerald so much. What a guy. Found myself giggling like a schoolgirl at that Floyd TD too, what a fucking game.
Then the offense should have scored more points in the preceding 60 minutes.
Yup, he's the only guy in the league who might be able to drag lardarse Stafford to a playoff win in his career.
EDIT: I see people shitting on the Cards DBs for the Hail Mary at the end of regulation but it's on the guy rushing off the right edge, Calais Campbell I think?
The defence sent five or six rushers at the QB, the only way Rodgers could hurt them was by running out of the pocket so the most important thing was to keep contain. Rodgers dropped back 12-15 yards, Campbell got sucked inside at like 8-10 yards and made it easy for Rodgers to roll out and buy time.
That kind of stupidity drives me fucking crazy and shows that coaches tend to put the dumbest athletes at defensive end. Literally had one job and he fucked that up.
Then the offense should have scored more points in the preceding 60 minutes.
Yup, he's the only guy in the league who might be able to drag lardarse Stafford to a playoff win in his career.
EDIT: I see people shitting on the Cards DBs for the Hail Mary at the end of regulation but it's on the guy rushing off the right edge, Calais Campbell I think?
The defence sent five or six rushers at the QB, the only way Rodgers could hurt them was by running out of the pocket so the most important thing was to keep contain. Rodgers dropped back 12-15 yards, Campbell got sucked inside at like 8-10 yards and made it easy for Rodgers to roll out and buy time.
That kind of stupidity drives me fucking crazy and shows that coaches tend to put the dumbest athletes at defensive end. Literally had one job and he fucked that up.
teruterubozu
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I still can't believe Andy Ried's shitty play calling and bad clock management at the end of both halves. Isn't he one of the most veteran coaches in the NFL?
Dutch Gronk
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Grover Cleveland
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Happy NFL Sunday
Go Panthers
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OuterLimits
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Carson had a pretty shit game, bud damn if he didn't redeem himself on the first play in OT. I know many are focusing on Fitz, which he obviously deserves. but Carson somehow avoiding the blitz and even doing a spin move was pretty damn impressive. The good thing about Palmer is that even in bad games he never seems to lose confidence and will keep taking risks.
Also I wonder if his finger is still giving him issues. He hasn't been the same since that happened. Although last night seemed to be more about making shitty decisions.
Also I wonder if his finger is still giving him issues. He hasn't been the same since that happened. Although last night seemed to be more about making shitty decisions.
Grover Cleveland
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So it's currently snowing in Charlotte...
NFL PLAYOFF SNOWBALL!
NFL PLAYOFF SNOWBALL!
too bad very little chance it keeps snowing through kickoff and 0% chance that any of this sticks
friskykillface
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it didn't flip
personally I would have gone for 2 but then again i'm an idiot.
I factor in SHOOK as a factor these days, you have a Cardinals defense that just had 2 hail marys thrown against them and that was after you blitzed x had them start from the 10/5 yard line
Fitz god doesn't play defense so he can't stop the 2 point conversion ;p
personally I would have gone for 2 but then again i'm an idiot.
I factor in SHOOK as a factor these days, you have a Cardinals defense that just had 2 hail marys thrown against them and that was after you blitzed x had them start from the 10/5 yard line
Fitz god doesn't play defense so he can't stop the 2 point conversion ;p
Shiera Seastar
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The Albatross
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5 straight AFC Championship games
OfficerRaichu15
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Haven't admitted this but I jumped on the Hawks bandwagon with that beast mode run lol.
So I've been a Hawks fan ever since.
So I've been a Hawks fan ever since.
Dutch Gronk
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Hi! Go Hawks from Austria!
All these Seahawks Bandwagoners
FloydtheFathead
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I don't get a shoutout.. Okay Western.. I see how it is. Hurts me a little..
Dutch Gronk
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GRONK is life
BassForever
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So to people crying about the nfl ot rules and how it should be more like college... What exactly are you proposing?
Lets say hypothetically after that Cards td they kick off and GB now drives and scores a matching TD then what? Do you want the game to now be sudden death where a fg can win? Or do you want BOTH teams to get another shot with the ball? I don't want to be here all night long watching teams drive 80 yards to keep matching scores. If your special teams and defense can't get your offense the ball and can't hold the other team from getting a td in a sudden death esque situation you deserve to lose.
