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NFL 2016 Offseason Thread |OT3| - With the 29th pick of the 2016 NFL draft...

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Fantomex

Member
Stumpokapow said:
Errr... the actual reason people use the metaphor "this is like high school" is to refer to situations where small cliques of people ostracize and insult others over unimportant aesthetic preferences. You know, like sports. That's honestly why the metaphor exists at all. But yes if you think the metaphor "high school" means "having the naive idea that people can rein in the shit talk long enough to be a decent human being once in a while", then by all means I recommend finding a more adult forum like 4chan or Yahoo! News comments sections.

Another option is that many sports communities who have not enjoyed the fascist moderation by us overpaid crybabies have successfully migrated to Slaent, which I understand is a very good place to talk about sports and not weighed down by having shitty moderators like here. I highly recommend it. Looks like they've got a few tens of thousands of posts in their NFL thread too, so you're probably not even missing out on GAF's size or speed. And they have round avatars that are bigger than GAF's. This isn't me being a shit disturber, I'm literally saying if you sort of decide that the rules we have are no good and make posting here no fun, that's awesome, and I hope you find somewhere that's more fun.

Look, no one is saying you can't point out that the Jaguars are a shitty team headquartered in maybe America's worse city in a state that we can only hope global warming will sink. It's just maybe try not collectively being serial assholes to people who aren't part of the cool kids club, and when someone points out that you are maybe don't reply with "fuck you fascist, you're a baby". It's not really rocket science.
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I like you and I like your dog avatar. Can we please get you on the record to admit Pats fans are the worst?
 
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bionic77

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XiaNaphryz said:
Well, you've had some borderline posts that I've had to try and push back on to keep you from from getting nabbed again. Too many of ya'll are still pushing the edge at times.

So again as a general reminder, try to keep the shit-talking primarily about players and teams. I've still seen some comments from others around the forum saying they're too intimidated to participate in the sports threads or are afraid that this thread is going to get nuked eventually just from their observations as a lurker.
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Shouldn't there be an exception for shit talking posts if they are funny?

You should take this up with upper management and see what they say.

And honestly in my experience the people who go cry to the mods are whiny assholes who post dumb shit and get called on it and then go to the mods and say we are mean. Why you guys listen to those snitches I will never understand.

Bread said:
Bionic is like Brandon spikes, he would be useful back in the 60s or 70s when he was in college but now it's a new generation where his shit talking isn't effective.
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Please bitch.

I am in my prime. Right now I am too busy making money but eventually America will fuck it all up and elect some idiot for President. Once they wreck the economy and I am working part time as a used car salesman to put food on the table I will have more time to educate your ignorant asses (please clean your ass people and always wash your hands afterwards, this ain't New England, we all civilized here).
 
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Futurevoid

Member
bionic77 said:
Please bitch.

I am in my prime. Right now I am too busy making money but eventually America will fuck it all up and elect some idiot for President. Once they wreck the economy and I am working part time as a used car salesman to put food on the table I will have more time to educate your ignorant asses (please clean your ass people and always wash your hands afterwards, this ain't New England, we all civilized here).
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:jnc
 
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Fantomex

Member
bionic77 said:
Shouldn't there be an exception for shit talking posts if they are funny?

You should take this up with upper management and see what they say.

And honestly in my experience the people who go cry to the mods are whiny assholes who post dumb shit and get called on it and then go to the mods and say we are mean. Why you guys listen to those snitches I will never understand.


Please bitch.

I am in my prime. Right now I am too busy making money but eventually America will fuck it all up and elect some idiot for President. Once they wreck the economy and I am working part time as a used car salesman to put food on the table I will have more time to educate your ignorant asses (please clean your ass people and always wash your hands afterwards, this ain't New England, we all civilized here).
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Bionic you need to get on that Metamucil asap, you know you forgot to take it.

In other news, you see this came out? Would go nice with your Soundwave.
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Zvonimir Boban

Banned
Stumpokapow said:
Errr... the actual reason people use the metaphor "this is like high school" is to refer to situations where small cliques of people ostracize and insult others over unimportant aesthetic preferences. You know, like sports. That's honestly why the metaphor exists at all. But yes if you think the metaphor "high school" means "having the naive idea that people can rein in the shit talk long enough to be a decent human being once in a while", then by all means I recommend finding a more adult forum like 4chan or Yahoo! News comments sections.

