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[LJ11]

But Cam is the MVP and there's no statistical argument to be made otherwise am I right?

I was going to necro bump the contract thread yesterday evening, I'm waiting until after he chips up once more, please allow me that honor. Made by a Seahawks fan no less, can't blame the dude, he's been watching football for 2 years, has no clue.

 

[Spectral Glider]

Who do the Giants play next?

I would bet good money we'll hear about some pregame incident directed straight at Beckham.

The Vikes. Peterson to use switch on OBJ!!

 

[Futurevoid]

The Vikes. Peterson to use switch on OBJ!!

If he appeals and wins, he better wear a cup.

 

[Line_HTX]

Piccolo Peterson to instill some discipline in Beckham.

 

[Crisco]

But Cam is the MVP and there's no statistical argument to be made otherwise am I right?

Yeah, so? Cam has a whole list of history making statistics to his name this season, besides all his clutch play saving the Panther's undefeated streak.

 

[Hindl]

Seems logical and not even a little bit controversial.



Russ gets my vote!

I keep going back and forth between Wilson and Cam, but Russ is really making a push.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Since since is now the WWE and props are allowed, the Packers need to start sending Janis with the Paul Bunyan ax over to the opposing sides warmups.

With a gopher head in tow?

 

[Draxal]

This made me laugh more than it should have.

My view is this:

1. Odell should be suspended.
2. Panthers can have all of the bats they want in the locker room or for whatever ritual they want but I have no clue why they hell it needs to be on the field pre or post game. General view for any team, really. Including the Giants.

Bingo.

 

[Himynameischris]

Alright guys, here are some pics I took.

Here is Tannehill throwing a Pass

Here is Wake

Here is a cool panoramic shot I got

Here are the football gods checking in on us

And of course here are the cheerleaders while a dude was getting arrested at the end of the game

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Giants get SNF

League suspends Beckham one game.

 

[Line_HTX]

There will be no Luck against Miami.

Derpyhill has a chance!

 

[eznark]

I keep going back and forth between Wilson and Cam, but Russ is really making a push.

I think they've had impressive seasons but the Seahawks are a much more flawed team so I'll go with Russell. Also because I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT I WOULD DO IF THIS MAN I WILL NEVER MEET WINS A MEANINGLESS INDIVIDUAL AWARD JUST THE THOUGHT OF IT OH MY GOD THE RAGE THE RAGE THE RAGE

 

[JABEE]

Jesus that is embarrassing.

He is getting older.

 

[MechDX]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 25s26 seconds ago
Andrew Luck will not play in Week 16 against Miami, per head coach Chuck Pagano

Just shut him down

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

But Cam is the MVP and there's no statistical argument to be made otherwise am I right?

Agreed.

 

[Bowser]

Cam Newton is the unquestioned best player on an undefeated team with great numbers and there are still folks looking for ways to give other guys the MVP.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Brady is the mvp

 

[Line_HTX]

I think they've had impressive seasons but the Seahawks are a much more flawed team so I'll go with Russell. Also because I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT I WOULD DO IF THIS MAN I WILL NEVER MEET WINS A MEANINGLESS INDIVIDUAL AWARD JUST THE THOUGHT OF IT OH MY GOD THE RAGE THE RAGE THE RAGE

Fuck Sissy. He's not getting the award.

And fuck Tom also.

 

[eznark]

Melvin Gordon to IR

 

[Himynameischris]

Oh luck is out? I'll just leave this here:

If you beat the Colts I will call you Master Trejo for a year

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187843425&postcount=2998

if the Dolphins beat the Colts I will never openly support Texans North East again.

Deal?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187843020&postcount=2994

Spoiler

We still gonna lose

 

[Spectral Glider]

Giants get SNF

League suspends Beckham one game.

And if the Skins beat the Kellys on Saturday night, the Giants are toast anyway. But hey, NY, NFC Least, blah, blah, blah.

 

[JABEE]

Brady is a fraud

.

 

[The Albatross]

But Cam is the MVP and there's no statistical argument to be made otherwise am I right?

Russel is having a top 5 year. Cam is having a top 1 year.

Only way I see Newton losing the MVP vote is if the Panthers go 1 and done in the playoffs which I don't see happening. MVP Voting doesn't officially take playoffs into account, but if Brady or Palmer lead their teams to the Super Bowl, and the Panthers somehow lose their first game, then that's the only reasonable argument against Cam for MVP IMO.

But I think Brady and Palmer are in the hunt.

