And it was because he was a mismatch in the passing game not running the ball.
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NFL 2016 Offseason Thread |OT3| - With the 29th pick of the 2016 NFL draft...
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AbortedWalrusFetus
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The Pats offense hasn't been the same since they got slammed for cheating again.
That's because they played the matchup game with Lewis, and didn't have anyone else in the backfield that could do that. The Pats offense is much better when they have a legit pass catching threat out of the backfield. The good news is that they are pretty good at finding that guy. Need a backup for Lewis though just in case.
Alligatorjandro
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I just hope Lewis comes back from the injury.
PanicFreak
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I'm looking forward to Von Miller putting the hurt on some franchise quarterbacks this year.
Goro Majima
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Damn, who is going to tell us that "the team that scores the most points will win the game" now?
The_Darkest_Red
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I just hope the Pats never win another football game.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I just hope the Dolphins get sent to Siberia.
Time to make gator a television star!
Duxxy3
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He's a dual threat. He can run the ball and catch the ball. The defense needs to account for both possibilities.
With Blount on the field you don't need to worry about the possibility of him catching the ball. With James White on the field you don't need to worry about him running the ball.
Dion took Shane Vereen's role on the offense. Vereen was huge in the super bowl. Without him I don't think we win that game.
I'm a fan of 3 down backs. Players that aren't one dimensional and easily accounted for. I think Bill is as well. He traded into the fifth round to pick up Dixon or Booker. But he played his hand too early and both were taken. He thought he could get Jonathan Williams with his sixth rounder, but lost on that one as well.
If, and this is a big if, Dion Lewis is healthy for the whole season, we are going to tear shit up.
Tom Nook
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A lot of people are leaving ESPN lately.
HarryDemeanor
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Trent Dilfer left a long time ago. They hired an actor to play Trent Dilfer and you can't tell the difference.
WesternHeretic
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BURN THE SHIP!
Was Simmons the first was there someone even before him that started this chain? I know Beadle did a few years ago but she found no sucess and had to come back.
I can't wait until they lose to the Raiders in the Divisional Round next season.
Futurevoid
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Also not doing a player by player but a quick write-up on the Giants draft - it was a very un-Giants like draft and I've said as much before. No offensive or defensive lineman taken at all which was a surprise. Reese is generally a "build in the trenches" type of GM, especially on the defensive side of the ball but this was a needs draft and it showed through and through. I'm sure it was "best player available" but only in the sense that it was BPA at a position of need.
My view is a positive one. We addressed some significant holes on the roster. Call Apple a reach all you like but its very likely Miami would have taken him at 13 according to reports out there. The Giants have nothing at corner behind the two starters and one of them isn't getting any younger so while Conklin would have made feel better about the right side of the line, Apple has an opportunity to immediately start at the nickel for us and provide some serious help on the back end.
We picked up an excellent prospect at WR that will immediately get on the field and gives us big insurance in case Cruz isn't what he was. We addressed the FS position with a guy that could have gone in the 2nd round and should pair really nicely with Collins. We also addressed the LB, RB and TE positions with some late draft picks that will help us on special teams and may have the ability to end up contributing in other areas (Goodson in particular likely has the best shot at MLB).
Giants best pick: Sterling Shephard. Easily. If Cruz is actually healthy this year, this could be a potent offense with OBJ, Cruz and Shephard (along with Harris as a fourth WR).
Pick I most like: Paul Perkins. I've been watching some of his games over the past few days and I really really hope that this kid gets a chance in the RB rotation sooner rather than later. His ability to catch the football should make for a fun pair to watch if both he and Vereen are in the rotation.
My view is a positive one. We addressed some significant holes on the roster. Call Apple a reach all you like but its very likely Miami would have taken him at 13 according to reports out there. The Giants have nothing at corner behind the two starters and one of them isn't getting any younger so while Conklin would have made feel better about the right side of the line, Apple has an opportunity to immediately start at the nickel for us and provide some serious help on the back end.
We picked up an excellent prospect at WR that will immediately get on the field and gives us big insurance in case Cruz isn't what he was. We addressed the FS position with a guy that could have gone in the 2nd round and should pair really nicely with Collins. We also addressed the LB, RB and TE positions with some late draft picks that will help us on special teams and may have the ability to end up contributing in other areas (Goodson in particular likely has the best shot at MLB).