Another option is that many sports communities who have not enjoyed the fascist moderation by us overpaid crybabies have successfully migrated to Slaent, which I understand is a very good place to talk about sports and not weighed down by having shitty moderators like here. I highly recommend it. Looks like they've got a few tens of thousands of posts in their NFL thread too, so you're probably not even missing out on GAF's size or speed. And they have round avatars that are bigger than GAF's. This isn't me being a shit disturber, I'm literally saying if you sort of decide that the rules we have are no good and make posting here no fun, that's awesome, and I hope you find somewhere that's more fun.

Look, no one is saying you can't point out that the Jaguars are a shitty team headquartered in maybe America's worse city in a state that we can only hope global warming will sink. It's just maybe try not collectively being serial assholes to people who aren't part of the cool kids club, and when someone points out that you are maybe don't reply with "fuck you fascist, you're a baby". It's not really rocket science.
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I'm cool with all of this, as long as I can still call Bread a twat.
 
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Himynameischris

Member
Alright I'm calling it for the Colts...


With the 18th Pick the Indianapolis Colts select...Ryan Kelly, C - Alabama

I took the write up from CBS, fuck it. Bills are on the clock!! They have until 6PM PST

1. Los Angeles Rams - Carson Wentz - QB - Himynameischris - Wentz has the size and strengths that NFL teams look for in a QB, he's got a big arm and he's athletic too. However on the field he's got a lot of work to do, He's got very sloppy footwork and he'd succeed in an offense that would limit his throws to the short/Intermediate routes, at least until he works on his deep ball accuracy. Surrounded by a strong run game that features Gurly and a good defense might be enough to help Wentz learn on the job.

Fantomex - With the first pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, The Los Angeles Rams select Carston Wentz from the University of North Dakota State. A two year starter (Hi Tannehill!) who went 20-3. Raised in an under center offense, pro style reads and standard progressions. His lack of big name competition seems to be one of the big knocks. But he has good arm strength, great reads, pocket presence and decent footwork in the pocket. He also possesses great athleticism, doing better in the shuttle than even some Cornerbacks in this years draft combine. Carson Wentz seems to have all the tools to be an NFL starter and learn on the go in 2016. Wether it’s Jon Gruden, Mike Mayock, Ron Jaworski, or Trent Dilfer, they all seem to be head over heels for this guy the more they talk with him, draw up plays and go over film together. Jon Gruden called him “the most NFL ready QB to come out of the draft in years”. Most analysts compare him to Troy Aikman, based on arm strength, pocket presence and footwork. I vehemently disagree on the pocket presence, he seems to be sorely lacking this trait. The Los Angeles Rams now in their new market, hope to make a splash. They have decided to bet big on Wentz, by trading with the Tennesse Titans to move up from #15 to #1 in this years draft. The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016) third-round pick (2016), first-round pick (2017), third-round pick (2017).Rams get: Titans' first-overall pick (2016), fourth-round pick (2016), sixth-round pick (2016).

2. Cleveland Browns - Jared Goff - QB - FloydtheFathead - With the 2nd pick in the Draft. The Cleveland Browns select Jared Goff, QB from the University of Cal. Now personally, I think the Browns will trade down because Wentz is not available and I don't know if they are that sold on Jared. But for now, they'll take Jared Goff who will lead Cleveland to the Promised Land.

He's got good size. But needs to bulk up and has decent arm strength and vision and works through progressions and not just quick to dump off to the hot read.

He isn't as accurate from deep as other QBs and has played in the Spread rather than a pro style offense. But he performed well and set dozens of school records and I think Hue will develop him on the bench while RG3 hopefully stays healthy and might surprise us with a new version of himself somehow.

3. San Diego Chargers - Jalen Ramsey, DB - Bread - My San Diego Chargers select the next Deion Sanders, the next Malcolm Hero Butler, DB Jalen Ramsey.