 

[DMczaf]

Melvin Gordon to IR

I swear I thought he was the entire season

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I said the guy couldn't throw from the pocket - lights up the Steelers for 5 TDs.


Russ just keeps proving me wrong.

 

[eznark]

I swear I thought he was the entire season

I heard Melvin Gordon say he thought the Bucs got contracted a decade ago.

 

[Line_HTX]

Stang marks!!!

Terrible on what happened to Marcus.

Zach should say hello to our little friend!

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

I think they've had impressive seasons but the Seahawks are a much more flawed team so I'll go with Russell. Also because I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT I WOULD DO IF THIS MAN I WILL NEVER MEET WINS A MEANINGLESS INDIVIDUAL AWARD JUST THE THOUGHT OF IT OH MY GOD THE RAGE THE RAGE THE RAGE

You'll probably come here and bitch about him just like usual.

15th best QB's got this.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

.

You're a pervert

 

[Crisco]

I don't understand where all this "Panther's must sit their starters" talk is coming from. We haven't even clinched the #1 seed yet and the Cardinals play after us next Sunday. If we beat Atlanta (or the Cardinals lose to the Packers) then sitting our starters in the final game becomes a serious consideration.

 

[eznark]

Russel is having a top 5 year. Cam is having a top 1 year.

Only way I see Newton losing the MVP vote is if the Panthers go 1 and done in the playoffs which I don't see happening. MVP Voting doesn't officially take playoffs into account, but if Brady or Palmer lead their teams to the Super Bowl, and the Panthers somehow lose their first game, then that's the only reasonable argument against Cam for MVP IMO.

But I think Brady and Palmer are in the hunt.

Pretty sure all the votes are due before the playoffs start.

 

[Bowser]

Russel is having a top 5 year. Cam is having a top 1 year.

Only way I see Newton losing the MVP vote is if the Panthers go 1 and done in the playoffs which I don't see happening. MVP Voting doesn't officially take playoffs into account, but if Brady or Palmer lead their teams to the Super Bowl, and the Panthers somehow lose their first game, then that's the only reasonable argument against Cam for MVP IMO.

But I think Brady and Palmer are in the hunt.

thatsnothowanyofthisworks.gif:

The AP NFL MVP award is voted upon by sportswriters at the end of the regular season, before the playoffs, though the results are not announced to the public until the day before the Super Bowl.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Most_Valuable_Player_Award

 

[Spinluck]

Oh luck is out? I'll just leave this here:


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187843425&postcount=2998




http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187843020&postcount=2994

Spoiler

We still gonna lose

You won't, I'll save my breath though, kept telling Texans fans not sweat the game in Indy either.

But I guess you'll have to see the league's worst offense the last 3 weeks to believe it yourself.

 

[Spectral Glider]

I don't understand where all this "Panther's must sit their starters" talk is coming from. We haven't even clinched the #1 seed yet and the Cardinals play after us next Sunday. If we beat Atlanta (or the Cardinals lose to the Packers) then sitting our starters in the final game becomes a serious consideration.

They could put the Georgia Bulldogs out there and beat the Falcons.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Alright guys, here are some pics I took.

Here is Tannehill throwing a Pass


Here is Wake


Here is a cool panoramic shot I got


Here are the football gods checking in on us


And of course here are the cheerleaders while a dude was getting arrested at the end of the game

It's horrible getting into the stadium right? But overall how was it?

 

[cdyhybrid]

Yeah, so? Cam has a whole list of history making statistics to his name this season, besides all his clutch play saving the Panther's undefeated streak.

Russell doesn't have the luxury of practice squad goons going Tonya Harding on the opposing team's star players before the game.

 

[Grover Cleveland]

I don't understand where all this "Panther's must sit their starters" talk is coming from. We haven't even clinched the #1 seed yet and the Cardinals play after us next Sunday. If we beat Atlanta (or the Cardinals lose to the Packers) then sitting our starters in the final game becomes a serious consideration.

Derek Anderson could blow both the Falcons and Bucs out

 

[squicken]

This Harrington thing is fascinating

As for Saban, he and I actually had a really good relationship. Many people think of him as a little dictator, but we got along really well. He could be honest with me, and I would listen. After four years of having something said to my face and different things said behind closed doors, all I wanted was a coach who told me where I stood. Nick gave that to me.

Part of me thinks that had Nick stayed in Miami, and not left for Alabama, I’d have stayed there as well. There was a sense of stability about Saban’s stint in Miami. In another life, it might’ve been the place where I really regained my football footing. Sadly, this one had other ideas.

