I can easily see a restructure. Give him some guaranteed dollars over the next 2 years and lower the cap hit. He doesn't have much more than that left.
Don't think he can say no, no other team is going to pay him 12M.
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Don't think he can say no, no other team is going to pay him 12M.
yankeehater
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The team was planning to fire the Dc that helped get them to the SB even before the game was played? That is so nuts to me, wonder if it was just a case of their personalities not meshing.
What about a team like the Browns that will be desperate to get to the cap floor?
The Browns have Joe Thomas, a younger and better LT. Why would they want Peters? I don't think the Browns will have too much trouble getting to the floor
Isn't too good at drafting guys? lol look at any last decade list or even twenty year team drafting rankings. Pats top ten in any one you find.
DeaconKnowledge
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Having to acquire street FA en masse because you failed at drafting is a huge GM problem, especially in Belichick's case where all those street Free agents rally to form a competent at best defense.
0 Touchdowns returned all season, 0 forced fumbles returned. Brady prevailed but this defense gave up 21 points in 2 quarters. Falcons win and you're crowing for Patricia to be fired and Belichick to lose GM powers. Brady fixes all this teams drafting errors. Once again Belichick proves he's a mastermind at coach and a terrible GM.
Even at his age he'd instantly be the best OL on the market. He's probably only got a year or two left though
Which is why I think a 2 year deal with like 16M guaranteed will be fine. A 12M hit next season will suck.
No forced fumbles or tds on D? They gave up the fewest points in the league lol Imagine if the Pats had the Steelers garbage D. They'd be really good.
DeaconKnowledge
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Knew you'd say that. Best pass rusher on the Pats had 7 sacks all season. In Pittsburgh that's a massive problem but in Foxborough that's a Championship defense. Why? Brady.
Pats best defense is their offense and has been for years. Again, Brady fixes all drafting errors.
yankeehater
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This year I heard Brian Billick talk about Ted Thompson on NFLN and he basically said you can tell what a great GM Ted is because the Packers have the most homegrown players of any team in the league. Right or wrong GMs are absolutely judged on their ability to find players in the draft. Hell until the giants spent big on defense and had it pay off, teams were always mocked for spending big in FA.
I saw an interesting thing on the EMB today. 3 of the last 4 SB winners had the #1 overall defense the year that they won. Crazy that all the changes to offense still havent changed it from defense wins championships.
Alligatorjandro
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The pass rush is the defenses weakest link. They need someone else to pair with trey flowers and they'll be ok.
Atl averages 34 scored 21 on them
Steelers averaged 25 scored 17
I'm glad you recognize Brady is GOAT on top of that though. 😂 looking at individual stats on a Pats defense. Next you will tell me blount is the best RB in the league cuz he had lots of TDs.
I agree, I think they just restructure. He's got no guaranteed money so it's in his best interest too. But I think they'd just eat it and keep him. $12M would suck but that's the going rate for a top-tier LT. I think he might restructure, but either way I doubt he hits the open market
Wait, you cant take their total point average (which includes defensive and special teams scores) and compare it to a single game's offensive squad output.
By that I mean, NE held ATL to around 6 points below their average, not 13.
ATL scores 16 defensive TDs this year. Amazing !!!
DeaconKnowledge
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Brady is the best QB in the league and it's not close. Have said that for years. Doesn't change the fact that Asterisks' defense is not great.
Asterisks won 2 Super Bowls because of Brady's miracle heroics. Asterisks Defense failed in in the 4th quarter against the Seahawks, but Malcom Butler makes a play and the mistakes are magically fixed. Great defense? No. Well coached? Absolutely.
Don't know why you keep mentioning the Steelers. Have said repeatedly the major difference between the Steelers and Asterisks' defenses is Brady. Brady performs with average at best players regardless of defenses failures, while Ben folds when everything
isn't going as planned and defense can't keep up. Made a post about it right after the Super Bowl.
Alligatorjandro
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The defense did its job
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Ben folds. Five championships for Brady.
DeaconKnowledge
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They literally didn't.