My Chargers need a playmaker to replace old friend Eric Waddle. Ramsey should provide ball hawking skills and leadership. Bolt up or something I don't know what do we say? Save our bolts!

4. Dallas Cowboys - Laremy Tunsil, OT - CrocMother - There was discussion amongst Cowboys-GAF about Bosa and Zeke, but in the end neither were deemed worthy of such a high pick. There are reports the FO aren't fans of Bosa, and it's pretty clear that they don't have a lot of confidence in Myles Jack's knee.

Tunsil is 6'5", extremely athletic and widely regarded as the all-around best player in the draft. While the Cowboys obviously have no pressing need at OLine right now, Tunsil could significantly lower their cap hit in the coming future when their current studs' contracts come up.

There's also the possibility that Tunsil could be packaged in some sort of trade deal.

Either way, worst case scenario the Cowboys have one of the most dominant OLines of all time secured for years to come.

5. Jacksonville Jaguars - DeForest Buckner, DE - Dutch Patriot - The keyword voor the Jacksonville Jaguars this upcoming draft seems to be defence. The team is lacking some talent overall, but with Bortles at the helm, the offense could play well enough that with a good defense they can actually win games and hell, maybe even challenge for the AFC South title.

Looking at the stats, they ranked 31st in overall scoring defence, 29th in defending the pass and 15th in defending the run. They added some bodies on defence, including a rather big one in DT Malik Jackson, the lead actor from Coming to America at CB and Donte Fowler for the first time really joining the team after his injury last year.

Ramsey would probably be ideal, but just as in our draft, I assume he'll be gone before the Jags pick. Thus that leaves us with a few options: Joey Bosa, Myles Jack and DeForest Buckner. At first Jack seemed like no-brainer here, however, the injury news (smokescreens?) with regard to his knee has thrown me a bit of a curveball, so I think they might pass on him, since long-term talent will be crucial for the up-and-coming Jags. This also eliminates Bosa, who looks like a fuck-up waiting to happen.

6. Baltimore Ravens - Myles Jack, LB - Baltimore Larry - Simply put, he's the best player available, and that's what Ozzie Newsome does. If Jack does fall to six, the Ravens will happily grab him, where he looks to be an impact player from day one (if healthy). Pair him with CJ Mosely, Brandon Williams, and Jimmy Smith, giving the Ravens a nice nucleus. Adding Jack would immediately improve the defense, and despite the injury, there's too much talent to pass on here.

7. San Francisco 49'ers - Joey Bosa, DE - bigosc2k - 2015 the 49ers had an abysmal season on both sides of the ball. Figures 49ers would go defense in the first round towards the front 7 to get pressure towards the QB. Joey Bosa is the type of pass rusher this team needs to get back to their winning ways.

8. Philadephia Eagles - Vernon Hargreaves III, CB - Hindl - Despite the final tally, early in the season, the Eagles defense was playing very well. There's talent at all 3 levels of the defense that was being squandered by Billy Davis' terrible schemes and Chip Kelly's fast-paced offense going 3 and out all the time. The addition of Jim Schwartz should bring back the hard-hitting Philly Defense that's been missing since the passing of Jim Johnson. Between new players brought in to fit the scheme and as several of the Eagles' young stars already a better fit for the 4-3, this should be a formidable defense. One big weakness, however, is the CB position. Eric Rowe had a promising rookie season, and hopefully can build on that to become a top tier CB in the coming years. However, opposite him are a bunch of guys that are just ok. Pairing Rowe with another young star could push the defense over the edge. Enter Vernon Hargreaves.

Hargreaves has good instinct and is an aggressive defender. He can jam at the line and fight off defended balls. Occasionally Hargreaves will be too aggressive and will either be be baited by a smart QB or lose a step against great route runners. However, this should be balanced by his ball hawk nature causing plenty of turnovers and passes defended. Hargreaves reminds me of Asante Samuel, and him and Rowe should have the CB position locked down for years to come.

It was hard to decide between Hargreaves and Ezekiel Elliot, who could provide the lackluster Eagles offense with a weapon people would have to plan for. However, this is a team that needs a lot more talent than one guy on the offense. Meanwhile, adding another young piece to a young defense stocked with talent could push this team over the edge.

