Limited Edition
Banned
I bet when they told poor Johnny that he immediately felt like a man in front of a firing squad.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
NFL 2015 Week 9 |OT| - A Fraud Had Some Nice Shoes
- Thread starter ActStriker
- Start date
I bet when they told poor Johnny that he immediately felt like a man in front of a firing squad.
While Cam's accuracy is not ideal, it sounds like nitpicky bull to complain about it when his team is 7-0 and he has also engineered many clutch drives and throws.
His largest success is rebuilding the culture in Denver after McD fucked it all up. McD is a fucking loser plain and simple. It's too bad the vacuum of Shanahan caused them to make such a terrible choice when they hired him. That's Elway's greatest victory imo.
Damn. Of course it would make too much sense for us to grab him so it probably won't happen.
Yeah, I'm taking everything with a grain of salt for the next 90 minutes.
great offensive coordinator though
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Even with the Pats you always see them doing weird little trades and roster moves to try and improve the roster another half a percent. It's nothing major but oftentimes that sort of competitive drive to always improve in any way possible is what makes the difference.
I guess what separates the best GMs from the pack is being able to make high risk decisions that pan out.
I thought it was kind of silly for Elway to load up on defensive players after Denver lost the Super Bowl with the offense putting up 8 points. The 85 Bears or 76 Steelers defense wouldn't have won that game. It was clear than as it is now that the offense is the problem and it starts with the guy under center. They won't win a Super Bowl with him.
Ninja Scooter
Member
It's easier to find defensive players than franchise QBs though.
He's really started to understand what he's working with, but for a while he thought everybody was randy moss.
Trading away Twp first rounders doesn't really make too much sense.
Should I not complain about the Patriots offensive line injuries because the team is 7-0? Nah I think I'll continue to do so.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
The Panthers are 7-0. How dare you criticize the team!
They have no more tackles and guards, receivers are washed up, the corners get beat, and Tom screams like a Biaaatch~
Am I doin' it right? =D
Ninja Scooter
Member
True. It would also be higher if he was a better passer.
Have you seen Andrew Billings of Baylor play? If so what do you think of him.
slightconfuse
Banned
Someone get clevland judges opinion on Johnny starting
Hey hot dog guy is stoked
Hey hot dog guy is stoked
The_Darkest_Red
Member
It would be lower if he was a worse passer.
You, sir, have good tastes and made a great choice. The OST rocks as well.
Ninja Scooter
Member
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Dutch Gronk
Banned
I think that the main issue with Cam is that he sometimes isn't very accurate with his passes and at the same time his receivers don't always catch the ball when it's thrown to them.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
This is what despair does.
Dr. Chang going to get that work in as the season progresses..
You don't like action and fighting. You are terrible.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
I thought for a second your avatar was eating ass.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Grover Cleveland
Member
I don't think Cam Newton is a great passer of the football.
I don't think Cam Newton will ever be a great passer of the football.
Right now, I think he's average as a passer but can occasionally make terrific throws. I think his ceiling is a good passer who has the capability to make those great throws often.
I don't think he'll ever be a guy who terrorizes defenses exclusively with his arm.
But my thing is, how much does that really matter when he's finding ways to win regardless. For a long time, I was told that the true hallmark of a great quarterback was a guy who could overcome adversity and lead his team to victory.
And Cam's doing that. Sure it's unorthodox and sure it's ugly sometimes, but at the end of the day he's doing exactly what he's being asked to do, right?
So what's the problem with it?
Like I said, when he was putting up historic numbers as a rookie, it was Just Losez. Now that he's leading an undefeated football team, it's But His Stats Tho. You can't pick and choose your metric by which you judge QBs just because it makes a guy you don't like look bad.
I don't think Cam Newton will ever be a great passer of the football.
Right now, I think he's average as a passer but can occasionally make terrific throws. I think his ceiling is a good passer who has the capability to make those great throws often.
I don't think he'll ever be a guy who terrorizes defenses exclusively with his arm.
But my thing is, how much does that really matter when he's finding ways to win regardless. For a long time, I was told that the true hallmark of a great quarterback was a guy who could overcome adversity and lead his team to victory.
And Cam's doing that. Sure it's unorthodox and sure it's ugly sometimes, but at the end of the day he's doing exactly what he's being asked to do, right?
So what's the problem with it?
Like I said, when he was putting up historic numbers as a rookie, it was Just Losez. Now that he's leading an undefeated football team, it's But His Stats Tho. You can't pick and choose your metric by which you judge QBs just because it makes a guy you don't like look bad.
Coldnoodle
Member
It's so good.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Those people are wrong. You can be a decent (or sometimes bad) QB and still win games. Look at Mark Sanchez. Look at Tebow. Look at Flacco. Look at Dalton this year. Hell look at Peyton this year. Not everybody is Brady or Rodgers. But I don't think the fact that his team is 7-0 should exempt him from criticism as far as his individual play. Last night the Panthers won but Cam played like shit for most of the game. Those two things can and should be separated.
Haven't seen enough to form an opinion. Although, I read he should be getting more attention than Oakman. Curious to see how well he tests.
What are your thoughts?
I don't think Megatron gets traded today but I'm pretty certain we'll trade him in the offseason.
And if Caldwell was going to get fired it would've happened yesterday so I think we're riding with him till the end of the season. I just don't see what Assistants or HC candidates will be available once the season is over and what happens with Martin Mayhew and Tom Lewand.
And if Caldwell was going to get fired it would've happened yesterday so I think we're riding with him till the end of the season. I just don't see what Assistants or HC candidates will be available once the season is over and what happens with Martin Mayhew and Tom Lewand.
Oh, no, Brady said on the radio that it's hard to win and everything is difficult.
[Ougi's sarcastic manner] "It's like, disappointing."
No pls
Sweeney Tom
Banned
yankeehater
Member
There was a guy from PFT on the radio in Vegas today. The host asked him what he thought of Cam this year and the great season he was having and the PFT guy said he had him rated as the 28th best QB this year. The announcer was incredulous that a 7-0 QB could be rated so lowly. Cam was dreadful in that game against the Eagles, but the Panthers run the ball and play D so that covers up a ton of his poor play.
Can't deny that.
He doesn't have the skills to be a HC, namely the soft skills. Belichick even has those as frigid and cantankerous as he can be.
Similar threads
- Locked