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NFL 2016 Offseason Thread |OT3| - With the 29th pick of the 2016 NFL draft...
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I loved the 32 bit era. Shit was so new and every few months you got to play something that was never seen before.
But I have no intention of ever turning on my N64 or psx ever again. That shit is just unplayable now. At least for me. I normally always want the real deal but for that gen emulate and upres the fuck out of that shit.
Especially you!
then who will
VeryGooster
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http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-je...-young-jets-quarterback-via-madden-video-game
I'm not really poking fun at this. Just kind of amused though.
think he'll take a best coast discount?
manfestival
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im better now but still feel bad
lol its funny how the chinese food triggered it
Have gastritis and a UTI.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Man I stubbed my little toe so hard I thought it was going to fall off. Strangely the pain did not linger long, but it is pretty black and blue now.
We have heard of SPARQ as a weight adjusted measure of athleticism. Kent Lee Platte has come up with another neat system to compare athleticism, he calls it RAS or Relative Athletic Score.
Pretty neat. http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2016/...hletic-scores-what-they-are-and-why-they-work
Trying to post this on mobile is a bitch.
Pretty neat. http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2016/...hletic-scores-what-they-are-and-why-they-work
Wouldn't it be great if we could just put a number on these measurements that would show the context right in the number? Like you could see a score for a 40-time and know whether it was good or bad for their position? From that simple idea, Relative Athletic Scores was born.
The Scale.
I decided very early on to put it on a 0 to 10 scale. Why 0 to 10? It's a neat little trick used in statistical polling. Give someone a scale of 1 to 10 and they will sometimes confuse what constitutes good. Is a one good or is a 10 good? Am I rating this correctly? Change that scale slightly so it's 0 to 10, and it is inherently understood that zero is bad and thus 10 is good. Using this scale offered that context I wanted to provide. I wouldn't have to worry about whether a score was above or below average anymore. If I saw a guy had a 6.5 out of 10, and 5 is average, then it's obviously above average. Math!
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So how does it work? RAS is essentially a ranking system, so it roughly correlates to percentile. While I always say that 5.00 is average, that doesn't quite describe it accurately. A better way to describe that 5.00 middle mark is that it is the score for the average player at that position. Shouldn't that be the same thing as an average, you ask? Why no, no it is not. It's an oddity of studying these measurements so much, but in most cases the actual mathematical average (the mean) tended to be a good deal above what the average player at a position would score. So for instance, a player who had an actually average score may end up with a 7.50 for that measurement. That wasn't what I wanted at all. I used an incredible amount of math to get to the current system, you guys, and I don't mean incredible as in "wow, that's amazing!" but more in the "wow, that's overly complex and cripplingly unexplainable" kind of way. Using the calculations as they are now, we get to see what the average player at a position scored at each measurement (closer to a statistical median than a mean).
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Now it's pretty simple. The actual numbers correspond loosely to percentile, so a player with a 9.87 score for his 40 time managed to be in about the 98.7th percentile of his position group for that measurement. The final number -- the one we actually refer to as the player's RAS -- is gained by averaging the individual scores for each player at a position. This raw average is then compared to the raw averages for every other player at the position to come up with the final Relative Athletic Score for a player.
It isn't a perfect system, and like the measurements themselves, there are plenty of outliers. What it gives us, though, is a way to put a number on a player's measurements as a whole when compared to several hundred other players at their position over the past 17 years (2000-2016). It's a lot of data and I'm continually adding to it. Adding more data does affect existing scores, but not very much. After adding over 1,500 players this offseason, the biggest change was only about 4%, with most scores being affected by about 1%.
The Weighting.
Because a player may not have completed all measurements, I set the minimum required to calculate a score at six. Why six? I didn't want any particular area to take up more than half of the score. At most, speed takes up about 30 percent of the total score, but if we only had five measurements and three of those were the 40-yard dash and its splits, we would end up with speed covering about 60 percent of the score. That was unacceptable. With a minimum of six, speed can only ever take up half the score, not even that when considering the 10-yard split (more later).
To break it down further, RAS is calculated from 10 different measurements, each of which account for 10 percent of the average. Height and weight make up the size portion, accounting for roughly 20 percet of the score. The 40-yard dash and its splits of 20 and 10 account for speed, about 30 percent of the score. This is slightly misleading because the 10-yard split is also used as a measure for explosiveness. Depending on your leanings in that regard, speed could be considered anywhere between 20 and 30 percent, so let's just call it 25 percent.