Lets say hypothetically after that Cards td they kick off and GB now drives and scores a matching TD then what? Do you want the game to now be sudden death where a fg can win? Or do you want BOTH teams to get another shot with the ball? I don't want to be here all night long watching teams drive 80 yards to keep matching scores. If your special teams and defense can't get your offense the ball and can't hold the other team from getting a td in a sudden death esque situation you deserve to lose.
elrechazado
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OfficerRaichu15
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Hey 5 years is better than 2
I mean I might be the only seahawks bandwagoner who jumped on when they were in the playoffs with a 7-9 record
Exactly, and what if Arizona kicks a FG and GB scores a TD, should Arizona get a chance to answer the TD? Where do you draw the line?
NFL OT rules are designed to do one thing, end the game as quickly as possible. If the NFL could get rid of OT, they would. The last thing they want are tie games and games dragging on.
You're saying offense in the NFL is so prolific that teams could consistently exchange 80-yard touchdown drives, but also one team and one team alone should have to stop such a drive or they deserve to lose.
Goro Majima
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It's not always a good thing apparently
DeaconKnowledge
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You should post here more often Harson, then you may actually pick up on subtle things like context.
Zvonimir Boban
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What the NFL should do is abolish OT entirely.
Allow ties in the regular season, which will give us even more opportunities to call coaches cowardly as they decide to kick the PAT/FG instead of going for two/TD at the end of games.
In the playoffs, a tied game goes to a shootout where both kickers take kicks starting from the 10 yard line and if both kicks are successful then the ball is moved back five yards. Keep going further and further back until a kick is missed or blocked.
This works on three levels:
Allow ties in the regular season, which will give us even more opportunities to call coaches cowardly as they decide to kick the PAT/FG instead of going for two/TD at the end of games.
In the playoffs, a tied game goes to a shootout where both kickers take kicks starting from the 10 yard line and if both kicks are successful then the ball is moved back five yards. Keep going further and further back until a kick is missed or blocked.
This works on three levels:
- The tension would be unbearable and it makes for great TV
- Everyone loves to shit on kickers
- It would piss off pretty much every journalist, football pundit, ex-player and football fan in the world, which would be hilarious
DrForester
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Go Panthers I guess. But I'd rather they find a way to both lose...
B
bomb
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From ESPN today:
McCarty's Mistake
The irony, of course, is that they're advancing at the expense of the Packers and coach Mike McCarthy, who leaves the postseason in the wake of another game management blunder. Last year, it was McCarthy's hyper-conservative decision-making early in the game which cost the Packers critical points they would need later in the contest.
This year, it was not going for two after the Hail Mary. Kickers hit 94.2 percent of their extra points this year; that figure rose to 97.6 percent indoors, and Crosby was 36-for-36 this year, so let's just be kind and say that Crosby's going to tie the game 98 percent of the time. (Vikings fans will tell you that no kick is automatic.) So 2 percent of the time, the Packers lose without ever getting to overtime.
If the Packers do go to overtime, they're going to be underdogs. The Cardinals were seven-point favorites heading into the contest; after taking out the vig, the implied odds from the Vegas money line suggested that the Packers had a 26 percent chance of winning the game. Green Bay had certainly played better than they had during Arizona's regular-season blowout in the previous matchup, but they had lost Randall Cobb and needed two Hail Mary completions to tie the game.
It's almost always better for the underdog to try to turn the game into a shorter contest. Taken to an extreme, if you're playing Steph Curry one-on-one and you start with the ball, it's better to play to one than 11, because you might fire off a jumper and get lucky, but you're not going to hit 11 shots over Steph without giving him the ball.
Even an aggressive estimate would suggest that the Packers had, say, a 40 percent chance of winning the game if it went into overtime. Factor in the aforementioned possibility of a missed Crosby extra point and you're down to a 39 percent shot if you kick the extra point. The chances of the Packers converting their two-pointer are almost definitely better than 39 percent. The league has converted 48.1 percent of its attempts over the past three years, with the Packers going 5-for-9. Give the Cardinals credit for a tough defense and take into consideration that the Packers don't have a great running game. You're still going to find it difficult to come up with a scenario in which the chances of winning the game heading into overtime are better than converting a two-pointer.
And if you really want, pretend for a moment that the percentages are tied. There's also the small matter of the M-word. If you believe that momentum is a meaningful concept in terms of how teams win and lose football games -- and I am admittedly skeptical -- why would you ever let the game slip into overtime? Having knocked the Cardinals onto the ropes with one of the more stunning sequences in playoff history and with a minute to figure out which play you wanted to run while referees reviewed the touchdown, why wouldn't McCarthy think that his chances of winning the game were better with one immediate play?