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ronnie Stanley, OT - Syrinx - I really read without a magnifying glass so I'm not typing some long explanation.just say Donovan Smith sucks.

10. New York Giants - Leonard Floyd, LB - Georgia - Futurevoid - I'm on the Floyd train. Where there is smoke, there's fire and I've said it before. I don't think the Giants take Zeke even if he's on the board (despite my being a-ok with drafting him) . Floyd is a versatile pass rusher which is what the Giants covet right now as they continue to remake a historically bad defense. His body type is a concern but I would imagine the team will want him to play in the 245-248 range and move him around the front seven (yes even with his hand in the dirt). He did alot of things for Georgia and that versatility is exactly what Reese and the FO crave and why I think they go for him.

11. Chicago Bears - Ezekiel Elliot, RB - Ohio State - Minx - The Bears have obviously shown interest in adding another starting RB as they offered CJ Anderson the biggest contract. Bears have also has two pre draft visits with Elliott. I don't believe John Fox and Pace have confidence in Langford being a every down back. Elliott offers elite talent to replace Forte and takes pressure off Cutler who has to rely on a strong ground game. If Pace sticks with going best player avaliable then Elliott is the pick even with the NFL devaluing the position.

12. New Orleans Saints - Sheldon Rankins, DT - Louisville - Malalaw, Dionysus - I am no means an expert player evaluator so I am not going to waste your time with a write up. Basically the Saints have a need at almost every defensive position except for MLB. Sheldon Rankins is in the conversation for one of the best defensive players left on the board, and the Saints need a DT.

13. Miami Dolphins Select William Jackson III CB - Houston - SkLA, Himynameischris

The Dolphins are in desperate need of almost every position on the defense but CB is the most pressing, after letting go of Brent (and Miko) we were left without a starting CB. The trade for Maxwell gave us a good #2 but we still need another starter. Jackson is taller than the CBs we usually draft and Vance has been able to get the best of the CBs he had in Cincinnati. While Jackson will take a year or two to fully develop he can still come in on day one and play opposite Maxwell. Jackson has good ball skills, is able to track the ball well when it's throw his way and has great football instincts.

14. Oakland Raiders - Jack Conklin, OT - Michigan State - Beach, McKenzie, Officerrob, MRSA

Though the current mock draft is almost a worst case scenario for the Raiders, Jack Conklin should be the pick. Though he does not fill in a pressing need and will not have high expectations as a rookie, which is rare for the Raiders, he will be expected to compete for the right tackle position with Watson (who had a season long injury last year and has't lived up to his second round pick yet) and Howard (who has actually having a productive season before getting injured late in the season and eventually fill in for Penn either next year or the year following.

He is not the most athletic tackle out there and may struggle with faster pash rushers, Conklin held his own and more throughout the season (see game vs Buckner). Tice is a hell of an O-Line coach and he has a monster O-Line to learn from. The Raiders draft the best player available.

15. Tennessee Titans Taylor Decker, OT Ohio State - Eleuin – The Titans do not hope for a miraculous drop at the top of the 2nd round and grab the last of the OTs teams seem to be comfortable with plugging in day one. Decker’s average athleticism and arm length will limit him to RT but the Titans would be happy to have him. With his huge frame 6'7" Decker is a mauler in the run game and will open up huge holes for newly acquired Demarco Murray. His slow feet may open him up to be beat by speed rushers but good technique makes him adequate overall in passing sets.

16. Detroit Lions - Andrew Billings, DT - Baylor - Kas - With the top 3 offensive lineman off the board the Lions go defense and have the perfect rotational player at Defensive Tackle to learn under Haloti Ngata (and Tyrunn Walker).

Andrew Billings is young, even for NFL draft day purposes, but as a Sophmore won Big 12 Defensive Player of the year and last year was Co-Defensive player of the Big 12. He led the Baylor Bears not only in sacks (5.5 sacks) but also Tackles for Loss at 15 which is a staggering number to have during a college season. He showed consistency at Baylor dominating the competition he faced.