Literally what I said. Asterisks "fans" just like Asterisks defense, can't hold up under pressure.
yankeehater
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Interesting they couldnt stop the Falcons at all in the first half but they come out for the 2nd half and the Falcons cant do anything. I wonder what could have happened during those 15 minutes to change things so much. hmmmmmmm
Not sure I agree. Lane is the future at LT. If Peters doesn't budge I can see them letting him go and just putting big V at RT. I think we're playoff contenders next season but not super bowl contenders.
I'd easily get rid of JP for Jeffrey.
Alligatorjandro
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They held them to 7 points in the 2nd half.
What about the first half
Alligatorjandro
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Held them to 14 points
OMG FINALLY WATCHED THE SUPER BOWL
BRADY!! PATRIOTS!! WHAT A COMEBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
man thank god I didn't watch it live I would have gotten a heart attack at that almost interception
how the hell did atlanta lose this holy shit. 25 points! in 13 minutes!!
brady da king now
BRADY!! PATRIOTS!! WHAT A COMEBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
man thank god I didn't watch it live I would have gotten a heart attack at that almost interception
how the hell did atlanta lose this holy shit. 25 points! in 13 minutes!!
brady da king now
Haloid1177
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14 points? So they gave up 21 points total to that offense? Doesn't seem too bad to me.
DeaconKnowledge
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Gata's bumbling a perfect example of my point. Only in Foxborough is giving up 21 points in 2 quarters of play a defense "doing its job". Brady fixes all drafting errors.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229862103&postcount=5975
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229862103&postcount=5975
Why'd they throw that interception
It's Wednesday mang..
I know but I couldn't stay up until 5am had to go to work. and after that didn't have time until now
Had to check the score first brah
Alligatorjandro
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I dont know why Russell Wilson did that
I do agree that they should have gotten legit JoyConBoyz for the commercial instead of those know nothing actors.Besides looking corny as F, those hipster actors jumping around like they're high on ecstasy makes it looks douchey to boot.
In Nintendos defense it is hard to book legit JCBs because we are busy as fuck with all the servicing.
Amazon says mine ships in exactly 3 weeks. So close now!
Russell doesn't throw interceptions. You can't throw passes after getting sacked.
Pretty sure they didn't wanna scare off potential buyers by only having 55 year olds in that commercial.
DeaconKnowledge
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To be fair to Asterisks fans (even though the last few posts prove they clearly don't deserve it) Falcons defense was gassed after a half of flying around the ball and Brady took advantage. Asterisks defense may not be elite (in fact, the definitely aren't) but they play sound assignment football for 4 quarters and the Falcons came out in the second half playing bitchass "don't lose" football on offense.
I mean, the Asterisks are clearly cheaters and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it came out that Belichick somehow cheated in that game but we have to call a spade a spade here.
I see no evidence that TCRS changed the channel
More of a comment on Asterisks fans' lifelonging ways. I mean, Bread a great guy and he was clearly trolling but the Asterisks may be the most lifelonging team in the league right now, and the only reason they definitively aren't is because Cowboys "fans" exist.
Ageism. DM is 75!
Foxboro.
yankeehater
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Good he was such a piece of shit this year.
Howie is cutting all of Roseman's shitty signings!
I will take this as you complimenting howie.
yankeehater
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HAHA this made me laugh big time. Wonder who they will throw insane money at this offseason? My guess is AJ Bouye is about to get paid.
I think he was making a pun on the band Ben Folds Five
Lane is definitely the future at LT, but Peters is better, and Lane is better at RT. I don't think Jeffery + Lane at LT and Big V at RT is better than JP at LT, Lane at RT, and another receiver that's cheaper. I'm just not sure Big V is ready to be a starter. He did alright, but he needed a lot of help, and that limited what the offense could do. I think eventually he could develop into a starter, but the offense was looking unstoppable when we had the original starting lineup and JP at LT + Lane at RT. Then once Lane got suspended things fell apart. I'd rather keep JP for one more year and get a lesser WR than target Jeffery but have the OL suffer
It's like if a Trumper taped the election night coverage and was finally just watching it today.
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