Giants best pick: Sterling Shephard. Easily. If Cruz is actually healthy this year, this could be a potent offense with OBJ, Cruz and Shephard (along with Harris as a fourth WR).
Pick I most like: Paul Perkins. I've been watching some of his games over the past few days and I really really hope that this kid gets a chance in the RB rotation sooner rather than later. His ability to catch the football should make for a fun pair to watch if both he and Vereen are in the rotation.
My eyes told me he had the best get-off of the DTs in the draft. His jumps confirmed it. Steelers are putting him in the best position to use his explosiveness.
Edit: Look at his mockdraftable graph. Crazy.
Last yr:
3rd in the NFL in points (29.1)
6th in yds per game (374.4)
5th in passing yds per game (286.7)
This while Gronk, Edelman, Amendola and Lewis missed multiple games last year. Also the Patriots O Line that was bad last year.
Futurevoid
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Lots of fifth year options getting picked up around the league, some not and some question marks:
Alligatorjandro
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Who would throw the football
Gronk
We should have drafted him in the 2nd round instead of some Notre Dame center. Get the center as an UDFA instead.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kaimi-fairbairn?id=2555374
My head hurts trying to pronoumce that
Himynameischris
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They have some nobody throwing it now, I don't think that's important.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Tannehill doesn't play for the patriots
Duxxy3
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Not a response, just putting up 2014 numbers
4th in the NFL in points (29.3)
11th in yds per game (365.5)
9th in passing yds per game (257.6)
18th in rushing yds per game (107.9)
in 2015 - 30th in rushing yds per game (87.8)
yankeehater
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Usa today's draft rankings: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-grades-picks-class-analysis-rounds/83771600/
Eagles are dead last.
Eagles are dead last.
The_Darkest_Red
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The good news is these rankings are worthless.Usa today's draft rankings: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-grades-picks-class-analysis-rounds/83771600/
Eagles are dead last.
PanicFreak
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Well, if you read Disney's investor reports, you'd see that ESPN has been struggling to deal with cord cutters, while at the same time being locked into long term contracts with the NFL, NBA, SEC and other leagues. ESPN needs to cut costs so you can imagine where executives are going to look. Those former athletes are going to get axed left and right.
Himynameischris
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Of course not, look at that handsome face. That's a man with morals and a soul.
lol wat
yankeehater
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Of course they are. Just thought it was something to read today. It is probably for the best to not have people saying you had the absolute worst draft, but in the end it will all depend on if went is good or not.
There goes a lot of former player perspective analysis, lol
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
"YOU KNOW BILL WHEN I PLAYED THE KEY TO THE GAME WAS TO SCORE MORE POINTS"
"LOL TOM THE ONLY KEY YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR IS THE ONE TO A BETTER TAILOR LOL"
Yeah, they'll surely be missed.
Futurevoid
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So nothing of value will be lost, then.
rokkerkory
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Usa today's draft rankings: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-grades-picks-class-analysis-rounds/83771600/
Eagles are dead last.
what cowboys got a D? come on lol
Himynameischris
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MMQB on Tunsil Pick from Miami
Good read on what went down in Miami War Room as Tunsil kept falling. So glad Miami did the smart thing and took him.
Good read on what went down in Miami War Room as Tunsil kept falling. So glad Miami did the smart thing and took him.
CrocMother
Banned
My first thought was the opposite. They value entertainment over analysis. Dilfer wasn't good at either. He wasn't even a particularly good football player.
Mackenzie 92
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Karl Joseph killing a man.
I said damn...
Crazy thing about Dilfer is that he's actually pretty solid at evaluating QBs.
I said damn...
Crazy thing about Dilfer is that he's actually pretty solid at evaluating QBs.
BUt then promptly say they are moving a franchise LT to guard. Are they really doing that?
AngmarsKing701
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Is this the trade? Siberia Dolphins and the Pats never win another game, ever?
Done.
CrocMother
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"They didn't pick the guy I had them taking in my mock, so it must be a bad pick."
Himynameischris
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That's what they've said, even called Albert after the pick to let him know he was still the LT but I think after they start training camp they'll see the error of their ways and move him to LG and start Tunsil at LT....or at least I hope :/
Mackenzie 92
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Nothing wrong with doing that for the 1st year. Tunsil still needs some work and Albert is good when he's healthy. Ogden played OG his 1st year as well.
The_Darkest_Red
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I would also approve this trade.
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