His speed, size, strength and footwork stood out to me more than either of the Alabama DTs and even though he's only 21 I see him being an immediate impact, Day 1, rotating the Defensive Tackle position with Haloti Ngata and Tyrunn Walker.

Other considerations from Lions fans based off the mock picks available had me looking at Shaq Lawson, LaQuon Treadwell, Emmanuel Ogbah, Reggie Ragland, the Alabama DTs and all were taken into consideration but some of those positions have already been filled by the Lions (WR), some don't really need to (LB) and some can and will be found in later rounds (Defensive End).

Andrew Billings fits a position of need, will contribute Day 1 even if it's 35% of the snaps and would join a defensive line led by Ziggy Ansah and veteran Haloti Ngata.

17. Atlanta Falcons – Reggie Ragland, LB – Alabama – RBH
Atlanta has numerous holes on the defensive side, probably none more so than at linebacker. Ragland should help out a rushing defense that gave up the most rushing touchdowns of any NFL team last year. His coverage skills have been called into question, but he will most likely be a serviceable two-down linebacker against the run who will step in as a starter almost immediately for a depleted Falcons' defense.

18. Indianapolis Colts - Ryan Kelly - C - Alabama - CBS
The top priority in Indianapolis must be protecting Andrew Luck, and that starts up the middle. New offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski and offensive line coach Joe Philbin are looking for more athletic offensive linemen and Kelly possesses the strength, agility and pro-ready game to boost the Colts' play at any of the three interior positions.
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Colasante

Member
I also don't understand why the Panthers would be willing to let Josh Norman walk for nothing, but damn, that's one ballsy move by Dave Gettleman. Someone is going to get a major player out of nowhere with Norman.
 
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Futurevoid

Member
JABEE said:
I don't understand why the Panthers would give up his rights.
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Getts not willing to pay him obscene money now or in the future and it's likely it was heading to situation where Norman was going to sit out of every possible thing he could? You don't want someone that doesn't want to be there. Bold stuff on Getts part I have to say. I'd have at least tried to trade him and get something back for him.
 
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Line_HTX

Member
Somewhere Odell Beckham Jr. is laughing.

Himynameischris said:
Alright I'm calling it for the Colts...

With the 18th Pick the Indianapolis Colts select...Ryan Kelly, C - Alabama

I took the write up from CBS, fuck it. Bills are on the clock!! They have until 6PM PST
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That's pretty good! It all goes back to the center position.
 
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JABEE

Member
Futurevoid said:
Getts not willing to pay him obscene money now or in the future and it's likely it was heading to situation where Norman was going to sit out of every possible thing he could? You don't want someone that doesn't want to be there. Bold stuff on Getts part I have to say. I'd have at least tried to trade him and get something back for him.
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This. You have to get something for him or make him play on the tag. He's worth the tag for one season.
 
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bionic77

Member
Fantomex said:
Bionic you need to get on that Metamucil asap, you know you forgot to take it.

In other news, you see this came out? Would go nice with your Soundwave.
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That is amazing.

I am looking for something more in the Star Wars universe. I want a detailed BB8 to go with my R2. The Soundwave you got me is so epic I need something equally epic or at least an Autobot to balance things out. If you looked at my home office you would really think I was a virgin with all the shit I have in here.

And cmon fam. Don't be disrespecting my bowels like that. You know my shit is regular!
 
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Colasante

Member
Jaguars have over $40 million in cap space. It makes too much sense. I'd love to see it happen. With Norman and Myles Jack or Joey Bosa, Dave Caldwell could add two major blue-chip defenders within a week's time.
 
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Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
Stumpokapow said:
Errr... the actual reason people use the metaphor "this is like high school" is to refer to situations where small cliques of people ostracize and insult others over unimportant aesthetic preferences. You know, like sports. That's honestly why the metaphor exists at all. But yes if you think the metaphor "high school" means "having the naive idea that people can rein in the shit talk long enough to be a decent human being once in a while", then by all means I recommend finding a more adult forum like 4chan or Yahoo! News comments sections.