Bench is a measurement of upper body strength, which only accounts for 10 percent of the grade. Positions like wide receiver and quarterback rarely even bother with the bench, but we still use it where available until there is something better. Vertical, broad jump, and the aforementioned 10-yard split account for explosiveness. Using the same logic we used for speed, we'll call it 25 percent. The 20-yard shuttle and three-cone drills measure hip and ankle bend and agility, the final 20 percent of the final score. It ends up looking like this:
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What makes RAS different than any other measurement, including the ones it represents? Why is it any more useful than just using the base measurements? That answer is what has made me so excited in its application, and also why I can't post the whole gamut online anymore. See, most statistical representations in the NFL, in fact most in general, can be represented on a bell curve. Bell curves show what is known as "Normal Density", and a majority of those measured will tend to fall closer to the average. The further you are from average, the fewer players you will encounter with scores out there. When represented on a table, it gives you that nice bell shape.
Each of the individual scores in RAS, for 40 time, weight, bench press, etc. will also end up on a bell curve when put in chart form. This makes sense since the individual scores are just a different way of looking at the original data. The final RAS, however, does not follow Normal Distribution. Once RAS is calculated fully, the scores are equally distributed from 0 to 10. What that means is that if you have 100 players, you would have 10 from 0-1 RAS, 10 from 1-2, 10 from 2-3 etc. all the way to 9-10. Since it's equally distributed, we can get a much clearer picture of trends since there is no longer a need to account for volume. There will always be exactly the same number of players above 5.00 as there are below 5.00 for any position. So when I say something like "defensive tackles rating 5.00 or above make the pro bowl FIVE TIMES as often as those rated below 5.00," I'm speaking of sample sizes that are equal in volume. It's tough to find in statistics, and it's valuable for football.
Trying to post this on mobile is a bitch.
Glad you're okay. Have some OJ!
fuck little toes man they only exist to get stubbed
We'll give you Marshall Newhouse for literally anybody.
manfestival
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lol the nurse said that OJ is bad because of its acidic elements. I got some gatorade though
pffft Nurses. Would you do what MRSA told you to do?
Himynameischris
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Marinos first TD pass....
#MarinoMonday
#MarinoMonday
Elfforkusu
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Warriors beginning their 4 game depantsing of the Thunder.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Not a catch in the modern league. Or maybe it is. No one knows!
Himynameischris
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AbortedWalrusFetus
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That ball was placed so well a child could have scored that TD. Marino was awesome.
The Cardinals aren't going to get a 16 game season out of Carson Palmer like they did last season. It's not happening.
Though the Cardinals are a team that have had the Lions number for whatever reason the last decade.
http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/detroit-lions/teamvsteam?opp=1
Last seasons game was probably the worst performance I've seen the Lions play since Stafford's 2011 season. It was needed though as it eventually led to the firing of Joe Lombardi and the promotion of Jim Bob Cooterr.
Whenever we play the Cardinals its frustrating watching us lose whether edit was in 2014, 2013 or 2012.
I'm watching the game(s) and I know the Lions are a better team yet the Cardinals still manage to either win a close game or kick the hell out of us.
They're a team we should beat because we have a better roster and QB but they've had our number.
Hell of a coaching staff with Bruce Arians though. Top 5 Coach in the league probably.
We see them in the playoffs this year though and the Lions will have our 2nd playoff win in 50 years
We are so blessed!
WesternHeretic
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Looking good but could be better. OKC needs to lose by 30+ every game for me to be happy.
Elfforkusu
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You won't get that, the Warriors like to play with their food before they eat it.
Oh hey, Andrew Luck is completely healthy again. He'll be back to throwing good interceptions.
Doh-hohoho
Himynameischris
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WesternHeretic
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You have way too much hate in your life.
Needs some Russell in his life. Worked for us
WesternHeretic
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It's fucking happening.
leave
Go Thunder, Curry love has reached disgusting heights. I love him as a player though, BUT it's time for Bestbrook and Durant to get theirs.
Sorry Cdy.
fuck the sonic
CrocMother
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Tell you what man, Thunder and Cavs are the hungriest teams in this playoff.
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