All things weren't equal, and that included Arizona's coaching advantage. McCarthy played it safe yet again, and it ended up costing his team another postseason in the prime of the 32-year-old Rodgers' career. He coached to put off losing as long as possible. Arians coached to win, and while it raised some eyebrows and nearly cost his team the victory, he made far more defensible decisions than his counterpart.
McCarthy's choice was safer and attracted far less attention, but that doesn't make his decision the correct one. Instead of going by the book, McCarthy could take a page out of Arians'. A lot of coaches should.
McCarty's Mistake
The irony, of course, is that they're advancing at the expense of the Packers and coach Mike McCarthy, who leaves the postseason in the wake of another game management blunder. Last year, it was McCarthy's hyper-conservative decision-making early in the game which cost the Packers critical points they would need later in the contest.
This year, it was not going for two after the Hail Mary. Kickers hit 94.2 percent of their extra points this year; that figure rose to 97.6 percent indoors, and Crosby was 36-for-36 this year, so let's just be kind and say that Crosby's going to tie the game 98 percent of the time. (Vikings fans will tell you that no kick is automatic.) So 2 percent of the time, the Packers lose without ever getting to overtime.
If the Packers do go to overtime, they're going to be underdogs. The Cardinals were seven-point favorites heading into the contest; after taking out the vig, the implied odds from the Vegas money line suggested that the Packers had a 26 percent chance of winning the game. Green Bay had certainly played better than they had during Arizona's regular-season blowout in the previous matchup, but they had lost Randall Cobb and needed two Hail Mary completions to tie the game.
It's almost always better for the underdog to try to turn the game into a shorter contest. Taken to an extreme, if you're playing Steph Curry one-on-one and you start with the ball, it's better to play to one than 11, because you might fire off a jumper and get lucky, but you're not going to hit 11 shots over Steph without giving him the ball.
Even an aggressive estimate would suggest that the Packers had, say, a 40 percent chance of winning the game if it went into overtime. Factor in the aforementioned possibility of a missed Crosby extra point and you're down to a 39 percent shot if you kick the extra point. The chances of the Packers converting their two-pointer are almost definitely better than 39 percent. The league has converted 48.1 percent of its attempts over the past three years, with the Packers going 5-for-9. Give the Cardinals credit for a tough defense and take into consideration that the Packers don't have a great running game. You're still going to find it difficult to come up with a scenario in which the chances of winning the game heading into overtime are better than converting a two-pointer.
And if you really want, pretend for a moment that the percentages are tied. There's also the small matter of the M-word. If you believe that momentum is a meaningful concept in terms of how teams win and lose football games -- and I am admittedly skeptical -- why would you ever let the game slip into overtime? Having knocked the Cardinals onto the ropes with one of the more stunning sequences in playoff history and with a minute to figure out which play you wanted to run while referees reviewed the touchdown, why wouldn't McCarthy think that his chances of winning the game were better with one immediate play?
All things weren't equal, and that included Arizona's coaching advantage. McCarthy played it safe yet again, and it ended up costing his team another postseason in the prime of the 32-year-old Rodgers' career. He coached to put off losing as long as possible. Arians coached to win, and while it raised some eyebrows and nearly cost his team the victory, he made far more defensible decisions than his counterpart.
McCarthy's choice was safer and attracted far less attention, but that doesn't make his decision the correct one. Instead of going by the book, McCarthy could take a page out of Arians'. A lot of coaches should.
In the regular season, I'd give each team the ball at the 50, going the same direction. Can kick a FG, go for 2, whatever. Whoever has the most points wins, and if it is a tie, then it is a tie
Post-season same thing but, if tied after the first round, have to go for 2
God I wish they would do this, but I have completely given up on people not whining about it. Sportswriters typed up a column in HS called "A Tie is Like Kissing Your Sister" and would trot it out every year the local team played a tie game
I've never had a problem with the idea. If two teams play 60 minutes of football, then it sure seems like the most fair thing to do is call it a tie, if the score is still even. And it absolutely increases the tension on late game strategy. Best hope we have of it happening is for Emperor Trump to issue a decree in a couple of years
Dutch Gronk
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CrocMother
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I feel like 90% of the time coaches would just take the tie during the regular season. I think it would make it less exciting.
The_Darkest_Red
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Hmm, how can I put this.
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PANTHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRS!!!
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PANTHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRS!!!
Zvonimir Boban
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Imagine the final few weeks of a season and a team a game or two out of the playoff spots has to go for two points or the TD in the final minutes of every game, it would be great.
DeaconKnowledge
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Squicken actually in here begging for ties?
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