----

That team had a head coach, Bobby Petrino, who was so ill-equipped to coach an NFL team, it was laughable. If anybody challenged him, or suggested something different, the person was cast away. It was an unhealthy environment from the get-go, and it wouldn’t get any better.

 

[DMczaf]

https://vine.co/v/iKOtVIKbUDQ

ew

 

[Himynameischris]

It's horrible getting into the stadium right? But overall how was it?

yeah getting in was horrible, so poorly designed but once inside I had a blast, it was awesome being around so many Dolphin fans, I knew going in how bad we were so I didn't let that ruin it.

 

[The Albatross]

In defense of Brady for MVP...

Rushing Leaders by team:
2. Seattle
3. Carolina
6. Arizona
.
.
.
27. New England

New England is the only team below 1300 yards rushing that's most likely in the playoffs. There are only 2 teams below 1400 yards that are in the playoffs if the season ends today, Denver (#18) and Washington (#20), and neither of them are really locks.

But, still, I think it goes to Newton. A sizeable chunk of Carolina's rushing yardage comes from Newton, and more even comes from his ability to scramble so defenses have to spy him and open up one less defender to cover the RB.

 

[Wellington]

Giants get SNF

League suspends Beckham one game.

Can a game be unflexed?

Say what you guys want about OBJ, but he and Eli were the only two guys not sleep walking through the whole game. (And the offensive line but I wanted to exaggerate for my point).

Can't wait for Vikings with no AP vs Giants with no OBJ.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Cam will get MVP to take our minds off the outrage we feel when Adrian Peterson gets Comeback Player

 

[cdyhybrid]

In defense of Brady for MVP...

Rushing Leaders by team:
2. Seattle
3. Carolina
6. Arizona
.
.
.
27. New England

New England is the only team below 1300 yards rushing that's most likely in the playoffs. There are only 2 teams below 1400 yards that are in the playoffs if the season ends today, Denver (#18) and Washington (#20), and neither of them are really locks.

But, still, I think it goes to Newton. A sizeable chunk of Carolina's rushing yardage comes from Newton, and more even comes from his ability to scramble so defenses have to spy him and open up one less defender to cover the RB.

Team that doesn't run the ball has few rushing yards. Shocking.

 

[Hindl]

Cam Newton is the unquestioned best player on an undefeated team with great numbers and there are still folks looking for ways to give other guys the MVP.

I know a lot of people are just shitting on Cam but here's my thoughts, between the big four so far: Palmer, Brady, Wilson, Cam.

Palmer has been playing lights out football, and some of his throws last night were unreal. However, the Cardinals are a team that is stacked top to bottom with talent, so I think even with Drew Stanton, they would find some success and make the playoffs as a WC, so I'll cut Palmer.

Brady has been dealing with an average defense and Oline, a revolving door of RBs, and injuries up and down his WR core. However, as long as he has Gronk he puts up good numbers. Without him, Brady looked mortal. I know the injuries, but compare this to the next two.

The Panthers have no one really on their WR core, but Greg Olsen is making plays, albeit not to the level Gronk is. Add in the fact that Cam himself is moving the ball on the ground even when his receivers can't do anything, and that puts him above Brady for me.

The Seahawks are in a similar position as the Panthers, with a mobile QB, strong defense, and no name receivers. However, the reason I may side with Wilson is that he doesn't have Marshawn Lynch. Jonathan Stewart isn't on Lynch's level, but he's at least better than Bryce Brown and Christine Michael. I know that Stewart is hurt now, but Wilson had to literally will his team into their current streak, without their star running back. So that might just edge out Cam for me. Either one are excellent choices though

 

[WesternHeretic]

Russell doesn't have the luxury of practice squad goons going Tonya Harding on the opposing team's star players before the game.

Which begs the question should we do it? Panthers taking up after the Saints and their thuggish ways. I think it is just an NFC South thing.

 

[DMczaf]

Cam will get MVP to take our minds off the outrage we feel when Adrian Peterson gets Comeback Player

That's Doug Martin's award!

 

[Trey]

Brady is clearly fourth in MVP consideration in my mind.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Alright guys, here are some pics I took.

Here is Tannehill throwing a Pass


Here is Wake


Here is a cool panoramic shot I got


Here are the football gods checking in on us


And of course here are the cheerleaders while a dude was getting arrested at the end of the game

Looks like a good time.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Brady is clearly fourth in MVP consideration in my mind.

If a Pat gets it, it should be Gronk.