Another option is that many sports communities who have not enjoyed the fascist moderation by us overpaid crybabies have successfully migrated to Slaent, which I understand is a very good place to talk about sports and not weighed down by having shitty moderators like here. I highly recommend it. Looks like they've got a few tens of thousands of posts in their NFL thread too, so you're probably not even missing out on GAF's size or speed. And they have round avatars that are bigger than GAF's. This isn't me being a shit disturber, I'm literally saying if you sort of decide that the rules we have are no good and make posting here no fun, that's awesome, and I hope you find somewhere that's more fun.

Look, no one is saying you can't point out that the Jaguars are a shitty team headquartered in maybe America's worse city in a state that we can only hope global warming will sink. It's just maybe try not collectively being serial assholes to people who aren't part of the cool kids club, and when someone points out that you are maybe don't reply with "fuck you fascist, you're a baby". It's not really rocket science.
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And this pretty much shows what the problem is.

I just voiced how I felt in regards to what Xia said and I get a post trying to subtley insult me and basically say if I don't like it then leave.

I'm sure in no way do you feel you meant to insult me or imply it and in no way was my post meant to be a jab at mods.

I can look at it and whine that I'm being treated unfairly or singled out or I can shrug and go about my day still posting.
 
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Vyer

Member
somebody gonna pay a shitload for Norman.

Also, at least the eagles have Bradford ready to do some mentoring!


bionic77 said:
That is amazing.

I am looking for something more in the Star Wars universe. I want a detailed BB8 to go with my R2. The Soundwave you got me is so epic I need something equally epic or at least an Autobot to balance things out. If you looked at my home office you would really think I was a virgin with all the shit I have in here.

And cmon fam. Don't be disrespecting my bowels like that. You know my shit is regular!
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what R2 did you get
 
Goro Majima

Goro Majima

Kitty Genovese Member
Kave_Man said:
And this pretty much shows what the problem is.

I just voiced how I felt in regards to what Xia said and I get a post trying to subtley insult me and basically say if I don't like it then leave.

I'm sure in no way do you feel you meant to insult me or imply it and in no way was my post meant to be a jab at mods.

I can look at it and whine that I'm being treated unfairly or singled out or I can shrug and go about my day still posting.
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You guys like football?
 
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Euron

Member
Well DRC is getting kinda old

Do it Giants

Would be the best reality show ever made

Edit: So is the Raiders Bandwagon happening or the Jaguars Bandwagon? I need to know which AFC team I should root for to dethrone the Pats (I'm allergic to AFC North teams btw as well as Mark Sanchez)
 
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Grover Cleveland

Member
Josh Norman is not the first and won't be last defensive back made by that front 7.

Keeping integrity in the core of the defense is more important than resigning outside guys. Any money that would have gone to Norman is much better spent going to Kawann Short.

I mean, I like JNO, he's a NC kid and I wish that it would have worked out, but Getts was never going to give him the amount of money he thought he deserved after just 1.4 years of great play.

All this means is that the many regression articles coming this offseason will have another point to beat to death.
 
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Talon

Member
Grover Cleveland said:
Josh Norman is not the first and won't be last defensive back made by that front 7.

Keeping integrity in the core of the defense is more important than resigning outside guys. Any money that would have gone to Norman is much better spent going to Kawann Short.

I mean, I like JNO, he's a NC kid and I wish that it would have worked out, but Getts was never going to give him the amount of money he thought deserved after just 1.4 years of great play.

All this means is that the many regression articles coming this offseason will have another point to beat to death.
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While I agree that outside is predicated by the heart of the D, this is a far cry from you pounding your chest about #24, mane.
 
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JABEE

Member
Grover Cleveland said:
Josh Norman is not the first and won't be last defensive back made by that front 7.

Keeping integrity in the core of the defense is more important than resigning outside guys. Any money that would have gone to Norman is much better spent going to Kawann Short.

I mean, I like JNO, he's a NC kid and I wish that it would have worked out, but Getts was never going to give him the amount of money he thought he deserved after just 1.4 years of great play.

All this means is that the many regression articles coming this offseason will have another point to beat to death.
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Why not keep him for one more year? The Panthers were just in the Super Bowl.
 
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